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195. I'm not in favor of freedumb,

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:46 PM

Oct 2013

which I define as the freedom to do stupid crap. Do I think it should be outlawed, and have laws passed to stop it? 'Course not. Doesn't mean I won't call it when I see it.

And imo playing football, at darn near any level, is freedumb. The possibility of injury, including the life-altering or life-ending variety is too high. I wouldn't do it, I wouldn't let my kids do it, I don't even like watching it. That leaves aside every other offensive thing associated with the "culture", from high school on up.

This from a fan from a very early age. I watched while my team had 13 straight losing seasons. I waited 37 years for them to win a Superbowl. I don't even know who the coach or quarterback is. I don't watch at all; there's no pleasure or entertainment value for me. It is just a day/evening/weekend wasted.

You don't have to agree and I couldn't care less if you did or didn't. Understand now?

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The NFL..... I think I am over it, are you? [View all] Bennyboy Oct 2013 OP

They're just our modern-day Gladiators. Atman Oct 2013 #1

Yes. There was a football/concussion thread a few weeks ago, and I mentioned Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #10

Actually there are a couple of rule changes. HappyMe Oct 2013 #13

It's too late. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #107

It's not a done deal yet. HappyMe Oct 2013 #114

I think it is. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #118

Soccer isn't bread and circuses? HappyMe Oct 2013 #121

Not as much blood. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #124

Soccer fans beat the living hell out of one another. HappyMe Oct 2013 #134

Perhaps I was too literal for you. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #136

You don't care so much that HappyMe Oct 2013 #138

Have you got a point? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #167

Have you got a point? HappyMe Oct 2013 #169

I made my point; yours seems to be that you don't like it. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #177

It seems to bother you that I don't agree with your opinion/point. HappyMe Oct 2013 #179

"Freedumb"? zappaman Oct 2013 #171

Nope. Just Freedumb. Why? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #176

I don't understand you use of "freedumb". zappaman Oct 2013 #183

I'm not in favor of freedumb, truebluegreen Oct 2013 #195

Take it from someone who watches the Premier League LittleBlue Oct 2013 #133

My sons played soccer for awhile. HappyMe Oct 2013 #135

The world's most boring sport... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #180

Don't even know what that is nor, truebluegreen Oct 2013 #181

I was referring to soccer. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #188

Concussion discussion nil desperandum Oct 2013 #17

You seem to be saying that there is simply nothing that can be done, and I don't buy that. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #36

Money nil desperandum Oct 2013 #128

The players have to deal with things like that The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #140

every other legal profession comes under OSHA nil desperandum Oct 2013 #172

I understand now, and you make perfect sense. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #154

sense nil desperandum Oct 2013 #165

I'm sure you'd hear the "but but but" from players too The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #35

Maybe we should have a national discussion on why our culture glorifies brutality & violence. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2013 #80

I'm guessing it would be a complicated answer The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #123

Amount of money they're paid isn't because of risk JonLP24 Oct 2013 #173

Wish I could quit my Aron Rodgers crush. elfin Oct 2013 #2

But it's still baseball season? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #3

I hear you pscot Oct 2013 #4

I'm over being lectured HappyMe Oct 2013 #5

+1! n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #14

Agree.. yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #19

You finally have a QB! zappaman Oct 2013 #21

I loved that game against yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #23

I picked up Keenan Allen the day of that game Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #24

Chiefs may be 5-0, but it's a soft 5-0 zappaman Oct 2013 #25

I think you're right. HappyMe Oct 2013 #34

tough crowd Lurker Deluxe Oct 2013 #87

yay! Touch Down Raaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiders! yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #88

That was a soft win Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #207

That game on Sunday yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #208

Best reply in this thread LittleBlue Oct 2013 #38

+1 LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #77

Interesting avatar and screen name-- truebluegreen Oct 2013 #113

Played it in elementary school, middle school and high school LordGlenconner Oct 2013 #126

What HappyMe said. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #146

The two hours of ads for a one hour game does it for me...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #6

no kidding nil desperandum Oct 2013 #27

If the brutal injuries aren't enough, there's always Howee, Jimmee, Terree and Mikee BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #7

I've been over it for awhile. City Lights Oct 2013 #8

Sports are our modern day opium of the people nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #9

Been over it all my life nil desperandum Oct 2013 #11

Should I start Chris Johnson or Andre Ellington as my flex? Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #12

I'm so over CJ2K. Ya might be better off finding a WR to put in your flex. Inkfreak Oct 2013 #75

I'm keeping him on the roster Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #83

No, on CJ for this week. Sissyk Oct 2013 #92

Rape culture in the NFL? Gun culture in the NFL? AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #15

All of society's ills HappyMe Oct 2013 #55

Bullshit. zappaman Oct 2013 #58

Crap. HappyMe Oct 2013 #69

You forgot smokers and pit bulls. WTF. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #166

And Olive Garden breast feeders. nt awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #185

I think we can all agree the NFL is not as bad as NASA... zappaman Oct 2013 #186

I still have a couple of those threads bookmarkered... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #189

So go watch golf. former9thward Oct 2013 #16

Watching golf is really dangerous jakeXT Oct 2013 #82

It would be dangerous for me. HappyMe Oct 2013 #98

I knew there was a reason I've never been on a golf course. former9thward Oct 2013 #120

As soon as my team wins the Superbowl maxsolomon Oct 2013 #18

LOL, yes because the players don't know it is dangerous! Silly post! nt Logical Oct 2013 #20

Who do you like this weekend in the OAK/KC game? zappaman Oct 2013 #22

KC is legit Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #26

I don't know about that.. Upton Oct 2013 #31

I agree zappaman Oct 2013 #33

Lemme rephrase Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #43

Defense is decent. zappaman Oct 2013 #48

But if you take out the Chiefs, they're 7-13! BlueCheese Oct 2013 #158

my OAKLAND RAIDERS OF COURSE!... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #97

I have to go with KC jeff47 Oct 2013 #116

Ever since the league invited Vick to return and play... LanternWaste Oct 2013 #28

I have not Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #56

As I'm a Dallas fan, I haven't really been missing anything anyway. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #68

You are a Cowboys fan, therefore, I cannot agree with you. Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #159

Don't throw snowballs at me! LanternWaste Oct 2013 #192

Vick already has spent time in prison, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #200

Give up football because of a concussions study? lol no LittleBlue Oct 2013 #29

LOL? HERVEPA Oct 2013 #59

Yes, lol LittleBlue Oct 2013 #62

Hilarious... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #101

I saw a short preview for this davidpdx Oct 2013 #199

Geez HERVEPA Oct 2013 #102

Or maybe we're just not tools LittleBlue Oct 2013 #108

I'm with you nil desperandum Oct 2013 #142

In this usage, "exploit" means to use a current medical consensus to invalidate an emotional and irr LanternWaste Oct 2013 #194

Rape culture? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #30

For every Aldon Smith, there is a Vernon Davis eissa Oct 2013 #32

As a big 49er fan I agree 100%.. Upton Oct 2013 #65

We heard about him when he was the "bad boy" eissa Oct 2013 #74

Exactly. HappyMe Oct 2013 #91

"love the guy?" Bennyboy Oct 2013 #94

He's 23 eissa Oct 2013 #96

just men acting like boys. n/t. okieinpain Oct 2013 #37

My Giants are soon to be 0-6 d_b Oct 2013 #39

I'm still shocked at their play this season. zappaman Oct 2013 #41

I've no idea what's going on d_b Oct 2013 #84

Look at the bright side LittleBlue Oct 2013 #45

Clowney seems to be doing his level best to avoid even being a first-round pick KamaAina Oct 2013 #73

I sure hope so! LittleBlue Oct 2013 #81

My Bears needed a break ballabosh Oct 2013 #196

Just be thankful that the Giants at least won 2 SBs recently; Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #201

I wish we had a pro NFL team here in Jacksonville NightWatcher Oct 2013 #40

LOL! zappaman Oct 2013 #42

my friend thinks they're sucking on purpose so the city wont mind when they move to London NightWatcher Oct 2013 #47

I don't think there will be a London team. zappaman Oct 2013 #53

Jags aren't going anywhere. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #127

And you're facing Manning this Sunday eissa Oct 2013 #44

28 point spread as of yesterday NightWatcher Oct 2013 #51

You would take Denver or Jax? zappaman Oct 2013 #57

I'd take Jax and 28 points NightWatcher Oct 2013 #70

I'd take it as well ... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2013 #100

Peyton Manning's only as good as his neck. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #129

Well, since I'm against him on Fantasy this week..... eissa Oct 2013 #131

PM has basically been Denver's entire team. Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #203

They'll be playing their home games in London soon Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #46

They're only 28 point underdogs to the Broncos this weekend.. Upton Oct 2013 #60

I like college football better. Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #49

Well..the same handwringers who don't think much of the NFL.. Upton Oct 2013 #71

Either that Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #204

never my bag datasuspect Oct 2013 #50

everyone needs to watch this.... League Of Denial Bennyboy Oct 2013 #52

^^^ THIS ^^^ Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #67

This is just like the 20s and 30s when the Hollywood big studios ran the town Warpy Oct 2013 #54

Interesting choice of words - HappyMe Oct 2013 #79

Football promotes a primative ideal of mascualinity. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #119

I am a former long suffering Detroit Lion and current Tampa Bay Bucs Fan. Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #61

WTF happened to Freeman? zappaman Oct 2013 #64

We'll see think Oct 2013 #106

He'll be OK. n/t Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #143

Put yourself in his place. Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #141

Attendance is down since 2007 FarCenter Oct 2013 #63

I'll be in section 3 on Sunday. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #66

I'll be in 201 Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #78

We're going in December eissa Oct 2013 #93

I live in Minnesota, where we don't really have an NFL team. MineralMan Oct 2013 #72

But I thought it was being paid for with "electronic pulltabs". legcramp Oct 2013 #125

Nah. That trick didn't work. MineralMan Oct 2013 #130

I thought that Gov Dayton, a progressiive DFL'er, was behind the push for the legcramp Oct 2013 #145

That was a big disappointment for me. MineralMan Oct 2013 #148

Man, my team hasn't won a game this year and I'm still invested in it. n/t reflection Oct 2013 #76

did you onethatcares Oct 2013 #139

Nah, I come from a non-NFL city reflection Oct 2013 #151

tampa bay had that cute little gizmo onethatcares Oct 2013 #160

We were "done" with MOST professional sports a long time ago SoCalDem Oct 2013 #85

I was watching frontline recently, and they mentioned even injuries to the brain from a normal game jakeXT Oct 2013 #86

seeing brain deterioration in HS and college now... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #90

I love to watch football. Sissyk Oct 2013 #89

I was never really a fan, but Vick's return switched me to active disliking. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #95

The Seahawks are looking fantastic this year. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #99

I know as a bleeding-heart liberal I shouldn't say this, but eissa Oct 2013 #109

He does have a big mouth. I usually don't watch it when he gives interviews. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #144

Sorry, I can't. I'm a Ravens fan. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #103

Hey, thanks for Boldin eissa Oct 2013 #105

You're welcome. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #110

LOL! Ok, I had that coming :-) eom eissa Oct 2013 #111

Tis okay. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #112

Which one?! eissa Oct 2013 #115

Exactly. :) Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #117

My Dad took me to Raider Games at the Age of 3 yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #122

Stop putting your stands right on top of the outfield! BlueCheese Oct 2013 #163

Good luck with that... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #168

Obviously you did not watch Frontline a few days ago. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2013 #104

If I stopped watching/enjoying/doing things because of bad people... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #132

If you stopped watching/enjoying/doing things because of bad people... ElboRuum Oct 2013 #153

Yup, says the girl who has never drank any beer more refined ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #170

i am a-ok w/ radical changes. back to leather helmets and less padding. RUGBY?? pansypoo53219 Oct 2013 #137

I never was into it in the first place. calimary Oct 2013 #147

People pay to watch them do it The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #156

Because they are ruining the game by taking out the defense, yes. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #149

Nope. ElboRuum Oct 2013 #150

I think football should be removed from schools, including universities. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #152

Pre teen football=Child abuse thread from way back.... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #155

It's not child abuse. HappyMe Oct 2013 #161

+100! zappaman Oct 2013 #164

abuse is abuse my friend...... semantics aside.... Bennyboy Oct 2013 #178

No, it does not describe what happens in sports. HappyMe Oct 2013 #187

The injuries have driven me away. BlueCheese Oct 2013 #157

What's I'm really over is paying for new stadiums BainsBane Oct 2013 #162

^^^This^^^ Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #205

Gave up on it years ago, it's pure commercialism, no sport remains Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #174

Fuck the NFL, I gave it up a long time ago quinnox Oct 2013 #175

I haven't really paid much attention since the Jim Kiick/Larry Csonka/Mercury Morris days Buns_of_Fire Oct 2013 #182

Watching grown men run around and give each other TBIs and cheer because they "represent" your city? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #184

Been over it. The Browns have been trotting out rapist Jim Brown for decades. we can do it Oct 2013 #190

I'd prefer Rollerball BKH70041 Oct 2013 #191

Stupid ass penalties to protect QBs and favor the passing game tabasco Oct 2013 #193

Never been into it. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #197

NFL North Carolina Knigh Oct 2013 #198

The NFL and NCAAF Go Vols Oct 2013 #202

I've never understood the appeal of American Football in general cristianmarie533 Oct 2013 #206

Competitive sports is close to brainwashing, imo Shankapotomus Oct 2013 #209

I like how you say you're over the NFL and then refer to "your team" Orrex Oct 2013 #210