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Pretzel_Warrior

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54. and then there is the opposite case

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Fri Oct 11, 2013, 05:03 PM

Oct 2013

as you so admirably demonstrate time and again.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] lostincalifornia Oct 2013 OP

I hate to say this, but Rex Oct 2013 #1

"I hate to say this" is the new equivalent of "honest question". nt CJCRANE Oct 2013 #2

very good point Phentex Oct 2013 #12

Is that like starting with, "I'm not racist, but..." ? n/t Ian David Oct 2013 #65

I think so. Or, "to tell you the truth..." Rex Oct 2013 #67

Can you please point out where, *exactly*, the words "I hate to say this" appear in this title, or Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #134

It was in the original thread that started this thread, I know sounds complex. Rex Oct 2013 #137

I see now... thank you, Rex... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #163

Very welcome. I have VA to fall back on, but will be looking into Rex Oct 2013 #173

Youve never seen how threads like this go, huh? bunnies Oct 2013 #3

Right...? Agschmid Oct 2013 #10

Post the information we need to evaluate the claim. You can see that info here... stevenleser Oct 2013 #4

That is kind of creepy, Steve. morningfog Oct 2013 #182

Oh please, spare me the faux drama. Virtually no one uses their real names here. stevenleser Oct 2013 #191

You need a thick skin to post in any online community these days. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #5

Good advice, CaliforniaPeggy. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #22

Of course you do....why am I not surprised by that statement? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #85

Do I know you? You just demonstrated the point being made here sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #172

they are not coming asking for help...they come with their hair on fire....demanding we recognize VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #174

Agreed. The way people jump down the throat of others LittleBlue Oct 2013 #143

Its "brought" with an air of superiority...."SEE I told you so..." VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #175

This forum wants proof of claims, mzmolly Oct 2013 #188

Welcome to the new and improved DU. Mika Oct 2013 #6

DU was like this when I joined back in '02. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #14

I agree. Rex Oct 2013 #19

Yep, I've been run off a few times. MoonRiver Oct 2013 #207

+1000 notadmblnd Oct 2013 #56

Could also be because some of us longtimers have seen an awful lot of manipulation by calimary Oct 2013 #92

Yep, seemed like standard DU snark to me. redqueen Oct 2013 #123

I'm still relatively new - mostly read and not post a lot meadowlark5 Oct 2013 #125

Wow, I love that troll smilie. pamela Oct 2013 #186

Not the way I remember it. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #176

That's how I remember it also. Newbies were welcomed and not attacked sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #183

There are 1000s of DUers: some are welcoming, some aloof, some aggressive. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #194

Well said. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #211

You are being disingenuous... I called your friend, not you, a liar. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #7

Things get a little testy around here sometimes Turbineguy Oct 2013 #8

It is a message board. Sometimes hot button topics IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #9

no one is implying you are a liar. just that you left a lot of information out initially Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #11

P.S. what does "lostinCalifornia" username mean? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13

You have to have a thick skin to post here if B2G Oct 2013 #15

Two things: One) Overwhelmingly, the ACA is improving the lot of low income people re: coverage Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #16

No one could have predicted that the SCOTUS and Republican states would screw the poor Fumesucker Oct 2013 #25

Absolutely. The red states that are petulantly holding out on medicaid expansion.. it's inexcusable. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #32

I'm a little disappointed in you Fumesucker Oct 2013 #55

Oh, right. Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #129

Nope, DU hasn't been a refuge from right wing thought since at least Jan 21, 2009 Fumesucker Oct 2013 #17

but i had just dealt with you telling us we needed to allow repugs a cooling off period cause they seabeyond Oct 2013 #18

Here's the problem... whttevrr Oct 2013 #20

no she said exceeds questionseverything Oct 2013 #177

Have you been here long enough to know what a GBCW post is? lpbk2713 Oct 2013 #21

"I know a dead parrot when I see one…" regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #33

...if you hadn't nailed 'em to 'is perch 'e'd be pushin' up the daisies!" truebluegreen Oct 2013 #90

'E's pinin' for the fjords FloridaJudy Oct 2013 #212

we need information... handmade34 Oct 2013 #23

I hate to say this, but a friend told me geek tragedy Oct 2013 #24

. Rex Oct 2013 #63

... BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #105

LOL Scurrilous Oct 2013 #200

We get a lot of trolls spewing incorrect information here. Lex Oct 2013 #26

You've been here 2 weeks... SidDithers Oct 2013 #27

Consider yourself lucky NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #28

I know, right...? whttevrr Oct 2013 #31

I know I'm being entirely too reasonable when I get no replies. moriah Oct 2013 #130

For all our saying that we are better people... Lancero Oct 2013 #29

Oh, looky. Another one DU Bashing. bunnies Oct 2013 #35

And ANOTHER low-count poster -- what a surprise… regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #38

Thank you... Lancero Oct 2013 #40

Blinded by our love of Obamacare? Rex Oct 2013 #45

I know, dead giveaway eShirl Oct 2013 #52

I guess it is a good thing we have the ACA! Rex Oct 2013 #59

bahaha. I love it when REPUBES are losing. The trolls activate. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #48

And your definition of troll is? Lancero Oct 2013 #62

Who is this "we" you speak of? eShirl Oct 2013 #49

Mouse in pocket? Rex Oct 2013 #60

The majority of people in this thread. Lancero Oct 2013 #64

What about the... whttevrr Oct 2013 #66

And this justifies... Lancero Oct 2013 #71

What insults? whttevrr Oct 2013 #78

Selective reading skills. Rex Oct 2013 #81

Same to you n/t Lancero Oct 2013 #83

No I actually asked if the OP lived in a red state. Rex Oct 2013 #87

Care to point out Lancero Oct 2013 #93

You came in here swinging at everyone that called out the OP Rex Oct 2013 #97

Still can't point out where, specifically, I insulted a member. Lancero Oct 2013 #101

Like you, I could care less. Rex Oct 2013 #103

Still waiting for you to point out where I insulted a member. Lancero Oct 2013 #109

Sure it does, keep it up. Rex Oct 2013 #110

Care to, finally, point out where I insulted a member? Lancero Oct 2013 #114

As long as you doubt that you did. Rex Oct 2013 #117

Myself? Lancero Oct 2013 #121

Because you should be nice to yourself, did you forget your own premise? Rex Oct 2013 #122

I still don't see where I insulted anyone, or even myself. Lancero Oct 2013 #124

You said I am a bad, evil, care-less person, so no. Rex Oct 2013 #126

Context much? Lancero Oct 2013 #131

you have the math wrong questionseverything Oct 2013 #178

you and other low-post count boy seem to be working well together Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #68

Also what about the facts presented to the OP that debunk their narrative? Rex Oct 2013 #75

Thanks... Lancero Oct 2013 #76

You keep saying that, yet seem to not know what that saying means. Rex Oct 2013 #77

Must I explain? Lancero Oct 2013 #80

Yet you still do not acknowledge that the OP posted bogus information Rex Oct 2013 #84

I'm not taking into account other threads... Lancero Oct 2013 #88

Oh so you don't have any idea what this is all about. Rex Oct 2013 #91

Does a person need a reason... Lancero Oct 2013 #96

Well if you want to be like the GOP and be clueless what is going Rex Oct 2013 #100

I know enough. Lancero Oct 2013 #104

You seem totally clueless and now you don't care at all. Rex Oct 2013 #106

See above. Lancero Oct 2013 #112

If you say so, I personally doubt it. Rex Oct 2013 #113

Pot, meet kettle. nt FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #135

Already went through this with Rex... Lancero Oct 2013 #136

Two children, arguing for the sake of arguing. FLyellowdog Oct 2013 #139

If someone says I did something... Lancero Oct 2013 #140

If you can answer #73, then I will tell you. Rex Oct 2013 #142

... Lancero Oct 2013 #145

So that is a no. Rex Oct 2013 #148

I say again... Lancero Oct 2013 #150

Of course you do, you have nothing left in the tank. Rex Oct 2013 #151

I've plenty left in the tank. Lancero Oct 2013 #153

Nothing left eh? You are running on fumes. Rex Oct 2013 #154

What narriative? Lancero Oct 2013 #158

And all I am asking is that you answer #73. Rex Oct 2013 #161

So you thought a third child was needed in this fight? Rex Oct 2013 #159

Why would you ignore post after post asking why said OP Rex Oct 2013 #73

Straw man alert---- so leave DU if it bothers u so much TeamPooka Oct 2013 #181

We're simply able to do the math. A young man making more than $150,000 can pay DevonRex Oct 2013 #53

Btw, that's "toe" the party line... truebluegreen Oct 2013 #94

Who's we? Do you have a squirrel in your pocket? MADem Oct 2013 #118

. Squinch Oct 2013 #120

funny how you just joined and keep talking about "we" noiretextatique Oct 2013 #169

see lost... this would be the newbie post everyone jumps on, just like this. dont feel bad, lost. seabeyond Oct 2013 #206

I have not read your ACA threads Southside Oct 2013 #30

Welcome to DU. bunnies Oct 2013 #42

I second that Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #51

Thank you for welcoming me. Southside Oct 2013 #70

that was a bizarre example Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #82

It's more about the host controlling content Southside Oct 2013 #128

Does seem like a strange ad for them to run. bunnies Oct 2013 #99

Oh there is an alert button. Southside Oct 2013 #133

There is also a very useful button called "trash thread" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #146

Alert, trash thread, ignore Southside Oct 2013 #155

This is excellent advice. bunnies Oct 2013 #164

Your response was fine by me. bunnies Oct 2013 #162

Will do Southside Oct 2013 #179

Probably because MSNBC is not Fox News of the left, truebluegreen Oct 2013 #102

Nothing wrong with including the last 4 numbers Trekologer Oct 2013 #187

Haha...ok astroturfer , thanks Southside Oct 2013 #189

I hate to say this but someone making 90k+ a year Whisp Oct 2013 #34

90k is the cut off for subsidy whttevrr Oct 2013 #41

hey, good abacus you have there! Whisp Oct 2013 #44

OK, whew... whttevrr Oct 2013 #89

This an internet chat room. Don't take it this seriously. leeroysphitz Oct 2013 #36

There's never a good excuse for meanness, lack of compassion. Voice for Peace Oct 2013 #37

There is a faction here that hates the left, and will swarm in attack Zorra Oct 2013 #39

I think it was more about the math... whttevrr Oct 2013 #43

I'm not sure they 'hate' the left. It's probably fear leftstreet Oct 2013 #47

and then there is the opposite case Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #54

There's an obvious difference between actual criticism from the left and trolling Hippo_Tron Oct 2013 #69

This post nails it. Broward Oct 2013 #95

No... it was the math. whttevrr Oct 2013 #111

Um, there are swarms here who think Obama is the left? truebluegreen Oct 2013 #108

Or could it have been that the poster's friend made 180000 per year, and was having Squinch Oct 2013 #119

Somebody needs a hug.... c'mere you Ellipsis Oct 2013 #46

Right or wrong, Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #50

Boy, that's the truth!! CountAllVotes Oct 2013 #61

You are posting stuff which flies in the face of truth. I can't get any subsidy under the ACA bluestate10 Oct 2013 #57

Absolutely, I expected same as you... ellenrr Oct 2013 #58

Buh bye.... Rowdyboy Oct 2013 #72

I think you need more information about your friend before you decide that they are being screwed... luvspeas Oct 2013 #74

And as was pointed out repeatedly intaglio Oct 2013 #79

That's nice. The Midway Rebel Oct 2013 #86

What's your point? Why are you starting a new thread All About You? MADem Oct 2013 #98

send your friend here before you go. Or tell him to go to heathcare.gov or call them. Sunlei Oct 2013 #107

I guess the friend makes 180k a year, but doesn't have a PC or internet. Rex Oct 2013 #115

Hmm looking at your other post, you have a friend making 94k a year Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #116

People are complaining about their rates going up, but then we see they're getting gollygee Oct 2013 #127

90k is wealthy? questionseverything Oct 2013 #180

Well gollygee Oct 2013 #185

Don't go away mad. displacedtexan Oct 2013 #132

Liberal? Progressive? Yeah, right. Most of them aren't much to the left of William F Buckley. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #138

welcome to DU TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #141

I dunno...Freeperville is more obnoxious CJCRANE Oct 2013 #147

Kinda a strange thing to say...I agree I would think Rex Oct 2013 #157

not to their fellow members TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #160

That seems worse to me... CJCRANE Oct 2013 #192

I love robust debate, but stupidity, and trolls... not so much. ellenrr Oct 2013 #196

"rough debate"? TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #198

I never make personal swipes at other DUers. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #199

baloney TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #201

Your posts represent the very thing you rail against. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #203

+ ellenrr Oct 2013 #193

there are a few here who really dislike having their world view disrupted DrDan Oct 2013 #144

"Ignore" is your friend 1000words Oct 2013 #149

waahhh CBGLuthier Oct 2013 #152

I live in a high income state. The information I will post doesn't apply to me. I purposely bluestate10 Oct 2013 #156

My sister Pam died because she didn't have health insurance melody Oct 2013 #165

^This! The Midway Rebel Oct 2013 #170

Thanks for the perspective and sorry about your sister and friend. grantcart Oct 2013 #209

What's this? A callout thread? Roland99 Oct 2013 #166

OOO Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #167

don't let the door hitya on the way out Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #168

Your post was terrible Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #171

Funny, I've been here since 2004 and to the best of my recollection... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #184

The site reflects LWolf Oct 2013 #190

Welcome to the internet. n/t eShirl Oct 2013 #195

Why don't you tell us Caretha Oct 2013 #197

META!!! Iggo Oct 2013 #202

I have been treated less than kindly by some here too. Yet I stuck it out. There are some that appleannie1 Oct 2013 #204

Then u haven't been on long enough OR u r glowing Oct 2013 #205

Hard to have compassion for.. Notafraidtoo Oct 2013 #208

Do you have proof that their rates are going up? seattle15 Oct 2013 #210