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In reply to the discussion: Great News! Alzheimer's breakthrough hailed as 'turning point' [View all]Orrex
(67,370 posts)145. Nope.
First, you complained about no studies.
Then people posted about studies.
So you raised the bar and said they had to be longitudinal studies.
Then people posted about longitudinal studies.
But you figured you could shoot it down by claiming that they weren't very big longitudinal studies.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you're either flat-out lying or else entirely incorrect.
Then people posted about studies.
So you raised the bar and said they had to be longitudinal studies.
Then people posted about longitudinal studies.
But you figured you could shoot it down by claiming that they weren't very big longitudinal studies.
Here's Duer 157099's Reply #63: "Two words: twin studies"
In my reply #65 I asked if they were largescale longitudinal studies. You assert that I was moving the goalposts, but that's simply not the case. Rather than changing the requirements as you claim, I set the standard in a single subject line. How can you not see this?
Your own reply #120 stated "Yes, longitudinal studies, a famous one being with nuns."
So you met half of the clearly stated criteria, and then you complain that I changed my requirements? Bullshit. Further, 678 participants is not a largescale study. It's a preposterously tiny sample, and in this case a sample entirely of women with nearly identical diet and lifestyle.
That's simply not adequate for making assertions about the best course of action for the population as a whole.
In the meantime, "no shit", exercise and diet do help lots of people.
Again, no shit, and now you're using a straw man. At no time have I ever asserted that exercise and diet don't help lots of people. Instead, I have asserted--correctly--that diet and exercise do not verifiably delay, prevent, or ameliorate the onset of Alzheimer's. By broadening the assertion from "people with Alzheimer's" to "lots of people," you are positing an argument that I have not made.
Why should I defend your own argument for you?
Seems like analysis paralysis to me.
Seems like you don't know what you're talking about. You certainly don't understand what I'm talking about, or at least you're not replying to it.Edit history
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something like this cannot be posted too often. people could have missed the other post, you know.
niyad
Oct 2013
#45
Coconut oil? What blather is that? And did you read the bleeding article? No you
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#8
Are you upset that some ppl use diet and exercise instead of prescription drugs to remain healthy?
tridim
Oct 2013
#34
So you prescribe firing all scientists as a cure for "Big pharma"? Wow.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#81
Writing clearly is a great way to making successful posts. I recommend you try it. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#86
So, getting paid is now evil in your book. You work for free. Very kind of you. Thank you. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#80
Ok, say it then. You think Big Pharma is NOT evil. If you think they are "wonderful", you can too.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#96
You are. Your post 43: "Actually, big pharma is scientists." You equate them.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#88
Right. Equating them is not making that distinction. You need to write such distinctions clearly.nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#97
You used the word "is" which is equating them. Your choice of word. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#137
Even better than a drug, they might find dietary items that would fight it.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#15
I should have used the word "prevent", consistent with notion of activities that prevent it listed.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#27
Not sure if "that claim" refers to the OP or my post, but here is some information
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#33
Your strawman. Only you are claiming anyone is claiming foods "cure" a brain disease. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#100
Or you could go read the first post I responded to, which claimed coconut oil was a cure. (nt)
jeff47
Oct 2013
#128
That post #7 never mentions "cure". You are the only one talking about a cure. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#136
It presents it as a treatment in place of the one in the OP. That means "cure". (nt)
jeff47
Oct 2013
#139
Only you would think that "treatment" means "cure" or that prevention means "cure".
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#141
You attack a non exist antecedent and claim therefore the science is junk.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#103
Your post has binary thinking again & you confuse adding an additional means with replacing one. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#135
See my post 33. Diet, exercise, & stimulation are very effective & can slow progression of the
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#36
1) Parkinsons is not dementia. 2) Diet won't help everybody but it will help many.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#104
You are free to stop exercising and sit on a couch watching TV with bags of chips if you want to.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#123
I posted meaningfully supportive references about exercise early in the thread.
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#140
I think the only benefit of that would b its semi-meditative aspect, slightly helpful to gen. health
Bernardo de La Paz
Oct 2013
#121
I am forever bemoaning the fact that virtually no money is spent to try to figure out
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#54
I wonder if Michael Fox could use his celebrity status to be part of a controlled trial.
randome
Oct 2013
#57