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Savannahmann

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30. World War 1 began in 1914.

Reply to hooverville29 (Original post)

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:39 AM

Oct 2013

By 1915 both sides were so invested in victory, financially and politically, there was no way to achieve President Wilson's stated goal of peace without victory. As was demonstrated in Russia, Germany, and Austria, defeat came with massive political change.

The RW is stuck. Without something to point to as a victory, even some token, the elected will face and probably lose to a primary challenger. Then even more extreme RW nuts will be in Congress for the last two years of President Obama second term. So even by winning, we face a potential loss.

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Nobody wants to accept some pain in exchange for other side accepting pain. Everybody wants victory [View all] hooverville29 Oct 2013 OP

Our side has done nothing but compromise from the beginning with nothing in return. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #1

Well, they've dropped the Obamacare defunding nonsense. What's the next thing they should change hooverville29 Oct 2013 #5

That was not a concession since they had no right to demand it... Deep13 Oct 2013 #7

Bingo. And they didn't drop it to make a concession, anyway. Fridays Child Oct 2013 #24

it's the law. Old and In the Way Oct 2013 #28

don't you think it is about time for Dems to stand firm for what is actually right for the people? NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #2

False Equivalence. NEXT!!! nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #3

False equivalency. Deep13 Oct 2013 #4

I agree Here Oct 2013 #6

It's unfortunate that delusional sociopaths have any say whatsoever. Deep13 Oct 2013 #8

Hello welcome to DU. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #18

Thanks Here Oct 2013 #19

Your welcome. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #21

And can you explain just what "pain" the Rs or their super-elite donors have had to endure? Deep13 Oct 2013 #9

The weathiest 1%... RichGirl Oct 2013 #14

Fuck that shit. No rewards for extortion. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #10

I don't like pain. It hurts! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #11

We should cut the baby in half, so that both sides can have some stuff. That would be fair. enki23 Oct 2013 #12

Rolling over for hijackers is disaster TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #13

Exactly. It's time we give the teabaggers a choice. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #15

B.S, its repigs who refuse 'pain,' elleng Oct 2013 #16

BTW.... RichGirl Oct 2013 #17

Shoveling crap out for a post. There is only one party that is using extortion, terrorism Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #20

We've been accepting pain for a long time. Now it's time to reap the reward. So fuck that. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #22

Sorry, but that is more of the "both sides do it" nonsense. PSPS Oct 2013 #23

Wrong. Not One Inch. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #25

No. This is saying "No govt. by Constitutional Crisis" RainDog Oct 2013 #26

Lincoln should have freed half the slaves? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #27

When I was a little girl, my parents owned a 3000 square foot two-story home melody Oct 2013 #29

World War 1 began in 1914. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #30

LOSER'S MFM008 Oct 2013 #31

Nice try hootinholler Oct 2013 #32

+1000 pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #34

LOL gollygee Oct 2013 #33