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krispos42

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10. He discovered something unknown to a major center of civilization and learning

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 08:58 AM

Oct 2013

Of course, since he was self-taught in his education he thought Asia was thousands of miles closer to Europe than the educated Europeans. But he was wrong enough that he did find land exactly where he expected to find it, only it wasn't Asia he found, it was a previously-unknown-to-Europe continent.

The other educated people of his time were correct; Asia's eastern coast was thousands of miles west of where Columbus thought it was.

The person that discovers something and brings it to the attention of the world is the person that gets credit for "discovering" it.

Having said that, Columbus was a sociopathic, sadistic murderer. Hell, when the SPANISH of 1500 arrest somebody for unusual cruelty, you know something especially rancid is going on.

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Columbus didn't "Discover" anything. Seriously. The NA Continent was already discovered. [View all] dballance Oct 2013 OP

One could argue the point Revanchist Oct 2013 #1

I Think It's Insulting to the Indigenous Peoples to say "Discovered" the way it's said now. dballance Oct 2013 #2

But you can't limit that philosophy to just the Americas Revanchist Oct 2013 #3

It's an artifact of eurocentric history Scootaloo Oct 2013 #5

Isn't it time we (US) dropped the Eurocentric mindset after all these centuries? eShirl Oct 2013 #7

Next you'll claim that Coronado didn't discover the Grand Canyon JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2013 #4

Coronado did not visit the Grand Canyon. He went to Zuni and turned east to the Rio Grande pueblos. Coyotl Oct 2013 #12

He took a left at Albuquerque itsrobert Oct 2013 #29

He went straight at Albuquerque, Coyotl Oct 2013 #31

why is it even still a holiday? ffs eShirl Oct 2013 #6

Columbus got taken back to Spain in chains... backscatter712 Oct 2013 #8

he reported back to the dominant civilization on the planet the existence of another continent CBGLuthier Oct 2013 #9

Spain was anything but the dominant civilization on the planet. Spain was totally uncivil. Coyotl Oct 2013 #13

He discovered something unknown to a major center of civilization and learning krispos42 Oct 2013 #10

What Columbus "discovered" was ALREADY a major center of civilization and learning. dballance Oct 2013 #15

Wha....?! Really?!?! Richardo Oct 2013 #11

Exactly. Asians "discovered" North America thousands of years before Columbus and pampango Oct 2013 #14

So immigants have been intruding into European land for millennia? Figures! Orrex Oct 2013 #17

Damn immigrants. They've been intruding on "our" land since before "we" even discovered it. pampango Oct 2013 #18

No job is done until the paperwork is complete. FarCenter Oct 2013 #16

Believe me, as a Daughter of the LAKOTA the lies never get past my Elementary School grandchildren.. Tikki Oct 2013 #19

One good thing is we can actually have this discussion now. dballance Oct 2013 #23

Maybe it's because we live in a Liberal Blue Coast State, but none of our sons' teachers.. Tikki Oct 2013 #25

Yeh, time to stop perpetuating this lie, and stop celebrating the start of the systematic genocide Zorra Oct 2013 #20

My prediction is that we will find evidence of waves of immigrants to the Americas Taverner Oct 2013 #21

Yep, you're likely correct. dballance Oct 2013 #24

And the polynesians REALLY had perfected sea travel Taverner Oct 2013 #27

Don't forget the anachronites cvoogt Oct 2013 #30

He was just a worthless rat then. Ya, ok. n/t miyazaki Oct 2013 #22

Well, yep. A self-centered, profiteer with no empathy for other humans. So Yes. dballance Oct 2013 #26

History gave him more than his due, that's all... Tikki Oct 2013 #28