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118. From the north...always lived in the north....but visited...

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:42 PM

Oct 2013

Have driven through the South many times; and I will admit, I stereo-type the red-neck country. But I'll also readily admit some of my most respected friends I have, because I now reside in Mexico in a expatriate community, are those that have endured a progressive view in the South. From Texas, Arkansas, Virginia, Georgia....and I have the greatest of respect for those good folks; and I know there are millions more just like them.

It's tough when you are surrounded by real red necks and dixie flag waving fools, and I'll give you that. I don't know how I would have turned out, had I been born and raised there. I'm as progressive as hell now, and calling me a socialist is no insult. I don't accept ANY label 100%, but I don't blow off any label neither.

I tip my hat to YOU! A liberal progressive in the South has had to struggle a damn might harder than those of us surrounded by like-minded folks up here in the North.

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I'm from the south. [View all] rrneck Oct 2013 OP

I'm sorry, this just doesn't make much sense to me cali Oct 2013 #1

I'm with you, but I still live in the south TxDemChem Oct 2013 #4

If you read the post carefully, you swiftly discern cali Oct 2013 #10

Maybe we need to adjust our "plumage" to make sense of it. bunnies Oct 2013 #17

er, um, yes. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #19

what you just wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out in my cali Oct 2013 #24

what you just wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out in my... AlbertCat Oct 2013 #63

I can parse. cali Oct 2013 #74

What on earth do you think one blogger is evidence of? AlbertCat Oct 2013 #80

Do you see posts on DU Aerows Oct 2013 #117

What are you saying Hutzpa Oct 2013 #156

My point is that on DU Aerows Oct 2013 #162

Have you ever seen me post anything like that? No and you never will cali Oct 2013 #330

I condemn the South because I lived there for some years and I know southerners. Granted JDPriestly Oct 2013 #31

I condemn the South because it sends characters like Ted Cruz and Lindsay Graham, etc. to Congress. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #59

The South also sent John Lewis and Alan Grayson to congress. And I think you'll find a lot of Erose999 Oct 2013 #78

I live in MS Aerows Oct 2013 #122

I condemn California because Sissyk Oct 2013 #69

California also has 38 million people coldmountain Oct 2013 #165

So over 80 hate groups Sissyk Oct 2013 #181

Yeah, and don't forget that tiny little state of New Jersey, with its 51 hate groups. That whole Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #230

Per capita Tennessee has 5 times as many hate groups as California and you brag coldmountain Oct 2013 #233

Yeah, that's what the other exploding heads went on about, too.. per capita,, blah blah blah.. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #267

How is "per capita" not "real numbers"? cui bono Oct 2013 #352

What then is precise per capita percentage from which we may extrapolate LanternWaste Oct 2013 #356

You are correct. Sissyk Oct 2013 #236

Thank you, Sissyk :-) Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #269

We also had Washington, dgibby Oct 2013 #89

Unlike dgibby Oct 2013 #224

As I said, I lived in the South for some years, was educated there. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #298

I grew up in Virginia, dgibby Oct 2013 #302

As someone who went to high school with Terry... TheOther95Percent Oct 2013 #333

You're welcome. dgibby Oct 2013 #350

You must have been a hermit then. Texasgal Oct 2013 #235

I've heard good things about Austin and have a friend there. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #299

Didn't get out much, did you? cordelia Oct 2013 #244

I'm not claiming that a utopia exists. But Vitter and Sessions, please! JDPriestly Oct 2013 #297

"They haven't changed," "I condemn the South." The seed bed of prejudice. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #268

I'll believe that they have changed when Don Siegelman gets out of prison and is sitting in the JDPriestly Oct 2013 #296

Yea, the South elects people like Bachmann, Santorum, Walker.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #294

"USED to be" is key here eridani Oct 2013 #304

Yeah, it starts off good . . . brush Oct 2013 #327

It starts off good because rrneck Oct 2013 #334

Glad to have you aboard . . . brush Oct 2013 #343

Hey, I'm a liberal. rrneck Oct 2013 #344

I'm not getting it either. PotatoChip Oct 2013 #8

I'm an ex-Southerner too and find the OP to be ridiculous. dballance Oct 2013 #23

I don't know how it is where you are rrneck Oct 2013 #33

So liberals aren't allowed to LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #45

We're not allowed to rrneck Oct 2013 #51

Because I have a 401K and the fund manage invests in something I don't like AAO Oct 2013 #60

Well, that and because you don't live in the South, according to the OP. Squinch Oct 2013 #99

I didn't say it was easy. rrneck Oct 2013 #123

bunch of hippies old and 2nd and even 3rd generation cali Oct 2013 #52

I like logic too. rrneck Oct 2013 #72

I'm speaking of applying logic to whatever case someone is trying to make cali Oct 2013 #96

Liberals are human and humans aren't perfect. rrneck Oct 2013 #111

Cali, Yes, it seems to me as well that... nikto Oct 2013 #183

And how does it matter? What is constructive about highlighting those "distinctions?" Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #278

Oh, I don't know... nikto Oct 2013 #300

Well, yes you do. What is the purpose of your assertions? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #301

On 2nd thought, perhaps not.. nikto Oct 2013 #374

What's wrong with liberal celebrities? coldmountain Oct 2013 #171

Nothing. rrneck Oct 2013 #194

Here is some meat I can chew on.... Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #360

There isn't really a specific list of do's and don'ts. rrneck Oct 2013 #361

I've lived in the South all of my life Aerows Oct 2013 #35

We do continue trying. kentauros Oct 2013 #79

In order for southern liberals to be respected here on DU, we Jamastiene Oct 2013 #92

That sucks about your voting methods being changed. kentauros Oct 2013 #105

I wish our voting laws were standard nationwide. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #140

I agree. kentauros Oct 2013 #147

I hate to say it Aerows Oct 2013 #112

If it is the same post I remember, it was Hurricane Earl and Jamastiene Oct 2013 #145

I'm doing my best to change hearts and minds here Aerows Oct 2013 #151

Ah yes, the famous magic wand. I think Obama has it & isn't sharing... Hekate Oct 2013 #184

Hear hear! nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #258

My favorite Aerows Oct 2013 #115

I've seen those same posts and it's made me ill, too. kentauros Oct 2013 #134

This was recently Aerows Oct 2013 #153

I've been told, today even, that it's all wishful thinking, kentauros Oct 2013 #163

I know Aerows Oct 2013 #166

I remember too, trying to get people to understand kentauros Oct 2013 #173

I remember all too well Aerows Oct 2013 #177

The most I've gone is a week, after Alicia in 1983. kentauros Oct 2013 #186

There are a lot of Southerners on DU. dgibby Oct 2013 #192

I wish I *couldn't* agree Aerows Oct 2013 #197

**** NCarolinawoman Oct 2013 #241

What gets me is the condemnation comes without any stated purpose... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #275

Some people NEED to point fingers. bvar22 Oct 2013 #336

Better to talk with people than to point fingers at them. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #368

You must be very strong nikto Oct 2013 #167

It does Aerows Oct 2013 #172

You must have... nikto Oct 2013 #204

Yeah, I think we have to go back to trying to win ALL seats, especially now. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #362

From the north...always lived in the north....but visited... Hulk Oct 2013 #118

My nephew and his wife are living in an expat community dgibby Oct 2013 #202

The OP lost me at "liberalism handed to them on a silver platter". stlsaxman Oct 2013 #174

They're all "isms". rrneck Oct 2013 #257

Dude- you're all over the place.... stlsaxman Oct 2013 #353

That's fascinating. rrneck Oct 2013 #354

Brave post Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #2

I'm from Appalachia and have spent all my life here. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #3

The only thing that will change the South is immigration coldmountain Oct 2013 #6

The South declared war on America first AlbertCat Oct 2013 #21

At the same time, I think you'll see a backlash against the old white establishment by the young, Erose999 Oct 2013 #83

i hope you're right, and this is anecdotal on my part, but some of my young, distant realitives from dionysus Oct 2013 #179

lol! Sissyk Oct 2013 #154

Thanks to in-migration, my county in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #225

You must have a short memory Texasgal Oct 2013 #238

Short memory and a lot of hate. cordelia Oct 2013 #246

Immigration will help. My Mom was a Cracker "immigrant." Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #279

have spent all my life here. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #25

I don't get it. But then I wasn't educated in a southern school. AAO Oct 2013 #65

I wasn't educated in a southern school. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #68

Don't be so touchy. You are proving the opposite of your point. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #132

Wow, really? You win because the poster DirkGently Oct 2013 #199

Hey, I know it's off topic Aerows Oct 2013 #210

Hey -- check mail. 8) DirkGently Oct 2013 #212

Glad you're back! dgibby Oct 2013 #218

I come not to kick butt, but to share thoughts with DirkGently Oct 2013 #220

An unfortunate comment - it was inteneded to be tongue in cheek. AAO Oct 2013 #369

I live in the South Aerows Oct 2013 #203

Sorry I was not being serious - should have used the sarcasm thingy AAO Oct 2013 #372

The internet has helped a lot. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #40

Please read, Deer Hunting with Jesus cadaverdog Oct 2013 #49

Thank you n2doc Oct 2013 #5

Spent most of my life in the South...now gladly in the North... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #7

Thank you. brer cat Oct 2013 #9

So if you didn't grow up in a liberal environment, IrishAyes Oct 2013 #11

Its pretty fucking insulting. bunnies Oct 2013 #15

As I said, perhaps the old skin hasn't been fully shed yet. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #207

I think the OP was just explaining how difficult it is to be a liberal ... dawg Oct 2013 #16

but that's clearly not all the op is saying cali Oct 2013 #26

I can't speak to that. dawg Oct 2013 #36

Not really. rrneck Oct 2013 #260

It could've been expressed that way, but it wasn't. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #201

If you were born and raised in rrneck Oct 2013 #55

So your liberalism is better? And what was that you said about idiological arrogance? Squinch Oct 2013 #84

Nope. rrneck Oct 2013 #114

I don't think it gets handed so much as it is a starting point - but after that, NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #85

Lol, not on DU. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #95

Absolutely. rrneck Oct 2013 #120

So anything you didn't invent yourself is bogus? What a crock! IrishAyes Oct 2013 #198

"old-line liberals" rrneck Oct 2013 #261

TROLLISH! stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #75

Sure there are limo liberals in the world. But that still doesn't give anyone the right IrishAyes Oct 2013 #195

So liberals are born, not made. rrneck Oct 2013 #259

Your dogged determination to twist my words IrishAyes Oct 2013 #266

It has to come from inside, deep in your bones. rrneck Oct 2013 #273

It's late at night and this is starting to bore me since I do not trust the purity of intent IrishAyes Oct 2013 #287

Well, okay. rrneck Oct 2013 #289

BS. You've wasted my time long enough and haven't left the pretzel factory behind you yet. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #292

If this is a waste of time rrneck Oct 2013 #293

I'm from the South, too. dawg Oct 2013 #12

After the Ted Cruz fiasco, after the votes are tallied on vote after vote, what are we supposed to JDPriestly Oct 2013 #37

what are we supposed to say about Southerners? AlbertCat Oct 2013 #71

Texans pride themselves on their Southern affiliation. They are right next to Louisiana and JDPriestly Oct 2013 #126

And I live on the Gulf Coast in one of those neighboring states Aerows Oct 2013 #150

Good luck. Liberal Southerners are heroes, not scum, but unfortunately, liberal Southerners JDPriestly Oct 2013 #208

Texas rebelled against Mexico because of slavery then rebelled against the USA over slavery coldmountain Oct 2013 #144

Whatever you say, tell it to John Lewis as he's a southerner too. Hell, so is Hillary C and Erose999 Oct 2013 #88

That's correct but all Northerners shouldn't be blamed for them. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #102

If you'd ever been in Boehner's district, you would know that part of their problem is that JDPriestly Oct 2013 #127

Bohener's district is Cincinnati, right? Thats hardly Gerogia or Tennessee. One might say that citie Erose999 Oct 2013 #170

You have to go there and watch the local TV to believe it. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #211

Ohio has the "accent line" and southeast Ohio identifies with the South as does WestVirginia nowdays coldmountain Oct 2013 #180

My extended family are from West Virginia. They get more snow in one day than we get in 10 years, Erose999 Oct 2013 #318

Hillary was born in and raised in Illinois and went to Wellesley and Yale coldmountain Oct 2013 #152

There was no "Ted Cruz" fiasco. dawg Oct 2013 #103

You forget Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Kentucky (let's hope we get more Democrats there) JDPriestly Oct 2013 #124

Actual conservatives aren't Tea party but Southern states are proud to send scum to DC coldmountain Oct 2013 #159

lol! Sissyk Oct 2013 #161

Speechless. LOL!!! cordelia Oct 2013 #247

As does the bashing of Northern liberals as being whatever it is we're being Squinch Oct 2013 #82

Well, take your head out of the sand and listen to the fact that there Jamastiene Oct 2013 #135

To whom do you think you are speaking? You are, supposedly, making a point about Squinch Oct 2013 #143

So let me see if I have this right. bunnies Oct 2013 #13

Actually, no. rrneck Oct 2013 #262

I'm from the North Progressive dog Oct 2013 #14

Apparently you have to be born in the South to earn it. Personally, I was born to conservatives Squinch Oct 2013 #61

When you work for something you earned it. rrneck Oct 2013 #263

I call regionalism 'Place of Origin' bigotry, expanding the term to include the spirit of the law. freshwest Oct 2013 #18

I lived in the South a number of years. I think the bashing is perfectly justified. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #39

I saw a white lady wearing a poodle skirt today. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #64

When Southerners stop electing jerks like Vitters and Sessions and Lindsay Graham, the Pauls, Ted JDPriestly Oct 2013 #106

So you are judging the South on your experiences living here before MLK's "mountaintop" Erose999 Oct 2013 #90

And a better reply. I look forward to your OP. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #41

Thank you for a great post, I wish I could rec this Fumesucker Oct 2013 #245

Maybe if you gave examples of the liberal bigotry you're talking about pnwmom Oct 2013 #20

Well there is a lot of south bashing going on around here. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #107

Didn't you make an OP just recently wanting to send everyone in the South off to cordelia Oct 2013 #248

No, I didn't. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #252

Yes, you did. cordelia Oct 2013 #255

You're putting words in my mouth. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #256

No I'm not. n/t cordelia Oct 2013 #307

ah, my god. Bravo. Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #22

really, you know that people are pretending not to understand? cali Oct 2013 #28

Could you please be more specific aobut what you meant by the "ugly kind of bigotry beneath JDPriestly Oct 2013 #27

I confess, I don't even think it sound great. It sounds like an entry cali Oct 2013 #30

Ideology is a product like anything else. rrneck Oct 2013 #98

I agree with you procon Oct 2013 #29

ack. not according to the writing rules I strive to live by cali Oct 2013 #32

Why are you so habitually adversarial procon Oct 2013 #91

It also seeks to absolve themselves and their own regions BainsBane Oct 2013 #34

Northern Whites were 3 to 4 times more likely to vote for Obama than Southern whites coldmountain Oct 2013 #42

North, meaning if you ignore the West? BainsBane Oct 2013 #43

Onlly D.C. and HI had higher winning margins for Obama than VT cali Oct 2013 #54

Wow, thanks for that cool map of LSD usage in the United States. klook Oct 2013 #56

My county in NC and several of the counties around it are very rural and vote consistently blue. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #70

Bummer that you keep getting gerrymandered by the Republican legislature klook Oct 2013 #94

That is exactly what they've been doing. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #101

Once again look how red the lower right quadrant is coldmountain Oct 2013 #176

A few other areas, too klook Oct 2013 #182

That's not LSD! That's my endoscopy! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #284

This is an interesting animation also. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #113

+1 Go Vols Oct 2013 #323

Very cool. Thanks. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #328

Thank You. bvar22 Oct 2013 #331

I think I know what you mean Bradical79 Oct 2013 #38

It's tough to do. rrneck Oct 2013 #46

TO HEAR ALL THE WHINING FROM SOUTHERN WHITES ONE WOULD THINK THEY'RE THE MOST DISCRIMINATED AGAINST! coldmountain Oct 2013 #48

Just because of people like you. cordelia Oct 2013 #254

(not most discriminated against, just the most sanctified target.) Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #286

I'm from the South, and I'm opposed to both South-bashing and North-bashing. klook Oct 2013 #44

BINGO! ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #47

This! ^^^^ nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #265

You got it! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #288

Good post -- thanks for saying this Chiquitita Oct 2013 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2013 #53

I was born out of the left side of my mothers double uterus and have been a lefty ever since AAO Oct 2013 #57

Lots of LINOs around, Liberal In Name Only Fumesucker Oct 2013 #58

So some liberals are better than others? And it is due to region of origin? Squinch Oct 2013 #66

No, but it is very hard to be a liberal when you are surrounded by conservatives. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #73

So the liberalism of someone in a conservative area is better than the liberalism Squinch Oct 2013 #76

No, that is not what I am saying at all. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #86

The assumption implicit in the OP and in your post that those from the South are the only Squinch Oct 2013 #93

It's not for me. stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #81

It is not for me any more. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #87

I live in Shelby CO. Alabama so yes i am right in the middle of it and i give them Hell stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #160

Yup. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #185

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Oct 2013 #214

So because others are making judgments about who is the better liberal, so must you. I see. Squinch Oct 2013 #270

Your mentalist schtick is not at all convincing Fumesucker Oct 2013 #272

It's not mentalist schtick. It's called paraphrasing. And it is an accurate paraphrase of your post. Squinch Oct 2013 #276

Bless your heart Fumesucker Oct 2013 #277

I living in the South now, namely Georgia, but I was born in Philadelphia, PA, RebelOne Oct 2013 #62

Atlanta is far different than rest of Georgia. coldmountain Oct 2013 #110

I can believe that, but not Cherokee County where I live. RebelOne Oct 2013 #116

Yes, DeKalb did. But you hate us. We're in the South. Don't you remember? cordelia Oct 2013 #251

Golly! pecwae Oct 2013 #305

LOL! My profile has always stated I live in a purple pocket... Phentex Oct 2013 #311

DURec! bvar22 Oct 2013 #67

That is a gorgeous garden you have there. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #77

Plenty of more liberal places to support than Louisiana which whites voted 1 in 10 for Obama coldmountain Oct 2013 #119

I love you bvar, but voting patterns throughout the south cali Oct 2013 #121

...which does not justify sneering at all the people who DirkGently Oct 2013 #209

+1 justabob Oct 2013 #229

I love you too, Cali. Living BLUE in a RED area is not for everyone, bvar22 Oct 2013 #338

Thank you, great post! eom cry baby Oct 2013 #281

Feel free to expound more on the bigotry aspect of it DaveJ Oct 2013 #97

Politics is just another religion. rrneck Oct 2013 #240

When the South quits electing bigots every election cycle, the bashing will stop. Until then, Hoyt Oct 2013 #100

+1. When a state flies the Confederate flag as its state flag, it deserves ever bit of scorn. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #125

Georgia threw out a good Governor like Barnes because he wanted the State flag to not be Confederate coldmountain Oct 2013 #187

+100000000000000000000000000000. Hoyt Oct 2013 #191

Balony maindawg Oct 2013 #104

Well it doesn't get any better than that. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #136

thank you for understanding ! maindawg Oct 2013 #221

I think you misunderstood. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #222

I see this in Berkeley all the time Prism Oct 2013 #108

Have you ever lived in a small Southern town? The kids grow up aspiring to be prison guards coldmountain Oct 2013 #130

But we're talking about an assumption of cultural problems Prism Oct 2013 #139

"idea that having certain politics makes you defacto more intelligent".Think baggers don't feel that coldmountain Oct 2013 #234

A solid portion of them absolutely do Prism Oct 2013 #283

I agree completely. ncgrits Oct 2013 #271

I was born and raised in a small Southern town, dgibby Oct 2013 #228

I was raised in a small Southern town. None of the kids there grew up aspiring to be prison guards. cordelia Oct 2013 #242

It's a thing of beauty here...to see our "perfect Northern friends" sputter ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #109

I'm not sputtering. I don't hate the south. I don't bash the south cali Oct 2013 #128

I'm not "claiming." I'm merely "commenting." ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #190

I've had the same sig line since I joined up. rrneck Oct 2013 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author coldmountain Oct 2013 #137

"morally better" rrneck Oct 2013 #138

K/R and look out, progressives don't like to be called out on their imperfections. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #129

Gee, in the era of the Tea Party shutdown, progressives are being called out for their bigotry coldmountain Oct 2013 #141

One word for you. rrneck Oct 2013 #148

Spot on. I a good bit of lack-of-real-world-experience in this thread Link Speed Oct 2013 #133

How could an atheist know about good? How could born Liberal know about___________? Tikki Oct 2013 #142

Forgot to mention I'm an atheist too. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #146

Atheist here too. RebelOne Oct 2013 #149

Hang in there...A person is 'who they are' by their deeds, words not as much... Tikki Oct 2013 #158

I think you struck too close to home for some (tongue firmly in cheek). Good job! n/t X_Digger Oct 2013 #155

There are condescending assholes of every demographic. IronLionZion Oct 2013 #157

rrneck, I sorta' get you, I think nikto Oct 2013 #164

I think that rrneck Oct 2013 #243

Never mistake refusing to accept RW ideology and/or policy as arrogance and bigotry by liberals. Zorra Oct 2013 #168

What about accepting left wing ideology that is little more than treacly boilerplate? nt rrneck Oct 2013 #319

Could you please post some specific examples of what aspects of left wing ideology are little Zorra Oct 2013 #322

Generally speaking rrneck Oct 2013 #324

OK, thanks, I believe I see where you are coming from now. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #329

You're welcome. rrneck Oct 2013 #332

I can't speak for everyone in the South Aerows Oct 2013 #169

You got that and the fact the very nicest people I've met anywhere are have been in the South. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #178

Thank you! dgibby Oct 2013 #231

BRAV- freakin' -O, rrneck!!! Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #175

Well said, dgibby Oct 2013 #232

True. But I think maybe... Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #249

Okay, the "lawn darts" bit just made me Laugh. Out. Loud! kentauros Oct 2013 #264

Hear, hear! nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #274

I think liberals are frustrated to see so many people voting against their own best interests. alarimer Oct 2013 #188

What are "their own best interests" YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #217

I think you are due beer and travel money and many experiences. nt madinmaryland Oct 2013 #189

I'd take it. rrneck Oct 2013 #193

Well said. Beautifully written. DirkGently Oct 2013 #196

I've heard that song before 1..2..3 Zorra Oct 2013 #200

Which was a direct response to this song. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #206

Yes it was. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #213

Which reinforces the point that regionalism only serves to divide and that in turn Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #216

Bingeaux klook Oct 2013 #226

Yes it does. Zorra Oct 2013 #227

... Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #250

P.S. Here's another song from Lynyrd Skynyrd where they sing against racism. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #219

"When ideology becomes an affectation it also becomes a product. " This.... YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #205

I'm from Kentucky and think many southerners are to sensitive about this stuff. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #215

ok the South has plenty of RW idiots and Republicans steve2470 Oct 2013 #223

You would like reading Joe Bageant...he says what you say. riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #237

I love Joe. rrneck Oct 2013 #317

Gee... I dunno, maybe you've mis-classified, I've lived deeply in the south and north... MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #239

Anybody that makes less than about $100,000 a year is a liberal. rrneck Oct 2013 #253

Oye... MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #280

The 100k was more or less arbitrary. It might be 250k. It doesn't matter. rrneck Oct 2013 #282

Your phrase "I'm from the South" reminds me of one of my nieces who heard that at camp. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #285

LOL rrneck Oct 2013 #290

Girls can be mean. I learned that many years ago as a young boy. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #291

HA! Growing up in Florida, my brother, when cut off in traffic... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #295

That is hilarious riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #335

Uh huh Scootaloo Oct 2013 #303

Um, no. rrneck Oct 2013 #316

Yep. That's about the size of it. Squinch Oct 2013 #320

#310 is still waiting for you. Did you forget? U mad bro? nt rrneck Oct 2013 #326

If you wanna' understand the South, BellaKos Oct 2013 #306

Human beings are tribal critters. rrneck Oct 2013 #314

Does everyone belong to a "tribe"? Martin Eden Oct 2013 #337

Aside from the rare mountaintop aesectec rrneck Oct 2013 #339

The "tone" of my first response to you in this thread ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #341

"This" tribe is critical of "that" tribe for good reason. rrneck Oct 2013 #342

Was this reply intended for me? Martin Eden Oct 2013 #345

I'm posting from a phone rrneck Oct 2013 #346

Ah. Yep, I'm a dumb ass. rrneck Oct 2013 #348

Judge not, lest ye be judged Martin Eden Oct 2013 #308

That's very true. rrneck Oct 2013 #313

Excellent Post. bvar22 Oct 2013 #340

I've never engaged in regionalism on DU, because I think it's stupid. It never occurred to me Squinch Oct 2013 #309

There was no value judgement. rrneck Oct 2013 #310

Mississippi (admittedly a few years old, but worth a mention) nolabear Oct 2013 #312

Absolutely. rrneck Oct 2013 #315

Well, at some risk, BellaKos Oct 2013 #321

The Tea Party rrneck Oct 2013 #325

Honestly, you might as well give up now. ladyVet Oct 2013 #347

Unfortunately rrneck Oct 2013 #349

Not all DEMs are equal, but it's better to give specific examples. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #351

A specific example would be an accusation. rrneck Oct 2013 #355

I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #359

I could come up with all kinds of specific examples rrneck Oct 2013 #363

I never thought there were "hard and fast rules" about being a liberal. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #364

Well, generosity and tolerance are not liberal values. rrneck Oct 2013 #367

Interesting discussion Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #357

Yep. rrneck Oct 2013 #358

Gobbbledegook. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #365

"Guns in my screen name" rrneck Oct 2013 #366

People use lower case r because it looks like a gun. If you didn't, I was mistaken. But the rest of Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #376

Funny thing about symbols and association... rrneck Oct 2013 #377

What? Who's got guns in their screen name? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #375

I think I love you. renie408 Oct 2013 #370

And I love the fact that so many of the people responding are illustrating the fourth paragraph renie408 Oct 2013 #371

Southern Democrats need a big tent, not a tiny politically correct tent saynotoplutocrats Oct 2013 #373