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183. Cali, Yes, it seems to me as well that...

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:36 PM

Oct 2013

Sorry, but the "south vs north" aspect of this discussion has
spilled over into right vs left, for me.

IMO, a true Liberal is a Liberal, regardless of where they live or their income.

But somehow, in this thread, within the distracting framing of the "south vs north", it still seems like
some are pushing the "equivalency" (between Liberal and Conservative) theme here with a real sense of need behind it.

What's up with that?

Hurt feelings perhaps?

Nobody denies Liberalism has its share of hypocrites, but there is no equivalency on the left to the right's shutting down the gov't
over a passed law, waving a Confederate flag outside the WH, the birthers' behaviors, grass-roots quotes like,
"get your gov't hands off my medicare", terms like, "feminazis"; Michele Bachmann's (a US Congresswoman, no less) numerous
mis-statements regarding US History, the Koch Bros, rightwing media icon Roger Ailes running Fox Nooz, etc etc etc etc
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Neither side is perfect. Duh.

But throwing away distinctions that do matter is childish.

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I'm from the south. [View all] rrneck Oct 2013 OP

I'm sorry, this just doesn't make much sense to me cali Oct 2013 #1

I'm with you, but I still live in the south TxDemChem Oct 2013 #4

If you read the post carefully, you swiftly discern cali Oct 2013 #10

Maybe we need to adjust our "plumage" to make sense of it. bunnies Oct 2013 #17

er, um, yes. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #19

what you just wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out in my cali Oct 2013 #24

what you just wrote doesn't have anything to do with what I pointed out in my... AlbertCat Oct 2013 #63

I can parse. cali Oct 2013 #74

What on earth do you think one blogger is evidence of? AlbertCat Oct 2013 #80

Do you see posts on DU Aerows Oct 2013 #117

What are you saying Hutzpa Oct 2013 #156

My point is that on DU Aerows Oct 2013 #162

Have you ever seen me post anything like that? No and you never will cali Oct 2013 #330

I condemn the South because I lived there for some years and I know southerners. Granted JDPriestly Oct 2013 #31

I condemn the South because it sends characters like Ted Cruz and Lindsay Graham, etc. to Congress. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #59

The South also sent John Lewis and Alan Grayson to congress. And I think you'll find a lot of Erose999 Oct 2013 #78

I live in MS Aerows Oct 2013 #122

I condemn California because Sissyk Oct 2013 #69

California also has 38 million people coldmountain Oct 2013 #165

So over 80 hate groups Sissyk Oct 2013 #181

Yeah, and don't forget that tiny little state of New Jersey, with its 51 hate groups. That whole Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #230

Per capita Tennessee has 5 times as many hate groups as California and you brag coldmountain Oct 2013 #233

Yeah, that's what the other exploding heads went on about, too.. per capita,, blah blah blah.. Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #267

How is "per capita" not "real numbers"? cui bono Oct 2013 #352

What then is precise per capita percentage from which we may extrapolate LanternWaste Oct 2013 #356

You are correct. Sissyk Oct 2013 #236

Thank you, Sissyk :-) Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #269

We also had Washington, dgibby Oct 2013 #89

Unlike dgibby Oct 2013 #224

As I said, I lived in the South for some years, was educated there. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #298

I grew up in Virginia, dgibby Oct 2013 #302

As someone who went to high school with Terry... TheOther95Percent Oct 2013 #333

You're welcome. dgibby Oct 2013 #350

You must have been a hermit then. Texasgal Oct 2013 #235

I've heard good things about Austin and have a friend there. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #299

Didn't get out much, did you? cordelia Oct 2013 #244

I'm not claiming that a utopia exists. But Vitter and Sessions, please! JDPriestly Oct 2013 #297

"They haven't changed," "I condemn the South." The seed bed of prejudice. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #268

I'll believe that they have changed when Don Siegelman gets out of prison and is sitting in the JDPriestly Oct 2013 #296

Yea, the South elects people like Bachmann, Santorum, Walker.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #294

"USED to be" is key here eridani Oct 2013 #304

Yeah, it starts off good . . . brush Oct 2013 #327

It starts off good because rrneck Oct 2013 #334

Glad to have you aboard . . . brush Oct 2013 #343

Hey, I'm a liberal. rrneck Oct 2013 #344

I'm not getting it either. PotatoChip Oct 2013 #8

I'm an ex-Southerner too and find the OP to be ridiculous. dballance Oct 2013 #23

I don't know how it is where you are rrneck Oct 2013 #33

So liberals aren't allowed to LondonReign2 Oct 2013 #45

We're not allowed to rrneck Oct 2013 #51

Because I have a 401K and the fund manage invests in something I don't like AAO Oct 2013 #60

Well, that and because you don't live in the South, according to the OP. Squinch Oct 2013 #99

I didn't say it was easy. rrneck Oct 2013 #123

bunch of hippies old and 2nd and even 3rd generation cali Oct 2013 #52

I like logic too. rrneck Oct 2013 #72

I'm speaking of applying logic to whatever case someone is trying to make cali Oct 2013 #96

Liberals are human and humans aren't perfect. rrneck Oct 2013 #111

Cali, Yes, it seems to me as well that... nikto Oct 2013 #183

And how does it matter? What is constructive about highlighting those "distinctions?" Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #278

Oh, I don't know... nikto Oct 2013 #300

Well, yes you do. What is the purpose of your assertions? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #301

On 2nd thought, perhaps not.. nikto Oct 2013 #374

What's wrong with liberal celebrities? coldmountain Oct 2013 #171

Nothing. rrneck Oct 2013 #194

Here is some meat I can chew on.... Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #360

There isn't really a specific list of do's and don'ts. rrneck Oct 2013 #361

I've lived in the South all of my life Aerows Oct 2013 #35

We do continue trying. kentauros Oct 2013 #79

In order for southern liberals to be respected here on DU, we Jamastiene Oct 2013 #92

That sucks about your voting methods being changed. kentauros Oct 2013 #105

I wish our voting laws were standard nationwide. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #140

I agree. kentauros Oct 2013 #147

I hate to say it Aerows Oct 2013 #112

If it is the same post I remember, it was Hurricane Earl and Jamastiene Oct 2013 #145

I'm doing my best to change hearts and minds here Aerows Oct 2013 #151

Ah yes, the famous magic wand. I think Obama has it & isn't sharing... Hekate Oct 2013 #184

Hear hear! nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #258

My favorite Aerows Oct 2013 #115

I've seen those same posts and it's made me ill, too. kentauros Oct 2013 #134

This was recently Aerows Oct 2013 #153

I've been told, today even, that it's all wishful thinking, kentauros Oct 2013 #163

I know Aerows Oct 2013 #166

I remember too, trying to get people to understand kentauros Oct 2013 #173

I remember all too well Aerows Oct 2013 #177

The most I've gone is a week, after Alicia in 1983. kentauros Oct 2013 #186

There are a lot of Southerners on DU. dgibby Oct 2013 #192

I wish I *couldn't* agree Aerows Oct 2013 #197

**** NCarolinawoman Oct 2013 #241

What gets me is the condemnation comes without any stated purpose... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #275

Some people NEED to point fingers. bvar22 Oct 2013 #336

Better to talk with people than to point fingers at them. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #368

You must be very strong nikto Oct 2013 #167

It does Aerows Oct 2013 #172

You must have... nikto Oct 2013 #204

Yeah, I think we have to go back to trying to win ALL seats, especially now. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #362

From the north...always lived in the north....but visited... Hulk Oct 2013 #118

My nephew and his wife are living in an expat community dgibby Oct 2013 #202

The OP lost me at "liberalism handed to them on a silver platter". stlsaxman Oct 2013 #174

They're all "isms". rrneck Oct 2013 #257

Dude- you're all over the place.... stlsaxman Oct 2013 #353

That's fascinating. rrneck Oct 2013 #354

Brave post Boom Sound 416 Oct 2013 #2

I'm from Appalachia and have spent all my life here. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #3

The only thing that will change the South is immigration coldmountain Oct 2013 #6

The South declared war on America first AlbertCat Oct 2013 #21

At the same time, I think you'll see a backlash against the old white establishment by the young, Erose999 Oct 2013 #83

i hope you're right, and this is anecdotal on my part, but some of my young, distant realitives from dionysus Oct 2013 #179

lol! Sissyk Oct 2013 #154

Thanks to in-migration, my county in Arkansas Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #225

You must have a short memory Texasgal Oct 2013 #238

Short memory and a lot of hate. cordelia Oct 2013 #246

Immigration will help. My Mom was a Cracker "immigrant." Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #279

have spent all my life here. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #25

I don't get it. But then I wasn't educated in a southern school. AAO Oct 2013 #65

I wasn't educated in a southern school. AlbertCat Oct 2013 #68

Don't be so touchy. You are proving the opposite of your point. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #132

Wow, really? You win because the poster DirkGently Oct 2013 #199

Hey, I know it's off topic Aerows Oct 2013 #210

Hey -- check mail. 8) DirkGently Oct 2013 #212

Glad you're back! dgibby Oct 2013 #218

I come not to kick butt, but to share thoughts with DirkGently Oct 2013 #220

An unfortunate comment - it was inteneded to be tongue in cheek. AAO Oct 2013 #369

I live in the South Aerows Oct 2013 #203

Sorry I was not being serious - should have used the sarcasm thingy AAO Oct 2013 #372

The internet has helped a lot. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #40

Please read, Deer Hunting with Jesus cadaverdog Oct 2013 #49

Thank you n2doc Oct 2013 #5

Spent most of my life in the South...now gladly in the North... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #7

Thank you. brer cat Oct 2013 #9

So if you didn't grow up in a liberal environment, IrishAyes Oct 2013 #11

Its pretty fucking insulting. bunnies Oct 2013 #15

As I said, perhaps the old skin hasn't been fully shed yet. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #207

I think the OP was just explaining how difficult it is to be a liberal ... dawg Oct 2013 #16

but that's clearly not all the op is saying cali Oct 2013 #26

I can't speak to that. dawg Oct 2013 #36

Not really. rrneck Oct 2013 #260

It could've been expressed that way, but it wasn't. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #201

If you were born and raised in rrneck Oct 2013 #55

So your liberalism is better? And what was that you said about idiological arrogance? Squinch Oct 2013 #84

Nope. rrneck Oct 2013 #114

I don't think it gets handed so much as it is a starting point - but after that, NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #85

Lol, not on DU. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #95

Absolutely. rrneck Oct 2013 #120

So anything you didn't invent yourself is bogus? What a crock! IrishAyes Oct 2013 #198

"old-line liberals" rrneck Oct 2013 #261

TROLLISH! stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #75

Sure there are limo liberals in the world. But that still doesn't give anyone the right IrishAyes Oct 2013 #195

So liberals are born, not made. rrneck Oct 2013 #259

Your dogged determination to twist my words IrishAyes Oct 2013 #266

It has to come from inside, deep in your bones. rrneck Oct 2013 #273

It's late at night and this is starting to bore me since I do not trust the purity of intent IrishAyes Oct 2013 #287

Well, okay. rrneck Oct 2013 #289

BS. You've wasted my time long enough and haven't left the pretzel factory behind you yet. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #292

If this is a waste of time rrneck Oct 2013 #293

I'm from the South, too. dawg Oct 2013 #12

After the Ted Cruz fiasco, after the votes are tallied on vote after vote, what are we supposed to JDPriestly Oct 2013 #37

what are we supposed to say about Southerners? AlbertCat Oct 2013 #71

Texans pride themselves on their Southern affiliation. They are right next to Louisiana and JDPriestly Oct 2013 #126

And I live on the Gulf Coast in one of those neighboring states Aerows Oct 2013 #150

Good luck. Liberal Southerners are heroes, not scum, but unfortunately, liberal Southerners JDPriestly Oct 2013 #208

Texas rebelled against Mexico because of slavery then rebelled against the USA over slavery coldmountain Oct 2013 #144

Whatever you say, tell it to John Lewis as he's a southerner too. Hell, so is Hillary C and Erose999 Oct 2013 #88

That's correct but all Northerners shouldn't be blamed for them. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #102

If you'd ever been in Boehner's district, you would know that part of their problem is that JDPriestly Oct 2013 #127

Bohener's district is Cincinnati, right? Thats hardly Gerogia or Tennessee. One might say that citie Erose999 Oct 2013 #170

You have to go there and watch the local TV to believe it. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #211

Ohio has the "accent line" and southeast Ohio identifies with the South as does WestVirginia nowdays coldmountain Oct 2013 #180

My extended family are from West Virginia. They get more snow in one day than we get in 10 years, Erose999 Oct 2013 #318

Hillary was born in and raised in Illinois and went to Wellesley and Yale coldmountain Oct 2013 #152

There was no "Ted Cruz" fiasco. dawg Oct 2013 #103

You forget Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Kentucky (let's hope we get more Democrats there) JDPriestly Oct 2013 #124

Actual conservatives aren't Tea party but Southern states are proud to send scum to DC coldmountain Oct 2013 #159

lol! Sissyk Oct 2013 #161

Speechless. LOL!!! cordelia Oct 2013 #247

As does the bashing of Northern liberals as being whatever it is we're being Squinch Oct 2013 #82

Well, take your head out of the sand and listen to the fact that there Jamastiene Oct 2013 #135

To whom do you think you are speaking? You are, supposedly, making a point about Squinch Oct 2013 #143

So let me see if I have this right. bunnies Oct 2013 #13

Actually, no. rrneck Oct 2013 #262

I'm from the North Progressive dog Oct 2013 #14

Apparently you have to be born in the South to earn it. Personally, I was born to conservatives Squinch Oct 2013 #61

When you work for something you earned it. rrneck Oct 2013 #263

I call regionalism 'Place of Origin' bigotry, expanding the term to include the spirit of the law. freshwest Oct 2013 #18

I lived in the South a number of years. I think the bashing is perfectly justified. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #39

I saw a white lady wearing a poodle skirt today. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #64

When Southerners stop electing jerks like Vitters and Sessions and Lindsay Graham, the Pauls, Ted JDPriestly Oct 2013 #106

So you are judging the South on your experiences living here before MLK's "mountaintop" Erose999 Oct 2013 #90

And a better reply. I look forward to your OP. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #41

Thank you for a great post, I wish I could rec this Fumesucker Oct 2013 #245

Maybe if you gave examples of the liberal bigotry you're talking about pnwmom Oct 2013 #20

Well there is a lot of south bashing going on around here. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #107

Didn't you make an OP just recently wanting to send everyone in the South off to cordelia Oct 2013 #248

No, I didn't. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #252

Yes, you did. cordelia Oct 2013 #255

You're putting words in my mouth. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #256

No I'm not. n/t cordelia Oct 2013 #307

ah, my god. Bravo. Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #22

really, you know that people are pretending not to understand? cali Oct 2013 #28

Could you please be more specific aobut what you meant by the "ugly kind of bigotry beneath JDPriestly Oct 2013 #27

I confess, I don't even think it sound great. It sounds like an entry cali Oct 2013 #30

Ideology is a product like anything else. rrneck Oct 2013 #98

I agree with you procon Oct 2013 #29

ack. not according to the writing rules I strive to live by cali Oct 2013 #32

Why are you so habitually adversarial procon Oct 2013 #91

It also seeks to absolve themselves and their own regions BainsBane Oct 2013 #34

Northern Whites were 3 to 4 times more likely to vote for Obama than Southern whites coldmountain Oct 2013 #42

North, meaning if you ignore the West? BainsBane Oct 2013 #43

Onlly D.C. and HI had higher winning margins for Obama than VT cali Oct 2013 #54

Wow, thanks for that cool map of LSD usage in the United States. klook Oct 2013 #56

My county in NC and several of the counties around it are very rural and vote consistently blue. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #70

Bummer that you keep getting gerrymandered by the Republican legislature klook Oct 2013 #94

That is exactly what they've been doing. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #101

Once again look how red the lower right quadrant is coldmountain Oct 2013 #176

A few other areas, too klook Oct 2013 #182

That's not LSD! That's my endoscopy! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #284

This is an interesting animation also. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #113

+1 Go Vols Oct 2013 #323

Very cool. Thanks. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #328

Thank You. bvar22 Oct 2013 #331

I think I know what you mean Bradical79 Oct 2013 #38

It's tough to do. rrneck Oct 2013 #46

TO HEAR ALL THE WHINING FROM SOUTHERN WHITES ONE WOULD THINK THEY'RE THE MOST DISCRIMINATED AGAINST! coldmountain Oct 2013 #48

Just because of people like you. cordelia Oct 2013 #254

(not most discriminated against, just the most sanctified target.) Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #286

I'm from the South, and I'm opposed to both South-bashing and North-bashing. klook Oct 2013 #44

BINGO! ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #47

This! ^^^^ nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #265

You got it! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #288

Good post -- thanks for saying this Chiquitita Oct 2013 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2013 #53

I was born out of the left side of my mothers double uterus and have been a lefty ever since AAO Oct 2013 #57

Lots of LINOs around, Liberal In Name Only Fumesucker Oct 2013 #58

So some liberals are better than others? And it is due to region of origin? Squinch Oct 2013 #66

No, but it is very hard to be a liberal when you are surrounded by conservatives. n/t Jamastiene Oct 2013 #73

So the liberalism of someone in a conservative area is better than the liberalism Squinch Oct 2013 #76

No, that is not what I am saying at all. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #86

The assumption implicit in the OP and in your post that those from the South are the only Squinch Oct 2013 #93

It's not for me. stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #81

It is not for me any more. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #87

I live in Shelby CO. Alabama so yes i am right in the middle of it and i give them Hell stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #160

Yup. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #185

Welcome to DU! Fumesucker Oct 2013 #214

So because others are making judgments about who is the better liberal, so must you. I see. Squinch Oct 2013 #270

Your mentalist schtick is not at all convincing Fumesucker Oct 2013 #272

It's not mentalist schtick. It's called paraphrasing. And it is an accurate paraphrase of your post. Squinch Oct 2013 #276

Bless your heart Fumesucker Oct 2013 #277

I living in the South now, namely Georgia, but I was born in Philadelphia, PA, RebelOne Oct 2013 #62

Atlanta is far different than rest of Georgia. coldmountain Oct 2013 #110

I can believe that, but not Cherokee County where I live. RebelOne Oct 2013 #116

Yes, DeKalb did. But you hate us. We're in the South. Don't you remember? cordelia Oct 2013 #251

Golly! pecwae Oct 2013 #305

LOL! My profile has always stated I live in a purple pocket... Phentex Oct 2013 #311

DURec! bvar22 Oct 2013 #67

That is a gorgeous garden you have there. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #77

Plenty of more liberal places to support than Louisiana which whites voted 1 in 10 for Obama coldmountain Oct 2013 #119

I love you bvar, but voting patterns throughout the south cali Oct 2013 #121

...which does not justify sneering at all the people who DirkGently Oct 2013 #209

+1 justabob Oct 2013 #229

I love you too, Cali. Living BLUE in a RED area is not for everyone, bvar22 Oct 2013 #338

Thank you, great post! eom cry baby Oct 2013 #281

Feel free to expound more on the bigotry aspect of it DaveJ Oct 2013 #97

Politics is just another religion. rrneck Oct 2013 #240

When the South quits electing bigots every election cycle, the bashing will stop. Until then, Hoyt Oct 2013 #100

+1. When a state flies the Confederate flag as its state flag, it deserves ever bit of scorn. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #125

Georgia threw out a good Governor like Barnes because he wanted the State flag to not be Confederate coldmountain Oct 2013 #187

+100000000000000000000000000000. Hoyt Oct 2013 #191

Balony maindawg Oct 2013 #104

Well it doesn't get any better than that. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #136

thank you for understanding ! maindawg Oct 2013 #221

I think you misunderstood. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #222

I see this in Berkeley all the time Prism Oct 2013 #108

Have you ever lived in a small Southern town? The kids grow up aspiring to be prison guards coldmountain Oct 2013 #130

But we're talking about an assumption of cultural problems Prism Oct 2013 #139

"idea that having certain politics makes you defacto more intelligent".Think baggers don't feel that coldmountain Oct 2013 #234

A solid portion of them absolutely do Prism Oct 2013 #283

I agree completely. ncgrits Oct 2013 #271

I was born and raised in a small Southern town, dgibby Oct 2013 #228

I was raised in a small Southern town. None of the kids there grew up aspiring to be prison guards. cordelia Oct 2013 #242

It's a thing of beauty here...to see our "perfect Northern friends" sputter ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #109

I'm not sputtering. I don't hate the south. I don't bash the south cali Oct 2013 #128

I'm not "claiming." I'm merely "commenting." ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #190

I've had the same sig line since I joined up. rrneck Oct 2013 #131

This message was self-deleted by its author coldmountain Oct 2013 #137

"morally better" rrneck Oct 2013 #138

K/R and look out, progressives don't like to be called out on their imperfections. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #129

Gee, in the era of the Tea Party shutdown, progressives are being called out for their bigotry coldmountain Oct 2013 #141

One word for you. rrneck Oct 2013 #148

Spot on. I a good bit of lack-of-real-world-experience in this thread Link Speed Oct 2013 #133

How could an atheist know about good? How could born Liberal know about___________? Tikki Oct 2013 #142

Forgot to mention I'm an atheist too. ntt rrneck Oct 2013 #146

Atheist here too. RebelOne Oct 2013 #149

Hang in there...A person is 'who they are' by their deeds, words not as much... Tikki Oct 2013 #158

I think you struck too close to home for some (tongue firmly in cheek). Good job! n/t X_Digger Oct 2013 #155

There are condescending assholes of every demographic. IronLionZion Oct 2013 #157

rrneck, I sorta' get you, I think nikto Oct 2013 #164

I think that rrneck Oct 2013 #243

Never mistake refusing to accept RW ideology and/or policy as arrogance and bigotry by liberals. Zorra Oct 2013 #168

What about accepting left wing ideology that is little more than treacly boilerplate? nt rrneck Oct 2013 #319

Could you please post some specific examples of what aspects of left wing ideology are little Zorra Oct 2013 #322

Generally speaking rrneck Oct 2013 #324

OK, thanks, I believe I see where you are coming from now. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #329

You're welcome. rrneck Oct 2013 #332

I can't speak for everyone in the South Aerows Oct 2013 #169

You got that and the fact the very nicest people I've met anywhere are have been in the South. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #178

Thank you! dgibby Oct 2013 #231

BRAV- freakin' -O, rrneck!!! Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #175

Well said, dgibby Oct 2013 #232

True. But I think maybe... Whiskeytide Oct 2013 #249

Okay, the "lawn darts" bit just made me Laugh. Out. Loud! kentauros Oct 2013 #264

Hear, hear! nt ncgrits Oct 2013 #274

I think liberals are frustrated to see so many people voting against their own best interests. alarimer Oct 2013 #188

What are "their own best interests" YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #217

I think you are due beer and travel money and many experiences. nt madinmaryland Oct 2013 #189

I'd take it. rrneck Oct 2013 #193

Well said. Beautifully written. DirkGently Oct 2013 #196

I've heard that song before 1..2..3 Zorra Oct 2013 #200

Which was a direct response to this song. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #206

Yes it was. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #213

Which reinforces the point that regionalism only serves to divide and that in turn Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #216

Bingeaux klook Oct 2013 #226

Yes it does. Zorra Oct 2013 #227

... Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #250

P.S. Here's another song from Lynyrd Skynyrd where they sing against racism. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #219

"When ideology becomes an affectation it also becomes a product. " This.... YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #205

I'm from Kentucky and think many southerners are to sensitive about this stuff. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #215

ok the South has plenty of RW idiots and Republicans steve2470 Oct 2013 #223

You would like reading Joe Bageant...he says what you say. riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #237

I love Joe. rrneck Oct 2013 #317

Gee... I dunno, maybe you've mis-classified, I've lived deeply in the south and north... MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #239

Anybody that makes less than about $100,000 a year is a liberal. rrneck Oct 2013 #253

Oye... MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #280

The 100k was more or less arbitrary. It might be 250k. It doesn't matter. rrneck Oct 2013 #282

Your phrase "I'm from the South" reminds me of one of my nieces who heard that at camp. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #285

LOL rrneck Oct 2013 #290

Girls can be mean. I learned that many years ago as a young boy. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #291

HA! Growing up in Florida, my brother, when cut off in traffic... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #295

That is hilarious riverbendviewgal Oct 2013 #335

Uh huh Scootaloo Oct 2013 #303

Um, no. rrneck Oct 2013 #316

Yep. That's about the size of it. Squinch Oct 2013 #320

#310 is still waiting for you. Did you forget? U mad bro? nt rrneck Oct 2013 #326

If you wanna' understand the South, BellaKos Oct 2013 #306

Human beings are tribal critters. rrneck Oct 2013 #314

Does everyone belong to a "tribe"? Martin Eden Oct 2013 #337

Aside from the rare mountaintop aesectec rrneck Oct 2013 #339

The "tone" of my first response to you in this thread ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #341

"This" tribe is critical of "that" tribe for good reason. rrneck Oct 2013 #342

Was this reply intended for me? Martin Eden Oct 2013 #345

I'm posting from a phone rrneck Oct 2013 #346

Ah. Yep, I'm a dumb ass. rrneck Oct 2013 #348

Judge not, lest ye be judged Martin Eden Oct 2013 #308

That's very true. rrneck Oct 2013 #313

Excellent Post. bvar22 Oct 2013 #340

I've never engaged in regionalism on DU, because I think it's stupid. It never occurred to me Squinch Oct 2013 #309

There was no value judgement. rrneck Oct 2013 #310

Mississippi (admittedly a few years old, but worth a mention) nolabear Oct 2013 #312

Absolutely. rrneck Oct 2013 #315

Well, at some risk, BellaKos Oct 2013 #321

The Tea Party rrneck Oct 2013 #325

Honestly, you might as well give up now. ladyVet Oct 2013 #347

Unfortunately rrneck Oct 2013 #349

Not all DEMs are equal, but it's better to give specific examples. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #351

A specific example would be an accusation. rrneck Oct 2013 #355

I'm not sure I understand your reasoning. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #359

I could come up with all kinds of specific examples rrneck Oct 2013 #363

I never thought there were "hard and fast rules" about being a liberal. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #364

Well, generosity and tolerance are not liberal values. rrneck Oct 2013 #367

Interesting discussion Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #357

Yep. rrneck Oct 2013 #358

Gobbbledegook. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #365

"Guns in my screen name" rrneck Oct 2013 #366

People use lower case r because it looks like a gun. If you didn't, I was mistaken. But the rest of Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #376

Funny thing about symbols and association... rrneck Oct 2013 #377

What? Who's got guns in their screen name? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #375

I think I love you. renie408 Oct 2013 #370

And I love the fact that so many of the people responding are illustrating the fourth paragraph renie408 Oct 2013 #371

Southern Democrats need a big tent, not a tiny politically correct tent saynotoplutocrats Oct 2013 #373