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The Velveteen Ocelot

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24. The "raw" part is what I don't get.
Fri Oct 18, 2013, 09:35 AM
Oct 2013

There are a lot of ways of preparing vegetables for an excellent meal, but they mostly involve actually cooking them. While I understand the rationale for not eating meat, I don't get the notion that all vegetables have to be eaten raw. Tomatoes, fine (though technically tomatoes are fruit). But squash? Lima beans? (not that I would even eat those cooked) And please don't tell me to eat algae, not gonna happen. And tofu tastes like your own tongue. There is a raw vegan restaurant in my city, and eating there did nothing but cause a desperate craving for a big hunk of prime rib. Seems to me the vegan movement would get more converts by persuading people that vegan food can actually taste good (creative cooking can help). The OP's sales pitch has some good points, but it will take more than a rant about the evils of factory farming to persuade a lot of people to eat uncooked algae.

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Are we are allowed to eat cheese? nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #1
As a vegan, I don't. Instead, give soy, almond or rice cheese a try... livingwagenow Oct 2013 #2
They can taste good... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #9
I have tried it and I didn't like it. The consistency is weird. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #26
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If being a vegan is so great Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #55
good point. n/t Scout Oct 2013 #60
That's actually a fair question. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #75
I have the opposite feeling about the raw diet Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #222
Because there's money to be made selling those things. Mariana Oct 2013 #89
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #139
because handmade34 Oct 2013 #168
Because StrayKat Oct 2013 #251
Ask me that question after you've been served loose corn on a bun at a barbecue. nt yewberry Oct 2013 #268
Or, you could worry about what's on your own fork Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #190
You are replying here to what the OP author wrote in reply to someone asking a question. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #291
Okay, awesome for you. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #300
Nice lecture. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #334
Thanks! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #336
Nut cheese Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #221
Even after being a vegan for 25 years I'm not mature enough to see the term "nut cheese" Codeine Oct 2013 #256
There's that, too! Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #276
Vegetarian diets allow it. SamYeager Oct 2013 #3
It would not be especially difficult for me to go vegetarian. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #4
It's entirely possible to create delicious vegan food. MineralMan Oct 2013 #5
I have no doubt that it's possible to prepare tasty vegan meals. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #10
Well, genuine raw food vegans are extremely limited in MineralMan Oct 2013 #20
My favorite Vegan dishes are Indian SamYeager Oct 2013 #82
Indian cuisine is one I've never reallly explored. MineralMan Oct 2013 #86
Try cooking them yourself. SamYeager Oct 2013 #88
But make sure you open every window in the house Codeine Oct 2013 #107
I never turn on a burner without turning on the hood vent first, regardless of what I am cooking. SamYeager Oct 2013 #110
Are you familiar with Lisa's Vegetarian Kitchen? Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #278
Oh MineralMan handmade34 Oct 2013 #171
Some of my favorite foods are vegetarian or vegan Greek foods ... REP Oct 2013 #197
Aloo gobi is one of the great dishes on earth. Codeine Oct 2013 #202
Indian food is WONDERFUL. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #277
Not all plant-based dishes taste that way. athena Oct 2013 #236
Especially if you move to South America! Coyotl Oct 2013 #6
Interesting how that word salad contains no reference to enjoying food. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #7
If food isn't political why are food giants spending huge amounts.. livingwagenow Oct 2013 #11
That's economics, not politics. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #13
I love food and love eating Codeine Oct 2013 #19
My enjoyment of what I eat increased when I went vegan whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #29
"I like vegetables" is a rarely cited reason for being a vegan Retrograde Oct 2013 #142
Lol, StrayKat Oct 2013 #252
... handmade34 Oct 2013 #175
"Food is politics." Yes, it is. noamnety Oct 2013 #227
There is a political aspect to much if not all of life. Clearly, Monsanto's power and influencea Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #292
Is word salad vegan? I hear it comes from animals. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #305
Whatever! hobbit709 Oct 2013 #8
AutoVeganRec. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #12
Great list! 2 really stands out but all points are so, so true! livingwagenow Oct 2013 #15
And that, friends, is why there aren't all that many vegans. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #17
I don't shame or get a bug up my ass when it comes to this, though. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #21
Every vegan I'm aware of IRL is a sanctimonious asshole. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #54
I know what you mean. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #71
...while they were gently pulled from the ground by Maya Angelou.... dionysus Oct 2013 #167
On the reverse side of that coin, chervilant Oct 2013 #217
That isn't analogous to what I said in the least. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #240
Analogous? chervilant Oct 2013 #265
A doctor saying that you need a triple bypass often does though.. livingwagenow Oct 2013 #23
Dunno about Dreamer, but I was in pre-hypertension. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #287
I guess that depends on a person's development of conscience and ability to empathize. Zorra Oct 2013 #31
Now that's an interesting response - el_bryanto Oct 2013 #33
No. Just that some people are more sensitive to acts of cruelty than others are, and that Zorra Oct 2013 #40
Well in fairness to the Republicanoids - many of them believed that we were insensitive to Saddams el_bryanto Oct 2013 #41
Yes, I believe that human beings should be sensitive to the suffering we cause to each other and the Zorra Oct 2013 #51
I think the Iraq war was a mistake if that's what you are asking. Slaughter's a pretty loaded word. el_bryanto Oct 2013 #65
Sorry, your question is rhetorical. How is it *genuinely* relevant to this conversation? nt Zorra Oct 2013 #72
Interesting response el_bryanto Oct 2013 #79
Still rhetorical. Yes, it is your choice to eat meat from animals that were tortured Zorra Oct 2013 #85
Ah - did I pass your little test? nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #87
No. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #109
Story of my life. nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #115
You Are RobinA Oct 2013 #174
*sigh* Zorra Oct 2013 #322
Seemed to me the poster was merely comparing the conscious and inhumane deaths we in one instance, r LanternWaste Oct 2013 #335
You're really not helping. NT Codeine Oct 2013 #38
Yeah. HappyMe Oct 2013 #44
doesn't sound like shaming handmade34 Oct 2013 #179
Seems like most of that is againsy Factory Farming. Do you include factory veg farming? uppityperson Oct 2013 #94
Absolutely. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #118
Vegans RobinA Oct 2013 #165
In a way it's no different than any cause that's not well understood. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #169
Makes you wonder about what? n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #241
Makes Me Wonder RobinA Oct 2013 #281
Well, if you read the OP, you might get a pretty good idea of why someone who believes Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #293
If I ate raw vegan food, HappyMe Oct 2013 #14
The "raw" part is what I don't get. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #24
Yeah, I'm not eating algae or tofu. HappyMe Oct 2013 #25
There's really nothing strange about tofu. Codeine Oct 2013 #32
It's not strange; it just doesn't taste very good. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #34
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Knitting. uppityperson Oct 2013 #116
You can have my share. HappyMe Oct 2013 #36
It can be flavorless, sort of like an egg white, I guess. Codeine Oct 2013 #39
Exactly. I never eat tofu on its own. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #50
OK, as much as I ridicule vegans, firm tofu can be really really good. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #57
I like tofu but it is not Raw as the OP advocates uppityperson Oct 2013 #98
Raw foodism is fucking stupid. Codeine Oct 2013 #102
Yup. Homo sapiens are not cows. uppityperson Oct 2013 #104
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Studying 3rd century history. uppityperson Oct 2013 #156
I'm trollin' n they tryna catch me fightin' dirty NuclearDem Oct 2013 #166
Yep, and some nutrients are more available via cooking. GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #207
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Pressing flowers. uppityperson Oct 2013 #106
Good grief! HappyMe Oct 2013 #113
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Oh, you're back! HappyMe Oct 2013 #318
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Do you not have better things to do? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #319
I wish you lived near me. Codeine Oct 2013 #111
I'm sure they are good. HappyMe Oct 2013 #120
Vegan cupcakes?! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #122
No problem. I'll get the info this afternoon. Nt Codeine Oct 2013 #125
Me, too!! chervilant Oct 2013 #218
My I have the cupcake recipe too? BuddhaGirl Oct 2013 #239
There was a raw food restaurant near my house sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #255
I love lima beans, both fresh and dried. MineralMan Oct 2013 #61
You should read "A Lesbian Appetite" by Dorothy Allison. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #63
Oof. I'm so far behind in my reading that I doubt MineralMan Oct 2013 #67
It's a story about comfort foods. Southern comfort foods. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #68
Ah...then maybe I'll look for the book. MineralMan Oct 2013 #73
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Huh. Deranged minerals? Huh. How do you feel about drones? Stamp collecting. uppityperson Oct 2013 #103
Nice to see you again maddezmom Oct 2013 #127
To be fair, I started it this time. Trying to come up with a more positive hobby for her. uppityperson Oct 2013 #144
LOL maddezmom Oct 2013 #151
And....She is. uppityperson Oct 2013 #157
Tatting might be a good suggestion! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2013 #155
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Stay classy LG maddezmom Oct 2013 #161
Tatting struck a nerve? uppityperson Oct 2013 #163
I guess maddezmom Oct 2013 #170
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The OP presented a point of view. That person may be opposed to some sources of food, regardless bluestate10 Oct 2013 #204
Please understand that not all vegans Codeine Oct 2013 #16
I'm not seeing any woo there. EOTE Oct 2013 #27
Here's a few examples of woo from the OP mathematic Oct 2013 #49
Cows really aren't a natural species. EOTE Oct 2013 #56
Then dogs and cats are even more "unnatural." nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #59
At least as unnatural. EOTE Oct 2013 #62
That's the opening mathematic Oct 2013 #78
At what point is something unnatural? EOTE Oct 2013 #81
Eyeglasses are unnatural. trotsky Oct 2013 #108
Yes, all those things are unnatural. EOTE Oct 2013 #123
Your defensiveness confirms my thoughts. trotsky Oct 2013 #130
MY defensiveness? EOTE Oct 2013 #134
Yep, yours. trotsky Oct 2013 #140
So, not even going to attempt to provide one of my "judgements"? EOTE Oct 2013 #143
The most glaring one is judging me to be anti-science, which is incredibly laughable. trotsky Oct 2013 #147
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #148
Don't Overlook RobinA Oct 2013 #177
Here... Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #295
We know that. But, since you are Sissyk Oct 2013 #70
“Animals are my friends...and I don't eat my friends.” - George Bernard Shaw REP Oct 2013 #200
what about insects? snooper2 Oct 2013 #323
No thank you. Food is more than just politics cali Oct 2013 #18
I've been vegetarian for decades and have been extraordinarily healthy. Zorra Oct 2013 #22
If turning your diet into a giant "FUCK YOU" is a big priority in your life... Silent3 Oct 2013 #28
I think the ultimate goal is to turn one's life into a giant "FUCK YOU" directed at various... JVS Oct 2013 #263
One could say that the goal of the Democratic Party is a giant FU Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #296
Being vegan is difficult Joel thakkar Oct 2013 #30
It's a breeze once you've done it for a few weeks. Codeine Oct 2013 #203
The internet responds.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #35
Spot the Vegan. alphafemale Oct 2013 #242
Mitchell and Webb... SidDithers Oct 2013 #37
LOL, that was funny. You actually made me laugh, for a first. closeupready Oct 2013 #80
"It's an ethical thing. I don't think humans should be treated like this." FSogol Oct 2013 #90
That was excellent! HappyMe Oct 2013 #101
good post except the meat part. tillikum Oct 2013 #42
Is it a protein issue? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #66
They do not however taste like ribeye.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #83
It can be an iron absorbtion issue as well. wickerwoman Oct 2013 #178
I know how that goes. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #182
Iron deficiency is less of a problem for vegans than for vegetarians. athena Oct 2013 #237
im really sensitive to lectins as they arent really a genomic food for me. tillikum Oct 2013 #192
impossible? bunnies Oct 2013 #91
Pretty much, yeah. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #124
It drives me nuts when people imply that vegans are scrawny weaklings. bunnies Oct 2013 #136
I think it's because of the myth that protein only comes in sufficient quantities from meat. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #141
Or that damn protien powder. bunnies Oct 2013 #145
I don't find that attractive at all. HappyMe Oct 2013 #128
I think ripped is nice but theres such a thing as too big. bunnies Oct 2013 #131
Those guys eat vegans? HappyMe Oct 2013 #132
lol. bunnies Oct 2013 #138
Steroids are vegan? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #172
Theyre all vegan. bunnies Oct 2013 #191
built like number 2 but probably taller and no tillikum Oct 2013 #193
Diet aside... bunnies Oct 2013 #225
There's a vegan bodybuilder who posts here Codeine Oct 2013 #117
its really hard as a chicken/turkey/beef eater too! tillikum Oct 2013 #194
Is that me? flvegan Oct 2013 #212
thats ok. my workout partner is an ex-SO1 SEAL and 4 days a week tillikum Oct 2013 #215
I feel bad for them. flvegan Oct 2013 #224
problem with sterotypes is tillikum Oct 2013 #226
You're not gonna convert me, fellas--I didn't climb to the top of the food chain Arkana Oct 2013 #43
... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #45
Thank you for writing this so I don't have to. If I could rec 1 post here, you would get it. I'd lik uppityperson Oct 2013 #100
k&r your post definitely deserves it idwiyo Oct 2013 #206
+1 n/t Silent3 Oct 2013 #282
+1 n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #294
Whenever I see "detoxification", but bullshit meter goes off hard taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #46
That's what we grew up eating. Codeine Oct 2013 #69
i enjoy and steak and veggie burgers\chikn patties dionysus Oct 2013 #184
We have been eating GMO for 20 years -- where is the damage? KurtNYC Oct 2013 #47
Thank you for this. Silent3 Oct 2013 #283
If you cook your food, Monsanto wins. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #48
Fire is a tool of the oppressor. Brickbat Oct 2013 #52
This thread is hilarious Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #160
If I wanted to eat only raw heirloom organic vegan, I'd have to truck so much stuff to where I Brickbat Oct 2013 #53
no way i could/would eat like that. :shrug: Scout Oct 2013 #58
So you think the same number of animals are slaughtered regardless of demand? athena Oct 2013 #238
I find that vegetables taste the same whether or not they are accompanied by meat. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #297
I like food. Iggo Oct 2013 #64
Sorry, there is no vegan substitute to the Carl's Jr. Western Bacon Cheeseburger for a hangover. Throd Oct 2013 #74
Do you REALLY respond, "where the FUCK do you think cows get their protein" closeupready Oct 2013 #76
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Bird watching. uppityperson Oct 2013 #121
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #126
Oh hell no. Trying to help you find a new positive hobby. Folk dancing. uppityperson Oct 2013 #129
You'd think there would be all kinds of things to do at the library BainsBane Oct 2013 #133
Seriously. Distinct lack of imagination too. uppityperson Oct 2013 #135
"vegan till 6" here :) davekriss Oct 2013 #84
Raw foodism is stupid. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #93
Nope, won't bother with the science on this one nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #95
Organic foods cause Autism... SidDithers Oct 2013 #96
Yeah, right...I suppose you're gonna tell us wind power causes cancer too? n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #149
you won't be laughing when a broken turbine blade flies 10 miles through 9 feet of hail and dionysus Oct 2013 #176
Lol! whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #183
It's clearly there in the data! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #187
+1 n/t Silent3 Oct 2013 #284
!!!! Kali Dec 2014 #338
Hehehe... SidDithers Dec 2014 #339
Why are vegans so boring? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #99
I once saw a post here, long ago, claiming vegans' feces smells better than non-vegan. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #180
It's probably our silica deficiencies. JoeyT Oct 2013 #220
Oh, you hang with the wrong vegans! handmade34 Oct 2013 #229
you don't cook anything, huh quinnox Oct 2013 #114
I like to eat raw beef and fish. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #119
"Pork is laden with parasitic worms and/or their eggs."... yawnmaster Oct 2013 #137
I'm vegetarian but I like cooked food! Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #146
I agree that is the ultimate, however doing as much of that as works for you now gollygee Oct 2013 #150
I guess I'm an odd duck tavernier Oct 2013 #152
There is nothing wrong with cooking one's food. Raw ain't necessary. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #153
Are you kidding? Rice straight from the bag is awesome! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #164
Like corn nuts, but with more dental damage. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #260
While I may not agree with every point made in the OP, cui bono Oct 2013 #158
+1 handmade34 Oct 2013 #230
"Food is Politics" RobinA Oct 2013 #162
Sorry, I am going "mostly vegetarian" and even that is tough Taverner Oct 2013 #173
Eating cooked organic heirloom would not be? This raw food veganism is probably unhealthy. thereismore Oct 2013 #181
Cooking is a conspiracy foisted on us by the utility companies. JVS Oct 2013 #262
I see where you are coming from... However Glassunion Oct 2013 #185
+1 nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #271
How does the organic heirloom vegan I'm supposed to eat, feel about that? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #186
"meant" to digest meat? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #188
74-Year Old Raw Vegan Icon Mimi Kirk solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #189
Wonder what she would look like if she hadn't eaten meat in her first 30 years of life- snooper2 Oct 2013 #324
I'm glad you can AFFORD IT! Texasgal Oct 2013 #195
When I study them, I find organic food and produce people to be part of a small world They are bluestate10 Oct 2013 #205
I've been doing that for years except the "raw" part.. because it makes Cha Oct 2013 #196
Clinton admitted he's not vegan/vegetarian FunkyLeprechaun Oct 2013 #286
Yeah, saw a later ariticle about him Cha Oct 2013 #289
As if there isn't an organic food industry. Whole foods is run by a capitalist sociopath JVS Oct 2013 #198
Whole Foods is grossly misnamed. cui bono Oct 2013 #244
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What the hell? What would someone say to that to get auto-removed? cui bono Oct 2013 #249
I missed it too. JVS Oct 2013 #259
Nothing you just mentioned is incompatible with the development of an industry. JVS Oct 2013 #258
You're right. But at least if we keep it local we can try to not have it so corporate cui bono Oct 2013 #264
I must also add Texasgal Oct 2013 #199
Glad that is working for you. Please stop trying to assert you are a better person. alphafemale Oct 2013 #201
Many people aren't constituted to eat like the OP. I am a person that can't eat that way. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #209
I felt like I was losing my mind going without meat alphafemale Oct 2013 #210
While some people seem to be going gluten-free for no good reason, there are many Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #299
Celiac disease affects at least 3 million Americans handmade34 Oct 2013 #306
Fine. It is like Diabetes or Lactose Intolerance or a food allergy. alphafemale Oct 2013 #308
When I go 100% vegetarian Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #280
Humans are an unnatural species, the result of crossbreeding and hybridization, omnivores more uppityperson Oct 2013 #208
your post deserves k&r idwiyo Oct 2013 #211
The problem with meat, health wise, is what we feed the meat Taverner Oct 2013 #243
"what we feed the meat" handmade34 Oct 2013 #307
Ever notice how defensive they get? flvegan Oct 2013 #213
LOL your headline just broke me up... Ellipsis Oct 2013 #214
Grass-fed, grass-finished beef is one of the healthiest foods you can eat. TroubleMan Oct 2013 #216
agree handmade34 Oct 2013 #231
Not true. Please don't spread mis-information. athena Oct 2013 #233
Actually it is - it's not misinformation TroubleMan Oct 2013 #245
Stating something does not make it true. athena Oct 2013 #247
I'm just not sure that a strict vegan diet is nutritionally optimal for all humans. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #272
We just bought 1/4 grass fed beef... all told it was about $4.50/lb. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #261
I didn't know LWolf Oct 2013 #219
"If I were a sociopathic capitalist..." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #223
Awesome OP! Me and my wife just went vegan workinclasszero Oct 2013 #228
Congratulations! athena Oct 2013 #234
I saw Vegucated too workinclasszero Oct 2013 #267
Well said and thank you. MuseRider Oct 2013 #232
I prefer to enjoy food when I eat. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #235
Enjoying our food is the reason we switched to a plant-based diet. athena Oct 2013 #246
My point: I don't want a plant - based diet. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #250
Your point: you don't want any input. athena Oct 2013 #270
Those of us that know this and have switched because of health reasons solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #274
Some of us raise and hunt our own meat/eggs, etc. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #288
Add home grown and you have a trifecta. n/t BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #253
OMG, i will never give up meat! :p darkangel218 Oct 2013 #254
basic biological literacy fail.... mike_c Oct 2013 #257
+1 n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #290
Sorry I need my sanity.... whistler162 Oct 2013 #266
If you KNOW your chickens are happy and free range mainer Oct 2013 #273
eat all the eggs and whatever else you want solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #275
Whoa!!! darkangel218 Oct 2013 #279
I don't want to pay for yours either. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #298
That's the thing about diets... Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #303
That's generally my approach. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #310
I don't have any cholesterol issues because I don't eat anything containing cholesterol solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #304
This message was self-deleted by its author Gore1FL Oct 2013 #309
Your body creates it's own cholesteral Gore1FL Oct 2013 #311
Absolutely true. mainer Oct 2013 #313
Seeing as my cholesterol is freakishly low mainer Oct 2013 #312
I guess that depends on if you believe life begins at conception snooper2 Oct 2013 #325
I'm not deficient in any of those nutrients. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #285
Pace Yourselves, People! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #301
I like the FU to corporate America, but there is not one diet that is right for every person. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #302
Anthropologists believe cooking = civilization mainer Oct 2013 #314
And then you can also TransitJohn Oct 2013 #315
Vegetarian rec. undeterred Oct 2013 #316
Nothing as delicious as raw cassava root. Cooking just spoils its taste! mainer Oct 2013 #321
... idwiyo Oct 2013 #327
Although there is truth to much of what you assert MrsMatt Oct 2013 #326
That article is silly. StrayKat Oct 2013 #328
The OP's list of protein sources included quinoa. MrsMatt Oct 2013 #329
The original post is kind of silly and sensational, too. StrayKat Oct 2013 #330
Meh good for you shedevil69taz Oct 2013 #331
To each his own tabbycat31 Oct 2013 #332
Are you a 30BAD follower? StrayKat Oct 2013 #333
I eat meat, but I usually eat a Paleo-diet. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #337
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