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Eating heirloom raw organic vegan is the ultimate FUCK YOU to corporate America. [View all] livingwagenow Oct 2013 OP

Are we are allowed to eat cheese? nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #1

As a vegan, I don't. Instead, give soy, almond or rice cheese a try... livingwagenow Oct 2013 #2

They can taste good... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #9

I have tried it and I didn't like it. The consistency is weird. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #26

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If being a vegan is so great Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #55

good point. n/t Scout Oct 2013 #60

That's actually a fair question. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #75

I have the opposite feeling about the raw diet Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #222

Because there's money to be made selling those things. Mariana Oct 2013 #89

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because handmade34 Oct 2013 #168

Because StrayKat Oct 2013 #251

Ask me that question after you've been served loose corn on a bun at a barbecue. nt yewberry Oct 2013 #268

Or, you could worry about what's on your own fork Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #190

You are replying here to what the OP author wrote in reply to someone asking a question. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #291

Okay, awesome for you. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #300

Nice lecture. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #334

Thanks! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #336

Nut cheese Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #221

Even after being a vegan for 25 years I'm not mature enough to see the term "nut cheese" Codeine Oct 2013 #256

There's that, too! Dorian Gray Oct 2013 #276

Vegetarian diets allow it. SamYeager Oct 2013 #3

It would not be especially difficult for me to go vegetarian. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #4

It's entirely possible to create delicious vegan food. MineralMan Oct 2013 #5

I have no doubt that it's possible to prepare tasty vegan meals. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #10

Well, genuine raw food vegans are extremely limited in MineralMan Oct 2013 #20

My favorite Vegan dishes are Indian SamYeager Oct 2013 #82

Indian cuisine is one I've never reallly explored. MineralMan Oct 2013 #86

Try cooking them yourself. SamYeager Oct 2013 #88

But make sure you open every window in the house Codeine Oct 2013 #107

I never turn on a burner without turning on the hood vent first, regardless of what I am cooking. SamYeager Oct 2013 #110

Are you familiar with Lisa's Vegetarian Kitchen? Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #278

Oh MineralMan handmade34 Oct 2013 #171

Some of my favorite foods are vegetarian or vegan Greek foods ... REP Oct 2013 #197

Aloo gobi is one of the great dishes on earth. Codeine Oct 2013 #202

Indian food is WONDERFUL. Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #277

Not all plant-based dishes taste that way. athena Oct 2013 #236

Especially if you move to South America! Coyotl Oct 2013 #6

Interesting how that word salad contains no reference to enjoying food. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #7

If food isn't political why are food giants spending huge amounts.. livingwagenow Oct 2013 #11

That's economics, not politics. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #13

I love food and love eating Codeine Oct 2013 #19

My enjoyment of what I eat increased when I went vegan whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #29

"I like vegetables" is a rarely cited reason for being a vegan Retrograde Oct 2013 #142

Lol, StrayKat Oct 2013 #252

... handmade34 Oct 2013 #175

"Food is politics." Yes, it is. noamnety Oct 2013 #227

There is a political aspect to much if not all of life. Clearly, Monsanto's power and influencea Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #292

Is word salad vegan? I hear it comes from animals. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #305

Whatever! hobbit709 Oct 2013 #8

AutoVeganRec. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #12

Great list! 2 really stands out but all points are so, so true! livingwagenow Oct 2013 #15

And that, friends, is why there aren't all that many vegans. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #17

I don't shame or get a bug up my ass when it comes to this, though. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #21

Every vegan I'm aware of IRL is a sanctimonious asshole. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #54

I know what you mean. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #71

...while they were gently pulled from the ground by Maya Angelou.... dionysus Oct 2013 #167

On the reverse side of that coin, chervilant Oct 2013 #217

That isn't analogous to what I said in the least. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #240

Analogous? chervilant Oct 2013 #265

A doctor saying that you need a triple bypass often does though.. livingwagenow Oct 2013 #23

Dunno about Dreamer, but I was in pre-hypertension. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #287

I guess that depends on a person's development of conscience and ability to empathize. Zorra Oct 2013 #31

Now that's an interesting response - el_bryanto Oct 2013 #33

No. Just that some people are more sensitive to acts of cruelty than others are, and that Zorra Oct 2013 #40

Well in fairness to the Republicanoids - many of them believed that we were insensitive to Saddams el_bryanto Oct 2013 #41

Yes, I believe that human beings should be sensitive to the suffering we cause to each other and the Zorra Oct 2013 #51

I think the Iraq war was a mistake if that's what you are asking. Slaughter's a pretty loaded word. el_bryanto Oct 2013 #65

Sorry, your question is rhetorical. How is it *genuinely* relevant to this conversation? nt Zorra Oct 2013 #72

Interesting response el_bryanto Oct 2013 #79

Still rhetorical. Yes, it is your choice to eat meat from animals that were tortured Zorra Oct 2013 #85

Ah - did I pass your little test? nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #87

No. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #109

Story of my life. nt el_bryanto Oct 2013 #115

You Are RobinA Oct 2013 #174

*sigh* Zorra Oct 2013 #322

Seemed to me the poster was merely comparing the conscious and inhumane deaths we in one instance, r LanternWaste Oct 2013 #335

You're really not helping. NT Codeine Oct 2013 #38

Yeah. HappyMe Oct 2013 #44

doesn't sound like shaming handmade34 Oct 2013 #179

Seems like most of that is againsy Factory Farming. Do you include factory veg farming? uppityperson Oct 2013 #94

Absolutely. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #118

Vegans RobinA Oct 2013 #165

In a way it's no different than any cause that's not well understood. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #169

Makes you wonder about what? n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #241

Makes Me Wonder RobinA Oct 2013 #281

Well, if you read the OP, you might get a pretty good idea of why someone who believes Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #293

If I ate raw vegan food, HappyMe Oct 2013 #14

The "raw" part is what I don't get. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #24

Yeah, I'm not eating algae or tofu. HappyMe Oct 2013 #25

There's really nothing strange about tofu. Codeine Oct 2013 #32

It's not strange; it just doesn't taste very good. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #34

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Knitting. uppityperson Oct 2013 #116

You can have my share. HappyMe Oct 2013 #36

It can be flavorless, sort of like an egg white, I guess. Codeine Oct 2013 #39

Exactly. I never eat tofu on its own. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #50

OK, as much as I ridicule vegans, firm tofu can be really really good. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #57

I like tofu but it is not Raw as the OP advocates uppityperson Oct 2013 #98

Raw foodism is fucking stupid. Codeine Oct 2013 #102

Yup. Homo sapiens are not cows. uppityperson Oct 2013 #104

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Studying 3rd century history. uppityperson Oct 2013 #156

I'm trollin' n they tryna catch me fightin' dirty NuclearDem Oct 2013 #166

Yep, and some nutrients are more available via cooking. GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #207

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Pressing flowers. uppityperson Oct 2013 #106

Good grief! HappyMe Oct 2013 #113

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Oh, you're back! HappyMe Oct 2013 #318

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Do you not have better things to do? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #319

I wish you lived near me. Codeine Oct 2013 #111

I'm sure they are good. HappyMe Oct 2013 #120

Vegan cupcakes?! NuclearDem Oct 2013 #122

No problem. I'll get the info this afternoon. Nt Codeine Oct 2013 #125

Me, too!! chervilant Oct 2013 #218

My I have the cupcake recipe too? BuddhaGirl Oct 2013 #239

There was a raw food restaurant near my house sweetloukillbot Oct 2013 #255

I love lima beans, both fresh and dried. MineralMan Oct 2013 #61

You should read "A Lesbian Appetite" by Dorothy Allison. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #63

Oof. I'm so far behind in my reading that I doubt MineralMan Oct 2013 #67

It's a story about comfort foods. Southern comfort foods. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #68

Ah...then maybe I'll look for the book. MineralMan Oct 2013 #73

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Huh. Deranged minerals? Huh. How do you feel about drones? Stamp collecting. uppityperson Oct 2013 #103

Nice to see you again maddezmom Oct 2013 #127

To be fair, I started it this time. Trying to come up with a more positive hobby for her. uppityperson Oct 2013 #144

LOL maddezmom Oct 2013 #151

And....She is. uppityperson Oct 2013 #157

Tatting might be a good suggestion! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2013 #155

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Stay classy LG maddezmom Oct 2013 #161

Tatting struck a nerve? uppityperson Oct 2013 #163

I guess maddezmom Oct 2013 #170

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The OP presented a point of view. That person may be opposed to some sources of food, regardless bluestate10 Oct 2013 #204

Please understand that not all vegans Codeine Oct 2013 #16

I'm not seeing any woo there. EOTE Oct 2013 #27

Here's a few examples of woo from the OP mathematic Oct 2013 #49

Cows really aren't a natural species. EOTE Oct 2013 #56

Then dogs and cats are even more "unnatural." nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #59

At least as unnatural. EOTE Oct 2013 #62

That's the opening mathematic Oct 2013 #78

At what point is something unnatural? EOTE Oct 2013 #81

Eyeglasses are unnatural. trotsky Oct 2013 #108

Yes, all those things are unnatural. EOTE Oct 2013 #123

Your defensiveness confirms my thoughts. trotsky Oct 2013 #130

MY defensiveness? EOTE Oct 2013 #134

Yep, yours. trotsky Oct 2013 #140

So, not even going to attempt to provide one of my "judgements"? EOTE Oct 2013 #143

The most glaring one is judging me to be anti-science, which is incredibly laughable. trotsky Oct 2013 #147

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Don't Overlook RobinA Oct 2013 #177

Here... Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #295

We know that. But, since you are Sissyk Oct 2013 #70

“Animals are my friends...and I don't eat my friends.” - George Bernard Shaw REP Oct 2013 #200

what about insects? snooper2 Oct 2013 #323

No thank you. Food is more than just politics cali Oct 2013 #18

I've been vegetarian for decades and have been extraordinarily healthy. Zorra Oct 2013 #22

If turning your diet into a giant "FUCK YOU" is a big priority in your life... Silent3 Oct 2013 #28

I think the ultimate goal is to turn one's life into a giant "FUCK YOU" directed at various... JVS Oct 2013 #263

One could say that the goal of the Democratic Party is a giant FU Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #296

Being vegan is difficult Joel thakkar Oct 2013 #30

It's a breeze once you've done it for a few weeks. Codeine Oct 2013 #203

The internet responds.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #35

Spot the Vegan. alphafemale Oct 2013 #242

Mitchell and Webb... SidDithers Oct 2013 #37

LOL, that was funny. You actually made me laugh, for a first. closeupready Oct 2013 #80

"It's an ethical thing. I don't think humans should be treated like this." FSogol Oct 2013 #90

That was excellent! HappyMe Oct 2013 #101

good post except the meat part. tillikum Oct 2013 #42

Is it a protein issue? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #66

They do not however taste like ribeye.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #83

It can be an iron absorbtion issue as well. wickerwoman Oct 2013 #178

I know how that goes. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #182

Iron deficiency is less of a problem for vegans than for vegetarians. athena Oct 2013 #237

im really sensitive to lectins as they arent really a genomic food for me. tillikum Oct 2013 #192

impossible? bunnies Oct 2013 #91

Pretty much, yeah. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #124

It drives me nuts when people imply that vegans are scrawny weaklings. bunnies Oct 2013 #136

I think it's because of the myth that protein only comes in sufficient quantities from meat. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #141

Or that damn protien powder. bunnies Oct 2013 #145

I don't find that attractive at all. HappyMe Oct 2013 #128

I think ripped is nice but theres such a thing as too big. bunnies Oct 2013 #131

Those guys eat vegans? HappyMe Oct 2013 #132

lol. bunnies Oct 2013 #138

Steroids are vegan? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #172

Theyre all vegan. bunnies Oct 2013 #191

built like number 2 but probably taller and no tillikum Oct 2013 #193

Diet aside... bunnies Oct 2013 #225

There's a vegan bodybuilder who posts here Codeine Oct 2013 #117

its really hard as a chicken/turkey/beef eater too! tillikum Oct 2013 #194

Is that me? flvegan Oct 2013 #212

thats ok. my workout partner is an ex-SO1 SEAL and 4 days a week tillikum Oct 2013 #215

I feel bad for them. flvegan Oct 2013 #224

problem with sterotypes is tillikum Oct 2013 #226

You're not gonna convert me, fellas--I didn't climb to the top of the food chain Arkana Oct 2013 #43

... Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #45

Thank you for writing this so I don't have to. If I could rec 1 post here, you would get it. I'd lik uppityperson Oct 2013 #100

k&r your post definitely deserves it idwiyo Oct 2013 #206

+1 n/t Silent3 Oct 2013 #282

+1 n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #294

Whenever I see "detoxification", but bullshit meter goes off hard taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #46

That's what we grew up eating. Codeine Oct 2013 #69

i enjoy and steak and veggie burgers\chikn patties dionysus Oct 2013 #184

We have been eating GMO for 20 years -- where is the damage? KurtNYC Oct 2013 #47

Thank you for this. Silent3 Oct 2013 #283

If you cook your food, Monsanto wins. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #48

Fire is a tool of the oppressor. Brickbat Oct 2013 #52

This thread is hilarious Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #160

If I wanted to eat only raw heirloom organic vegan, I'd have to truck so much stuff to where I Brickbat Oct 2013 #53

no way i could/would eat like that. :shrug: Scout Oct 2013 #58

So you think the same number of animals are slaughtered regardless of demand? athena Oct 2013 #238

I find that vegetables taste the same whether or not they are accompanied by meat. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #297

I like food. Iggo Oct 2013 #64

Sorry, there is no vegan substitute to the Carl's Jr. Western Bacon Cheeseburger for a hangover. Throd Oct 2013 #74

Do you REALLY respond, "where the FUCK do you think cows get their protein" closeupready Oct 2013 #76

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Bird watching. uppityperson Oct 2013 #121

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Oh hell no. Trying to help you find a new positive hobby. Folk dancing. uppityperson Oct 2013 #129

You'd think there would be all kinds of things to do at the library BainsBane Oct 2013 #133

Seriously. Distinct lack of imagination too. uppityperson Oct 2013 #135

"vegan till 6" here :) davekriss Oct 2013 #84

Raw foodism is stupid. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #93

Nope, won't bother with the science on this one nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #95

Organic foods cause Autism... SidDithers Oct 2013 #96

Yeah, right...I suppose you're gonna tell us wind power causes cancer too? n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #149

you won't be laughing when a broken turbine blade flies 10 miles through 9 feet of hail and dionysus Oct 2013 #176

Lol! whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #183

It's clearly there in the data! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #187

+1 n/t Silent3 Oct 2013 #284

!!!! Kali Dec 2014 #338

Hehehe... SidDithers Dec 2014 #339

Why are vegans so boring? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #99

I once saw a post here, long ago, claiming vegans' feces smells better than non-vegan. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2013 #180

It's probably our silica deficiencies. JoeyT Oct 2013 #220

Oh, you hang with the wrong vegans! handmade34 Oct 2013 #229

you don't cook anything, huh quinnox Oct 2013 #114

I like to eat raw beef and fish. aikoaiko Oct 2013 #119

"Pork is laden with parasitic worms and/or their eggs."... yawnmaster Oct 2013 #137

I'm vegetarian but I like cooked food! Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #146

I agree that is the ultimate, however doing as much of that as works for you now gollygee Oct 2013 #150

I guess I'm an odd duck tavernier Oct 2013 #152

There is nothing wrong with cooking one's food. Raw ain't necessary. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #153

Are you kidding? Rice straight from the bag is awesome! Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #164

Like corn nuts, but with more dental damage. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #260

While I may not agree with every point made in the OP, cui bono Oct 2013 #158

+1 handmade34 Oct 2013 #230

"Food is Politics" RobinA Oct 2013 #162

Sorry, I am going "mostly vegetarian" and even that is tough Taverner Oct 2013 #173

Eating cooked organic heirloom would not be? This raw food veganism is probably unhealthy. thereismore Oct 2013 #181

Cooking is a conspiracy foisted on us by the utility companies. JVS Oct 2013 #262

I see where you are coming from... However Glassunion Oct 2013 #185

+1 nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #271

How does the organic heirloom vegan I'm supposed to eat, feel about that? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #186

"meant" to digest meat? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #188

74-Year Old Raw Vegan Icon Mimi Kirk solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #189

Wonder what she would look like if she hadn't eaten meat in her first 30 years of life- snooper2 Oct 2013 #324

I'm glad you can AFFORD IT! Texasgal Oct 2013 #195

When I study them, I find organic food and produce people to be part of a small world They are bluestate10 Oct 2013 #205

I've been doing that for years except the "raw" part.. because it makes Cha Oct 2013 #196

Clinton admitted he's not vegan/vegetarian FunkyLeprechaun Oct 2013 #286

Yeah, saw a later ariticle about him Cha Oct 2013 #289

As if there isn't an organic food industry. Whole foods is run by a capitalist sociopath JVS Oct 2013 #198

Whole Foods is grossly misnamed. cui bono Oct 2013 #244

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What the hell? What would someone say to that to get auto-removed? cui bono Oct 2013 #249

I missed it too. JVS Oct 2013 #259

Nothing you just mentioned is incompatible with the development of an industry. JVS Oct 2013 #258

You're right. But at least if we keep it local we can try to not have it so corporate cui bono Oct 2013 #264

I must also add Texasgal Oct 2013 #199

Glad that is working for you. Please stop trying to assert you are a better person. alphafemale Oct 2013 #201

Many people aren't constituted to eat like the OP. I am a person that can't eat that way. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #209

I felt like I was losing my mind going without meat alphafemale Oct 2013 #210

While some people seem to be going gluten-free for no good reason, there are many Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #299

Celiac disease affects at least 3 million Americans handmade34 Oct 2013 #306

Fine. It is like Diabetes or Lactose Intolerance or a food allergy. alphafemale Oct 2013 #308

When I go 100% vegetarian Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #280

Humans are an unnatural species, the result of crossbreeding and hybridization, omnivores more uppityperson Oct 2013 #208

your post deserves k&r idwiyo Oct 2013 #211

The problem with meat, health wise, is what we feed the meat Taverner Oct 2013 #243

"what we feed the meat" handmade34 Oct 2013 #307

Ever notice how defensive they get? flvegan Oct 2013 #213

LOL your headline just broke me up... Ellipsis Oct 2013 #214

Grass-fed, grass-finished beef is one of the healthiest foods you can eat. TroubleMan Oct 2013 #216

agree handmade34 Oct 2013 #231

Not true. Please don't spread mis-information. athena Oct 2013 #233

Actually it is - it's not misinformation TroubleMan Oct 2013 #245

Stating something does not make it true. athena Oct 2013 #247

I'm just not sure that a strict vegan diet is nutritionally optimal for all humans. nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #272

We just bought 1/4 grass fed beef... all told it was about $4.50/lb. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #261

I didn't know LWolf Oct 2013 #219

"If I were a sociopathic capitalist..." Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #223

Awesome OP! Me and my wife just went vegan workinclasszero Oct 2013 #228

Congratulations! athena Oct 2013 #234

I saw Vegucated too workinclasszero Oct 2013 #267

Well said and thank you. MuseRider Oct 2013 #232

I prefer to enjoy food when I eat. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #235

Enjoying our food is the reason we switched to a plant-based diet. athena Oct 2013 #246

My point: I don't want a plant - based diet. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #250

Your point: you don't want any input. athena Oct 2013 #270

Those of us that know this and have switched because of health reasons solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #274

Some of us raise and hunt our own meat/eggs, etc. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #288

Add home grown and you have a trifecta. n/t BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #253

OMG, i will never give up meat! :p darkangel218 Oct 2013 #254

basic biological literacy fail.... mike_c Oct 2013 #257

+1 n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #290

Sorry I need my sanity.... whistler162 Oct 2013 #266

If you KNOW your chickens are happy and free range mainer Oct 2013 #273

eat all the eggs and whatever else you want solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #275

Whoa!!! darkangel218 Oct 2013 #279

I don't want to pay for yours either. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #298

That's the thing about diets... Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #303

That's generally my approach. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #310

I don't have any cholesterol issues because I don't eat anything containing cholesterol solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #304

This message was self-deleted by its author Gore1FL Oct 2013 #309

Your body creates it's own cholesteral Gore1FL Oct 2013 #311

Absolutely true. mainer Oct 2013 #313

Seeing as my cholesterol is freakishly low mainer Oct 2013 #312

I guess that depends on if you believe life begins at conception snooper2 Oct 2013 #325

I'm not deficient in any of those nutrients. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #285

Pace Yourselves, People! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #301

I like the FU to corporate America, but there is not one diet that is right for every person. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #302

Anthropologists believe cooking = civilization mainer Oct 2013 #314

And then you can also TransitJohn Oct 2013 #315

Vegetarian rec. undeterred Oct 2013 #316

Nothing as delicious as raw cassava root. Cooking just spoils its taste! mainer Oct 2013 #321

... idwiyo Oct 2013 #327

Although there is truth to much of what you assert MrsMatt Oct 2013 #326

That article is silly. StrayKat Oct 2013 #328

The OP's list of protein sources included quinoa. MrsMatt Oct 2013 #329

The original post is kind of silly and sensational, too. StrayKat Oct 2013 #330

Meh good for you shedevil69taz Oct 2013 #331

To each his own tabbycat31 Oct 2013 #332

Are you a 30BAD follower? StrayKat Oct 2013 #333

I eat meat, but I usually eat a Paleo-diet. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #337