Slavery, the Rebel flag and the shutdown

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14. W/O secession, there wouldn't have been a war in the first place.

Supporting secession is the same as causing the war. While the North did indeed enthusiastically fight for the Union by and large, they wouldn't have had to go to war if the South hadn't caused one. The bloodiest in our history, btw. Please explain how Pol Pot et al were/was any worse than the whole damned Confederacy leadership? The North didn't want war. The South did and dragged them into it by seceding and incidentally firing the first shots.

Whitewash that if you can.
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Oh, and one other thing. Southern apologists can't legitimately deny that much of the present South has a large contingent of very sincere and serious secessionists in waiting, with various similar pockets scattered across the country. Let them try it again if they're that stupid. Let them try, and they'll find out what fools they are in short order. People who don't want to see that movie again (although it would be a short) have not only a right but a duty to righteous indignation.