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Egalitarian Thug

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55. Bingo! It's all a byproduct of the fantasy world that Americans live in.

Mon Oct 21, 2013, 01:43 PM

Oct 2013

My epiphany came decades ago when I saw some film that was shot during Ansel Adams' trip down the Colorado River to shoot the Grand Canyon series. These guys were in their 40's - 50's and in the breaking/setting camp shots were not wearing their shirts and they had the bodies that we associate today with athletes and models.

We eat way too much and move far too little, then we top that by driving ourselves beyond reason on a daily basis and take on stress, then shovel huge piles of greasy crap into our bodies trying to fill the lack of satisfaction most of us feel.

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What if using size zero models to sell clothes is totally wrong? [View all] KurtNYC Oct 2013 OP

They also need to use some older models SheilaT Oct 2013 #1

I agree! redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #2

Elastic waist pipi_k Oct 2013 #5

I can't afford to buy clothes anymore cali Oct 2013 #9

HAHAHA! Rainngirl Oct 2013 #76

They actually need to design clothing for the variety of larger body types - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #77

I'd like to see some classic styles, and not just "fad" clothing targeted to very young women. winter is coming Oct 2013 #59

Skin cream ads are so funny - as if those twenty-year-olds have wrinkles in the first place! polichick Oct 2013 #68

I always end up cursing pipi_k Oct 2013 #3

What irritates me ... Myrina Oct 2013 #24

Do you find pipi_k Oct 2013 #82

Yes but I figured it was because Myrina Oct 2013 #94

Have you looked at so-called "wide calf" boots? tblue37 Oct 2013 #96

I have these u4ic Oct 2013 #111

Oooh, those ARE cute! Myrina Oct 2013 #113

You're welcome! u4ic Oct 2013 #114

The woman on the left looks normal weight fitman Oct 2013 #4

I think that is part of the problem Marrah_G Oct 2013 #6

You have to be kidding me fitman Oct 2013 #13

Hell. The one on the left might have even been considered... bunnies Oct 2013 #31

Heavy? Only compared to Twiggy, who was pnwmom Oct 2013 #42

I suppose that when I think about the 70's... bunnies Oct 2013 #46

Clothing sizes aren't what they used to be - so true! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #88

Yes! bunnies Oct 2013 #99

It's called "vanity sizing." That's what allowed a still overweight tblue37 Oct 2013 #97

Is that what its called? bunnies Oct 2013 #100

Yep. So do I. nt tblue37 Oct 2013 #102

Try buying patterns and sewing your own... Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #103

Youre so right. bunnies Oct 2013 #108

"nearly all looked (like) the one on the left" -- bullshit. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #54

I was referring to her general weight fitman Oct 2013 #57

and your memory is faulty when it comes to shape Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #58

What a sexist comment fitman Oct 2013 #61

No, you said the shape was typical. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #65

I used the word normal, not typical fitman Oct 2013 #67

I guess you're taking this too seriously. Gormy Cuss Oct 2013 #70

See polichick's comment fitman Oct 2013 #71

I agree with you - when I was growing up in the 70s more women did look... polichick Oct 2013 #66

Thank You Please tell that to poster Gormy Cuss fitman Oct 2013 #69

There were also not nearly the number of overweight kids when we were younger. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #89

No, larger women were there, alright... no name no slogan Oct 2013 #116

Men are also broken down to their looks just as much as women fitman Oct 2013 #15

if you don't believe men aren't objectified as much or more than women tillikum Oct 2013 #21

I agree with you 100% fitman Oct 2013 #23

all good. im not talking about hitting on you, im talking straight sexual assault. tillikum Oct 2013 #27

You must have a face of a god or one heck of a party you are going to fitman Oct 2013 #29

lol. not really. i get told i'm pretty masculine looking though *shrug*. tillikum Oct 2013 #37

You two PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #41

im a giver by nature so...you're welcome! tillikum Oct 2013 #44

Me too! nolabear Oct 2013 #87

Just look at the magazine rack Nevernose Oct 2013 #86

The woman on the left looks perfectly normal to me. RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #19

Here's what a size 0 model looks like: sinkingfeeling Oct 2013 #20

That is foul. Myrina Oct 2013 #25

O_o Triana Oct 2013 #35

This is what you look like after getting out of an NSA prison. L0oniX Oct 2013 #39

So sad! polichick Oct 2013 #72

She looks like a walking skeleton, and Halloween is coming up. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #95

She's probably a 5' 10" size 0; a 5' 4" size 0 would look different FarCenter Oct 2013 #119

She's bigger than my wife NoOneMan Oct 2013 #52

They both look normal weight to me, and to most people, I would imagine. Quantess Oct 2013 #120

Yah, skin and bones... pipi_k Oct 2013 #12

I don't know. Xyzse Oct 2013 #28

That's what I thought. Woman on the left is NOT a "size 0". She may be a size 6, 8 or 10. n/t Triana Oct 2013 #30

I think the disconnect comes from the clothing manufacturers... bunnies Oct 2013 #33

No doubt. I'm a about that size too (4,5,6) Triana Oct 2013 #34

exactly. bunnies Oct 2013 #40

Who gives a fuck about your "taste"? pnwest Oct 2013 #50

Thank you for saying what I was thinking! blue neen Oct 2013 #64

I was bumping around the comments and my comment fitman Oct 2013 #93

"Normal" is not a term that is applicable. Both these women look fine to me. uppityperson Oct 2013 #74

I think the one on the right is just closer. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #78

My thought, as well. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #104

The one on the right looks luscious. roody Oct 2013 #90

The Models are both beautiful in their own right. Even though each person has the right... BlueJazz Oct 2013 #7

Two beautiful women! JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #8

Yeah, the one on the our right is absolutely amazing. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #10

I'm surprised no one noticed the size-ism in the photo Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #11

About the large purse pipi_k Oct 2013 #14

The point is Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #17

Not sure that I understand the staging of that photo out of its original context KurtNYC Oct 2013 #22

you might be over-analyzing the graphic in OP. the model on the right is SELLING more items. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #43

I went and looked at the pics in the link Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #45

I'm also a bit surprised at the staging of the photo enlightenment Oct 2013 #18

No problem with lady on right. Wrap? Don't need no stinking wrap! Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #26

Having women of many body sizes is difficult makes production much more difficult AngryAmish Oct 2013 #16

As a woman who wears a size 18 JoDog Oct 2013 #32

Over wieght is the new normal in the US? Ask a doctor what normal weight is for your size. L0oniX Oct 2013 #36

A lot depends if you are a endomorph, ectomorph etc fitman Oct 2013 #47

Point is that it should be your doctor that tells you ...not some model picture. L0oniX Oct 2013 #49

There is no such thing as endomorph, ectomorph AngryAmish Oct 2013 #83

I was not referring to personality etc-was not even part of the conversation fitman Oct 2013 #84

Bingo! It's all a byproduct of the fantasy world that Americans live in. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Oct 2013 #75

According to the BMI - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #105

Always made sense to me treestar Oct 2013 #38

the irony of size zero... Javaman Oct 2013 #48

what the hell is "size zero?" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #51

I think Olive Oyl probably wears a zero. n/t Cleita Oct 2013 #56

It is like having a guitar amp that goes to 11 KurtNYC Oct 2013 #79

brilliant... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #80

"So why not just, y'know, make Size 2 smaller?" nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #107

After my husband died, I gained weight until I became Cleita Oct 2013 #53

And on Project Runway, when they have a challenge with real sized women, CrispyQ Oct 2013 #91

I remember that guy. Cleita Oct 2013 #92

I don't watch Project Runway but I remember seeing an ad for the show and the "designer" Number23 Oct 2013 #98

Lots of catalogs coming to our house, since my wife orders MineralMan Oct 2013 #60

1) If true, then the problem would have fixed itself cthulu2016 Oct 2013 #62

They represent a fantasy LittleBlue Oct 2013 #63

That was CW but consumer research shows that sales increase when KurtNYC Oct 2013 #81

the one on the right seems to have most of her weight in the thigh and chest areas JI7 Oct 2013 #112

In Hollywood (and some other places), women have breasts like the woman on the right... polichick Oct 2013 #73

k&r Beautiful! idwiyo Oct 2013 #85

The author fails to understand the purpose and messaging of glamour advertising... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #101

...and for some designers, it's both physical apperance and socio-economics Earth_First Oct 2013 #106

This op reminds me DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #109

i'm 72. my first job in '58 was in the garment center. DesertFlower Oct 2013 #110

Remember sample shoes? SoCalDem Oct 2013 #118

lol. my mom was a size 5. DesertFlower Oct 2013 #121

I'll take the one on the right, thanks n/t JesterCS Oct 2013 #115

The one on the left (if she is the zero) would probably have been a sz 10 in my youth SoCalDem Oct 2013 #117