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zazen

(2,978 posts)
18. "maybe it really is a non-toxic environment" and "I'm suspicious"
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:05 AM
Oct 2013

aren't strong assertions, are they? So I'm not sure how I could be "simply wrong."

IHE's aren't discrete entities. There are influences across higher ed in which members of all IHE's participate (or that they contest or resist) that reflect neoliberal values. No institution is free from it.

I study this as part of my work (and I've worked in higher ed for 25 years) and I don't defer to the "Princeton Review"'s methodology and raison d'etre for expertise on anything.

Also, volunteer programs (read Marc Bousquet on academic exploitation) can be used to exploit student labor. I've certainly seen the new movement in student "service learning" twisted in this way at many an institution.

Having said that, if the programs there are consciously resisting 30 years of academic capitalism, that's awesome, especially if they build in the transition-town (sustainability, resilience, whatever we call it) approach of an Oberlin. Every time I hear one more thing about Vermont (and I've met Bernie Sanders at the WH--he's delightful and an inspiration) I seriously consider moving there. But I feel it's more important that we fight the good fight here in North Carolina and look to Vermont as inspiration.

To recap, an entire institution cannot be somehow exempt from academic neoliberalism. Do the kids not use federal student loans? Do the faculty not pursue external federal grants? Could they collectively vote to reinstate tenure as a body if they wanted to? The larger trends in higher ed do not spare individual IHEs. It's like saying your entire town is exempt from capitalism. Can you resist it? HELL YES.

Without tenure, there is no freedom of expression. That part is not a good idea. leveymg Oct 2013 #1
+1. Tenure is ESSENTIAL. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #4
baloney. they have multi year contracts cali Oct 2013 #5
Tenure is basically a guarantee of lifetime employment. It's essential to free expression leveymg Oct 2013 #10
That's exactly what it is. duffyduff Oct 2013 #30
Perhaps the administration at this college at this kiva Oct 2013 #19
It seems that you don't understand the purpose of tenure. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #20
Furthermore, I would add "tenure" does NOT exist in K-12. duffyduff Oct 2013 #29
Which is a deficit. Tenure is not a "lifetime job" and it's not perfect, Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #31
if it's a teaching college, tenure matters less, but I so smell academic capitalism zazen Oct 2013 #6
you're simply wrong. cali Oct 2013 #14
"maybe it really is a non-toxic environment" and "I'm suspicious" zazen Oct 2013 #18
So how do countries such as the UK manage just fine with no concept of "tenure"? Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #8
Do they really? leveymg Oct 2013 #11
That's the intention of tenure, but it isn't always the result. MineralMan Oct 2013 #15
Word gets around about the time-servers. leveymg Oct 2013 #21
Yes, of course. However, tenure is not the do-all it is touted to be. MineralMan Oct 2013 #22
That's no reason to do away with the tenure system. leveymg Oct 2013 #24
Well, since I didn't go into academia, it doesn't really matter to me MineralMan Oct 2013 #25
I'm seeing hard-working tenured folks forced into early retirement now zazen Oct 2013 #27
I made that decision way back in the 1970s. MineralMan Oct 2013 #28
I stopped at "immediately employable" and "no tenure" frazzled Oct 2013 #2
then you stopped too soon. Liberal arts are fundamental to the cali Oct 2013 #7
I didn't say at all they weren't first rate frazzled Oct 2013 #13
that you know family members who don't want to work in far away places cali Oct 2013 #16
I agree, it's a vocational school. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #12
not even close to being true. ack. cali Oct 2013 #17
I don't mean to put the place down, cali. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #23
this series focusing on Vermont that Jim Fallows and other Atlantic cali Oct 2013 #3
Whoa there. What about athletics? Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #9
1977 University of Vermont graduate here! cilla4progress Oct 2013 #26
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