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IdaBriggs

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11. I am not familiar with the Greek system for surrendering children but
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 03:13 PM
Oct 2013

I have recently been made aware of "orphanages" in the Ukraine where children are surrendered if they are born prematurely or have other handicaps, or have parents who lose their rights because of "issues" -- the stories are Not Good. If I understand it correctly, family is such a big deal that these "orphans" are marked as such for the rest of their lives on all official documentation.

We take food availability for granted, but not everyone in the world has the same experience, let alone access to birth control or education. The availability of girl children from China (which used to get a lot of publicity) was a big deal, and we were told (this was over a decade ago) that there was a lot of support for adopting these "abandoned" children because otherwise there lives would be as permanent field workers, with no hope of marriage or children or bettering themselves.

As I said, I don't know about Greece under the austerity situations, but someone recommended googling "greeks abandon children under austerity" and frankly, I can't bring myself to do it.

Most of us in the United States are very lucky; we don't even notice it. The plight of children all over the world is bluntly, terrifying.

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This is starting to smell like racism Egnever Oct 2013 #1
Do you think the "parents'" story sounds believable? pnwmom Oct 2013 #3
Nope Egnever Oct 2013 #4
I saw that the 2 year old boy was returned. Which of the other pnwmom Oct 2013 #6
The girl from yesterdays post Egnever Oct 2013 #7
Yeah, I missed the title -- which I hope is true. pnwmom Oct 2013 #8
Me as well Egnever Oct 2013 #9
It's definite about the Irish cases. Here's more. pnwmom Oct 2013 #10
I notice they haven't said anything about the coloring of this boy. moriah Oct 2013 #12
I agree that whatever methods they use, they should apply uniformly. pnwmom Oct 2013 #17
Is the family in Ireland Roma or Travelers? REP Oct 2013 #31
i believe they are rom, or at least one parent is. loli phabay Oct 2013 #36
uh. no. not racism. Roma people may have been persecuted....but these people Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13
In Greece, maybe. I'd say most of the rest of the world needs to take a deep breath. moriah Oct 2013 #15
that part I agree with. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16
According to the link in my post not so much Egnever Oct 2013 #18
two were in Ireland, a country that had people overreacting to news from Greece Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #19
My mistake Egnever Oct 2013 #23
It's two of four -- the two in Ireland have been identified. pnwmom Oct 2013 #22
Yup I was confusing the cases Egnever Oct 2013 #24
The problem with leaving the children with the Greek families pnwmom Oct 2013 #26
Well Egnever Oct 2013 #30
If these children were "routinely" passed around, pnwmom Oct 2013 #32
Looks like the child was passed around Egnever Oct 2013 #34
Smells like ? dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #14
I am starting to believe that Egnever Oct 2013 #20
The 2 cases in Ireland are different than the 2 cases in Greece. pnwmom Oct 2013 #25
Ok Egnever Oct 2013 #28
Have you seen anything indicating that the "parents" of the baby pnwmom Oct 2013 #29
pretty much is, people are looking for scapegoats to attack. loli phabay Oct 2013 #27
Weird get the red out Oct 2013 #2
Yes, Greece has formal adoption laws designed to protect children. pnwmom Oct 2013 #5
I am not familiar with the Greek system for surrendering children but IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #11
they originally claimed it was theirs then backed off that story and said they Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21
I'm more interested in making sure these children weren't abducted Quantess Oct 2013 #33
yes. what's with the whole cultural exceptionalism on trafficking babies? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #35
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