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Igel

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1. Context matters.

Reply to BluegrassStateBlues (Original post)

Sat Oct 26, 2013, 11:50 AM

Oct 2013

On the one advertising sign, it struck me as a "Hitler" 'stache.

Here, it strikes me as a redo of what I think of as the canonical "Big Brother" poster--man's mustachioed face with no background, "Big Brother" above and "is watching you" below. Googled some images, and they're similar.

Also saw a poster nearly as salient with a non-mustachioed man. And parallel Obama and Bush II posters.

Perhaps seeing that poster in "Being Human" when I watched it on DVD last July made the allusion fresher in my memory. Context matters.

In this case, it's probably a 1984 allusion, "Obama = Big Brother" assertion, using a pre-made poster because they were available and could be repurposed. Of course, no real DUer could ever think that the Obama administration in any way, shape, or form exceeds the limits of what's proper when spying on any citizen of the world.

(Wait. Isn't that the "no true Scotsman" fallacy?)

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Obama with Hitler mustache at the 'Stop Watching Us' Rally [View all] BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 OP

Context matters. Igel Oct 2013 #1

It is the same picture in this LaRouche poster. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #2

Wow, talk about reaching. tritsofme Oct 2013 #5

Hitler wore a very distinctive style of mustache Skidmore Oct 2013 #28

A couple of LaRouche nuts show up at near every rally Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #3

Handle it like Barney Franks did? Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #8

Absolutely should be handled the way Barney Franks did. The man is a treasure. Hekate Oct 2013 #69

If only some DUrs would employ the same level of consideration as Barney Frank. baldguy Oct 2013 #101

"Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with the dinning room table" icymist Oct 2013 #139

I won't take any movement seriously that pulls shit like that. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #4

It's clear that you've never been to a rally Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #20

because Anarchists ARE our Nuts! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #55

The same people that accuse Obama of appeasing the right too much BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #6

Any "LIBERAL" that supports NSA spying on Americans can go fuck themselves. Octafish Oct 2013 #7

Keep legitimizing the far right agenda of those that organized this sham. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #9

I'm more bothered by the NSA than a silly poster. Throd Oct 2013 #16

Indeed! Licking boots is way more easy. n/t Wilms Oct 2013 #30

You can't get much more far right than an NSA-owned and operated Police State. Octafish Oct 2013 #31

So you are okay with Glenn Beck then? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #57

Is that a rhetorical or a leading question? Octafish Oct 2013 #61

This is a Glenn Beck sponsored event....care to comment on that? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #73

Glenn Beck may be sponsoring the part you're interested in, not me. Octafish Oct 2013 #96

So if Sarah Palin...Louie Gohmert and Ted Cruz were there...you would still support it..good to know VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #102

You're good at putting words in other people's mouths. Octafish Oct 2013 #107

No, Senator, I am not nor ever have been a member of the Communist Party. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #67

But I do hang out with Glenn Beck... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #75

That went right over your head didn't it? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #77

apparently Glenn Beck went right over yours! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #79

You nailed it. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #84

then why are you supporting a Glenn Beck hosted event? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #86

Well, my ruse was that I approach NSA spying entirely differently than Beck NuclearDem Oct 2013 #88

so it seems the far left finally meets with the far right.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #89

I'm still not a member of the Communist Party, Senator. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #90

Your attempts at "dumbing down" or whatever does not mitigate your public embarrassment. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #93

Your perpetuation of logical fallacies isn't doing you any good. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #99

So if you have to sell your soul to Satan so be it! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #100

Funny how the groups that need watched the most are promoting it the loudest. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #92

I know right.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #98

You must be an oligarh... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #123

Strrange...these people are "far right?" Emelina Oct 2013 #145

? Go Vols Oct 2013 #157

Nonsense! It's different when WE do it! I, for one, welcome... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #51

So are you supporting Glenn Beck? Cause this is one of his fiascos... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #56

Nice smear. Octafish Oct 2013 #64

You deserve it... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #74

Still, nothing to add about NSA spying. Octafish Oct 2013 #95

Would you like to add something in support of Glenn Beck...your new BFF? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #97

You are a seriously disturbed person. Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #106

That's a most un-democratic tactic, VanillaRhapsody. Octafish Oct 2013 #109

Amen and Amen TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #151

Ooopssie! Somebody dropped their script and EarlG was there with the hammer! Rex Oct 2013 #160

Misleading subject line. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #10

The English language can be very interestingly treestar Oct 2013 #14

yawn.... think Oct 2013 #11

ummm... One fucked up poster in a crowd does not void the protest Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #12

Well, when some of the featured speakers are teabaggers... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #17

Can we set up our own NSA protest 100 feet away? Throd Oct 2013 #18

There are shit loads of groups and people involved Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #33

Justin Amash is one of the architects of the government shutdown. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #38

So... You are just going to ignore that there are groups of all stripes involved? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #41

Now I'm convinced that spying on Americans is OK. Wilms Oct 2013 #43

If you really believe these far right groups want to form a constructive coalition with you, BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #44

List of groups linked here... Why do you keep ignoring all the liberal groups involved? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #48

To dissuade us from protesting the NSA. To stop people from uniting Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #63

Agreed Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #71

I'm not interested in forming a coalition with them. Wilms Oct 2013 #82

Oh FFS. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #59

maybe 10% of Libertarians actually give a shit about NSA spying. busterbrown Oct 2013 #81

LaRouche people KT2000 Oct 2013 #13

Without any comments I'd of thought of someone else ConcernedCanuk Oct 2013 #15

So the man holding the "impeach" poster Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #19

That's good advice for anybody at this rally fadedrose Oct 2013 #21

True. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #25

Keep trying Oilwellian Oct 2013 #22

There's a lot of Koch money behind this rally. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #26

So Mozilla is owned by the Koch brothers? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #54

That just makes my blood boil, the one about dead soldiers, that is. Thucydides Oct 2013 #78

"Thank God for dead soldiers" comes directly from Westboro/Phelps. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #108

I see one of my favorite group of people from my county showed up nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #23

Another one. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #24

Told you it was a fucking LaRouche crazy. They did the same thing during the Bush Admin. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #65

Well, since the crazies show up at every protest... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Cronus Protagonist Oct 2013 #27

The OP is what the Xtian Reich does when they take pics at gay pride Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #29

A large majority of the organizers behind this rally are far right groups. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #34

EFF, ACLU Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #45

CEI, Freedom Works, YAL, Libertarian Party, Students For Liberty... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #46

You claimed a large majority with no proof. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #50

And then you provided it. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #53

So, you went through that entire list, did you? To determine left from right, eh? Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #62

Remember Lewis Black's bit about Nazi tourettes? Initech Oct 2013 #32

With apologies to WilliamPitt: jsr Oct 2013 #35

Outragous Savannahmann Oct 2013 #36

Oathkeepers also in attendance. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #37

FFS. Oh, just great. They should take their moustache back to Glennbeckistan. freshwest Oct 2013 #39

That would figure Progressive dog Oct 2013 #40

If anyone thinks these Koch-funded groups want to form a coalition with them... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #42

The Third Way Democrats are also Koch-funded Oilwellian Oct 2013 #83

That would require the padded room caucus winning elections. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #91

LOL...it also exposes your hypocrisy on this issue Oilwellian Oct 2013 #124

+1 Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #126

YEP. Rex Oct 2013 #133

This Liberal/Glibertarian etc convergence that's going on over this War Horse Oct 2013 #47

That's my feelings as well, but I keep getting accused of saying that spying on Americans is OK. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #52

I hear you War Horse Oct 2013 #60

Some people... Chan790 Oct 2013 #76

"We are all black people now," says emcee at Stop Watching Us rally. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #49

No, they're all assholes. Cha Oct 2013 #116

... Scurrilous Oct 2013 #156

fact: This NSA spying infuriates left AND right... annabanana Oct 2013 #58

RWers adopt a liberal issue to beat up President Obama Kolesar Oct 2013 #66

Fortunately, most liberals are smarter than those in attendance. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #80

Nailed it... SidDithers Oct 2013 #94

^^ Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner! nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #114

Give me a break. That's a LaRouche poster. David__77 Oct 2013 #68

The anti-NSA/Obama rallies in Chicago seek to be peimarily LaRouchenuts. nm SamYeager Oct 2013 #70

I'm against the NSA spying and I am also against the teabaggers at that rally. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #85

Integrity MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #87

I guess we were overdue for a liberal bashing thread. Rex Oct 2013 #103

So you condone the sign with Pres Obama as "hitler"? Cha Oct 2013 #111

Is the person holding the sign a liberal? Rex Oct 2013 #113

My question was whether you condoned it or not. I don't.. no matter Cha Oct 2013 #117

Well then you are missing a key ingredient. Rex Oct 2013 #118

Pipe down you! zappaman Oct 2013 #155

Well I will! But not because you said so. Rex Oct 2013 #159

I noticed this hippie puncher started posting here 2 days after michigandem58 was PPRd. Electric Monk Oct 2013 #121

Careful, you know how some are about CTs in GD. Rex Oct 2013 #122

I do miss that guy, TBH. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #128

So I shouldn't be offended that they are accusing me of being that guy? nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #131

Umm.....no, not what I meant. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #134

You shouldn't be offended one way or another. You have to consider Cha Oct 2013 #137

Turns out I was correct, yet again. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Electric Monk Oct 2013 #152

Looks likethe particular fuckhead you're sticking up for isn't around anymore. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #161

Something tells me they wished they could have Union Scribe Oct 2013 #130

Just what we need, the Ghost of Spandan on Halloween! Rex Oct 2013 #132

An early Halloween present. EarlG, taking care of business Autumn Oct 2013 #154

Thank you!!! Rex Oct 2013 #158

Schweet! WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #163

What a load of bullshit RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #104

Yeah notice how THAT is not being addressed at all? Rex Oct 2013 #115

What we have here is a loyalist telling liberals to avoid criticizing the NSA. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #119

The protest was held by some RWing wackadoodles. Rex Oct 2013 #120

+1 Marr Oct 2013 #162

A very strange mix of people at that thing. MineralMan Oct 2013 #105

A very strange mix of political ideologies. Race? Not so much. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #129

So, in your world, any unity over an extremely important issue is to be avoided solarhydrocan Oct 2013 #141

How about Corey Booker? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #148

Stupid asshole doesn't know who the fuck hitler was. Just showing off Cha Oct 2013 #110

You're welcome. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #112

When Bush was in power they had the exact same poster with Bush's pic Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #125

WOW, JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #127

There are still unironic LaRouchies in the country? Scootaloo Oct 2013 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author pa28 Oct 2013 #136

Who the fuck are you? hootinholler Oct 2013 #138

In future please clear with OP before attending any public meeting. jsr Oct 2013 #140

Let's be honest, it's just another Tea Party event. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #142

So you are saying only Tea Partiers care about the Bill of Rights???? Emelina Oct 2013 #146

I'm sure a few LaRouchies have gone stealth into PBO rallies just to disrupt...just saying.... steve2470 Oct 2013 #143

... Rex Oct 2013 #144

Good thing Corey Booker's not a liberal Fumesucker Oct 2013 #147

that's like saying it would have been ok to attend a KKK rally because FDR worked with racists JI7 Oct 2013 #149

I note you didn't disagree with me about Booker Fumesucker Oct 2013 #150

Mixed Nuts Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #153

...says the guy that turns out to be a repeat disruptor! Rex Oct 2013 #164