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moriah

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47. I've known a few people who've given kids up for adoption. There were good reasons.

Sat Oct 26, 2013, 08:46 PM

Oct 2013

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/10405002/Maria-is-child-of-Bulgarian-couple-DNA-tests-show.html

That article has a bit of information on the social services situation for the family in Bulgaria. I notice that one thing it indicates is that the Ruseva family either did not or could not take their children to the doctor for their medical problems, whereas Maria's adoptive parents did get her medical attention. I think if there'd been a prior complaint about Maria's family, it would have come out by now -- and they would have found her sooner.

A 14-year-old is a bit young for a weekend babysitting gig, IMHO, without a lot of adult support, but it's possible the age norms are different in that town. One of Sasha's daughters is 20, lives close by, and indicated she was taking care of her siblings when she was 16. But I've not advocated for Maria to be returned to her biological family at this juncture. I think she was better off with her adoptive family.

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The Blond Roma - A tale of recessive genes [View all] Xipe Totec Oct 2013 OP

Albinism shanti Oct 2013 #1

You are absolutely correct. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2013 #2

My parents were both brown haired, brown eyed Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #3

What is atrocious? Spell it out, please. LisaL Oct 2013 #5

You seem to be really confused. LisaL Oct 2013 #4

One of us is confused. I'll grant you that Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #6

The child was removed from a person who was not a biological mother. LisaL Oct 2013 #7

This is justification after the fact. Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #9

Really? How about having a proper documentation for the child? LisaL Oct 2013 #11

Why ask for the documentation to begin with? Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #12

Police went there to investigate suspected criminal activity. Then they noticed the child. LisaL Oct 2013 #14

Keep the girl where she is until there is cause for concern. Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #16

So having 14 children registered, most of whom appear to be non-existing, is not a cause for LisaL Oct 2013 #18

Your information is stale Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #22

First of all, police had no clue that biological mother gave up the child when they removed LisaL Oct 2013 #25

i dont think it matters what evidence comes out the goal posts keep getting moved loli phabay Oct 2013 #26

I noticed. I have been trying to be gentle with my rhetoric on this, but it's hard. moriah Oct 2013 #31

yup the broad brush thing gets me, though some of the comments have been shocking loli phabay Oct 2013 #32

Welfare fraud is no reason to bust into people's houses, and that's the only proven crime here. moriah Oct 2013 #13

So suspected welfare fraud should just be ignored? LisaL Oct 2013 #15

non-existing offspring? She's white, but she not a ghost. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #17

Where are the other 10? LisaL Oct 2013 #19

You're desperately seeking cover by sliding into a different argument. Xipe Totec Oct 2013 #23

What different argument? LisaL Oct 2013 #28

It's quite likely that she registered her children multiple times each. moriah Oct 2013 #20

there is also the smart thing of registering kids across as many borders as you can loli phabay Oct 2013 #21

Yes, sure, makes it easier to hide. Whatever it is one wants to hide. LisaL Oct 2013 #27

question it if you like, but understand that there is the need to be able to disappear loli phabay Oct 2013 #30

You don't think that's a good reason to take a child into custody if there is suspicion of LisaL Oct 2013 #33

I'm sure it's not intentional, but that sounds an awful lot like victim blaming. moriah Oct 2013 #35

It's not "unequal protection" under the law. LisaL Oct 2013 #38

<bangs head thoroughly against wall> moriah Oct 2013 #39

Her bio parents took off and left some of the children behind. LisaL Oct 2013 #40

"Police said they were still in Bulgaria and not under arrest." moriah Oct 2013 #42

Per the article, they were "assigned" to the 18 year old sibling, because LisaL Oct 2013 #43

even in the us an eighteen year old sibling is old enough to watch their younger siblings loli phabay Oct 2013 #45

Even when parents were there, did you think the siblings looked well taken care of? LisaL Oct 2013 #46

I've known a few people who've given kids up for adoption. There were good reasons. moriah Oct 2013 #47

That's what audits and things like that are for, not random door-to-door searches. moriah Oct 2013 #24

In Greek law, an adoption occurring outside legal channels pnwmom Oct 2013 #29

I'll let her relative answer you on the child-selling accusation. moriah Oct 2013 #8

I fail to see what is good about this point. LisaL Oct 2013 #10

What happened to the little blonde child was atrocious Warpy Oct 2013 #36

payment can also be made in respect to lost dowries, people also dont get family is different loli phabay Oct 2013 #44

What an amazing hair color! pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #34

It could very well be out of the box. LisaL Oct 2013 #37

probuably dyed, its a common enough practice to die young girls hair loli phabay Oct 2013 #41

It's dye. Her eldest daughter also had dyed hair TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #48