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sabrina 1

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Mon Oct 28, 2013, 01:03 PM

Oct 2013

Is there anything in anything I have EVER said here out of over 35,000 comments that caused you to think that I don't like Progressives? I don't understand your comment. Sanders IS a Progressive.

If he runs that is who I will be supporting and I can say with confidence that almost every other Progressive I know will do the same so long as he is in the race.

We are not stupid enough NOT to know that he will become a target of Big Money and that we the people don't have the kind of money that will be thrown at defeating him.

The fact that more Progressive candidates don't win in the primaries has far more to do with money than anything else.

The BUY their candidates. But OWS eg has awakened a large part of the population to that fact and imo, Corporate Donations should be a huge issue in 2016. Iow, it should be used against candidates who are accepting huge donations from corporations and those donations should be exposed in the campaigns.

It's a very sad thing to watch right now that only potential candidates who are assured of huge corporate donations are being pushed three years ahead of the election.

Now is the time for the people to start talking about these issues and the candidates THEY want.

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"Bernie Sanders talks about...the possibility of a presidential run...." [View all] steve2470 Oct 2013 OP

pretty please?! G_j Oct 2013 #1

Pretty please with a cherry on top? lark Oct 2013 #155

I'd enthusiastically join his campaign. n/t deutsey Oct 2013 #2

I would too! PearliePoo2 Oct 2013 #41

I am with you. dotymed Oct 2013 #83

+1 daleanime Oct 2013 #151

Sign me up MissDeeds Oct 2013 #187

I would join you. 840high Oct 2013 #96

I would love to see a President Sanders Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #3

Well then how about me? rwsanders Oct 2013 #133

How would that square with DU policy? n/t TekGryphon Oct 2013 #4

Once upon a time in DUland, DU claimed to for liberals and progressives including greens HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #7

speculating about a run is probably fine; an actual run would probably be different el_bryanto Oct 2013 #8

Obviously he'd need to declare as a Democrat. AAO Oct 2013 #12

Why? Bernie caucuses with Dems. If he runs he should run as he is. To change sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #42

They were talking about being able to support him according to DU rules stevenleser Oct 2013 #60

Yes you can. DU supported a non Dem over a Dem in Florida not so long ago. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #103

I explained that exception in my response to you. That would not apply here. stevenleser Oct 2013 #109

Well, the general population are the ones who will decide. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #126

Well stated, sabrina. red dog 1 Oct 2013 #201

PPR = Pepperoni Pizza Relief? AAO Oct 2013 #165

I'll vote for him regardless of party but he'd have a better chance as a dem AAO Oct 2013 #64

That is so sad. dotymed Oct 2013 #91

Has nothing to do with "people put party first". Just because you cannot advocate for him on DU stevenleser Oct 2013 #111

I'm sorry if the turth hurts. Have a nice day! AAO Oct 2013 #129

Your version of "the truth" is what is sad. n/t dotymed Oct 2013 #194

And a big n/t to you too! HAVE A GOOD DAY! AAO Oct 2013 #198

Yes, it is sad. Although I doubt that is the popular view. Today's younger sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #170

Bernie wouldn't be attacked by "both" sides. bvar22 Oct 2013 #154

If he ran, whether as a Dem of Dem Socialist, DUers could fully support him. morningfog Oct 2013 #14

All of his supporters will promptly be banned Renew Deal Oct 2013 #43

So be it. whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #75

That would be what? daleanime Oct 2013 #153

Something like that I imagine whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #164

It was ok for Charlie Crist RandiFan1290 Oct 2013 #71

Which was an exception in a case where the Democrat had no chance. stevenleser Oct 2013 #118

There is currently a Bernie exception hootinholler Oct 2013 #84

Which is exactly why if he runs I think he will run as a Democrat. Bernie is well aware... stevenleser Oct 2013 #119

The Crist exception! Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #98

K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!! RKP5637 Oct 2013 #5

I'd love a President Sanders, but I think we all know that's not going to happen. BUT....... kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #6

What would be the point? He has more power in the Senate. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #17

And it would be a waste of his energy if Dems and Liberals did not have majorities. glinda Oct 2013 #54

+1 cui bono Oct 2013 #113

That's what they said about Obama. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #134

that is not going to happen. lol. okieinpain Oct 2013 #174

Omg I hope sooooooo newfie11 Oct 2013 #9

This place will be incredibly insufferable nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #10

The Sensible Centrists here would have to invent a pole dancing girlfriend and gather the pitchforks Dragonfli Oct 2013 #49

As I remember the fight over the ACA, dotymed Oct 2013 #94

Bernie's position on the ACA mirrors my own. [n/t] Maedhros Oct 2013 #131

Mine too n/t dotymed Oct 2013 #193

I'll support him with everything I've got! AAO Oct 2013 #11

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #13

He'd have my support! nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #15

I'm in. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #16

Fortunately Sanders has more sense than to run Gman Oct 2013 #18

Are you accusing Sanders, or those who would campaign for a liberal, R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #36

Wrong, he would unite this party like no one else could. I hope he runs sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #44

If I could hand pick someone to be president it would be Sanders Gman Oct 2013 #46

Yes, but those who make these decisions are not particularly fond of real sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #47

You are one of those who make those decisions with your vote. You're not fond of progressives? stevenleser Oct 2013 #120

?? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #127

Dont you think that money can influence the grassroots people? Dont you agree that rhett o rick Oct 2013 #152

"The Grass Roots" bvar22 Oct 2013 #156

TESTIFY brother! (or sister)... druidity33 Oct 2013 #167

Thats not the first time... bvar22 Oct 2013 #169

That senator from IL was a centrist then and now. Beacool Oct 2013 #116

The problem I see is that the Democratic Party would never let him win a primary if rhett o rick Oct 2013 #99

I think the people just have to ignore the political class from on, they've been sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #102

The Powers To Be (PTB) will not let a populace candidate win the presidency. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #150

you mean the Democratic party allowed Obama and not Hillary to win the primary? KittyWampus Oct 2013 #110

How do you think he won? nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #149

Technically that's true. Beacool Oct 2013 #191

If Bernie ran for president RoccoR5955 Oct 2013 #19

"Wow. If Bernie ran...DU would go crazy ! I was amazed to read this." Phlem Oct 2013 #20

I love Bernie�� nt Grey Oct 2013 #21

I would enthusiastically support him and volunteer for his campaign Marrah_G Oct 2013 #22

he would be maindawg Oct 2013 #23

That would be a consideration I would think..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #45

Sadly that is probably TBF Oct 2013 #80

Just think, though, of his progressive ideas having a national exposure.....'Twould be fascinating! northoftheborder Oct 2013 #24

Sanders Warren has a ring to it zeemike Oct 2013 #25

Warren, Sanders, Grayson......they're all okay with me. It's about time we had a progressive in Cal33 Oct 2013 #31

In The Primaries He Would Be The Only Candidate.... global1 Oct 2013 #26

+1. Far too often, it's only the no-hopers who are willing to speak unvarnished truth. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #57

k&r idwiyo Oct 2013 #27

I love him dearly, but isn't he a little old to run? Bette Noir Oct 2013 #28

No he isn't too old to run. He appears to me to be in better shape both sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #105

As I said in another thread on this topic, sometime you don't run to win, sometimes......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #29

he'd get my vote, but he'd DesertFlower Oct 2013 #30

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #32

Go Bernie gopiscrap Oct 2013 #33

"But what I do think is there needs to be a progressive voice in the presidential process." YES! polichick Oct 2013 #34

Shut up and take my money! tkmorris Oct 2013 #35

Love Bernie to pieces, but he hasn't got a snowball's chance on a hot griddle to get in the WH IrishAyes Oct 2013 #37

Neither did Obama:) grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #135

True, true; but their circumstances were different, and they're different men. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #171

Omg!! That would be awesome blondie58 Oct 2013 #38

Big K&R! nt snappyturtle Oct 2013 #39

K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #40

He's too short to be elected, and too smart to want it. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #48

Be still, my heart! LiberalAndProud Oct 2013 #50

As interesting as that sounds, it'll never happen George II Oct 2013 #51

Why be a nay-sayer on something so crucial? nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #137

I'm not being a naysayer, I'm being practical - why waste energy on something that is close.... George II Oct 2013 #142

Yes 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #147

i can do sanders as long as he runs dem and doesnt split vote. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #52

Would the Dems have him? He seems to be to the left of the party as far as most GreenPartyVoter Oct 2013 #53

i think he could make it as a dem. i do not think what he says is out there. he is pretty right on seabeyond Oct 2013 #56

That's right, Bernie is far from an extremist, unless you get you news from Rush or Fucks. AAO Oct 2013 #65

Sanders - Castro / 2016 watoos Oct 2013 #55

Sanders and which Castro? xfundy Oct 2013 #76

Julian Castro. beerandjesus Oct 2013 #92

Please explain how a Bernie Sanders wins... brooklynite Oct 2013 #58

I'm just relaying information here steve2470 Oct 2013 #59

He would most likely win the same states as Hillary Clinton would, maybe a few more even. Zorra Oct 2013 #63

Settle down RandiFan1290 Oct 2013 #73

He doesn't. And winning is important but so is influencing positions cali Oct 2013 #95

Hillary would not be pushed to the left. She may be forced to talk more progressive during NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #195

Another "only establishment/corporate candidates can win" post... polichick Oct 2013 #112

By no means... brooklynite Oct 2013 #121

You've posted a lot about "electability" - always suggesting the establishment candidate... polichick Oct 2013 #122

I make an informed choice based on the options available. brooklynite Oct 2013 #124

We have NO idea who's running yet - Clinton hasn't even announced... polichick Oct 2013 #125

Don't want to disappoint you... brooklynite Oct 2013 #136

What "exacting standards?" - a Dem that represents the people... polichick Oct 2013 #140

If this 'we know who can win and who can't' crap had any merit, we'd never lose, but we do. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #115

OMG! I saw the reply subject line and thought of you. Wilms Oct 2013 #138

are you serious, its not the winning that matters okieinpain Oct 2013 #173

Count me as a volunteer, Bernie. Wilms Oct 2013 #61

EEK!! A Fringe, EmoProg, Impractical, 3rd Party, SOCIALIST!! Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #62

I'd volunteer! JDPriestly Oct 2013 #66

Talk About Dysfunctional Government... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #67

Bravo. xfundy Oct 2013 #77

Rush et al would be screaming SOCIALIST COMMUNIST from the top of their lungs constantly steve2470 Oct 2013 #78

You're right, but the funny thing is..... beerandjesus Oct 2013 #93

It will be a bit tougher for them though, because Bernie is White. nt NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #196

The Righties� have already screamed, "Socialist!" if I'm not mistaken. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #85

He should run as a Democrat dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #68

^^^THIS^^^. nt NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #197

I'm ready to write my first check to the "Sanders for President" campaign OutNow Oct 2013 #69

Go Bernie!! All the Way!! Stevepol Oct 2013 #70

He would run as a socialist, be honest, what do you think his chances would be? B Calm Oct 2013 #72

Few Southern Indiana redneck hicks would vote for anyone to the left of Genghis Kahn. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #86

If Bernie announced a presidential run, Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #74

"I would LOVE to have someone to vote FOR for once." Enthusiast Oct 2013 #87

I Wish. nt NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #79

Him just running would pull the debate to the left. bravenak Oct 2013 #81

This is true, bravenak. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #88

Yeah, they'd have to change the debate rules yet again and raise the polling percentage cui bono Oct 2013 #114

Bernie! AzDar Oct 2013 #82

K&R! By God, I love Bernie Sanders! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #89

Oh Bernie Autumn Oct 2013 #90

please please please please please please please please please please please please please please Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #97

As a (half-) Jew I'd like to point out the Elephant In The Room HomerRamone Oct 2013 #100

OMG Sanders/Warren oh please oh please oh please oh please!!!! CarrieLynne Oct 2013 #101

That would be wonderful! polichick Oct 2013 #117

Yes! AndyA Oct 2013 #104

This would be so awesome!! Myrina Oct 2013 #106

Do it man, do it! JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #107

If Bernie Runs fredamae Oct 2013 #108

OMG! avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author tconer Oct 2013 #128

OMG!! Yes yes Bernie. Just DO IT. with Warren as VP. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #130

I love Bernie, but he stands no chance in the generals... nt Adrahil Oct 2013 #132

Not true - he's very popular among independents and R's In Vermont & NH. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #139

I'd like to believe he stands a chance, but I just can't see him winning in VA and OH... do you? nt Adrahil Oct 2013 #145

Absolutely. His positions are the same as the majority in both those states. Just grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #159

If he runs, I'll hear him out. Adrahil Oct 2013 #160

Sanders / Warren OR ChiciB1 Oct 2013 #141

WOW. bvar22 Oct 2013 #143

George McGovern won MA. That's it. MA for a whopping total of 17 electoral votes. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #144

How long ago was that? 40 years......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #181

And ideologues are always losing! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #184

Wishful Thinking, And I'd Support Bernie on the drop of a dime.. 2banon Oct 2013 #146

oh, please please please! That would mean I would actually get to vote for a democrat in the liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #148

If nothing else, that would cinch up his Ben & Jerry's flavor. KamaAina Oct 2013 #157

Bernie would have to change parties, as he ran as an independant Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #158

With Howard Dean running the party, Sanders/Warren or Sanders/Castro would have a rat's ass chance. ancianita Oct 2013 #161

I love Bernie all to heck...but, SpankMe Oct 2013 #162

It's A Nice Thing To Contemplate colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #163

The DNC would trun him into Herman Caine. AAO Oct 2013 #166

LOL...watch the DLC/Third Way sycophants squirm..such fun! antigop Oct 2013 #168

dukakis part two. lol. okieinpain Oct 2013 #172

He's seventy two years old. Anything could happen but I'd be surprised. nt MADem Oct 2013 #175

I like him in the senate lordsummerisle Oct 2013 #176

K & R!!!! Bernie Sanders for President!!!!! Sounds WONDERFUL, somebody pinch me! mother earth Oct 2013 #177

Sanders is right on the issues, but inspires little confidence as a leader. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #178

Please, he inspires great confidence in all of us, he'd be wonderful & if he runs...it will be the mother earth Oct 2013 #179

Passion is not magic. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #180

Spoken by someone who clearly has not experienced passion, so sad. Though you are right, mother earth Oct 2013 #199

I'm passionately rational, and rationally passionate. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #202

I'm with you TBD, but don't you see? The reality is that IF things were not corrupt & up for grabs mother earth Oct 2013 #203

I'm with you too, but think of it like this. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #204

If enough people were #6, we'd fight and WIN guys like Kucinich & Sanders, it's not mother earth Oct 2013 #205

Progressivism has to be reality-based to succeed, and that's always been true. True Blue Door Oct 2013 #206

No, the word for all politicians under the status quo is superfluous, the system is the problem, not mother earth Nov 2013 #207

I'm afraid you're posing a false dilemma True Blue Door Nov 2013 #208

+1. Welcome to DU! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #185

As much as I like Bernie and would vote for him if I lived in Vermont gejohnston Oct 2013 #182

I like Bernie a lot, but... DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #183

If Senator Sanders runs, I will support him with all my heart, all my soul and all my mind Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #186

+1000 MissDeeds Oct 2013 #189

Sen. Sander's economic message resonates with almost everyone across the entire political spectrum Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #188

ABSOLUTELY!!!! mother earth Oct 2013 #200

I would donate! His voice needs to be heard! Hulk Oct 2013 #190

Sanders/Warren would be awesome! :) nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #192