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jeff47

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45. Not the claim you were making.

Reply to Shampoyeto (Reply #44)

Mon Oct 28, 2013, 03:36 PM

Oct 2013

Your claim was that the NSA was not blocking any spying.

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Dear Josh Marshall: Please explain which allied countries are spying on which "US Leaders" [View all] Shampoyeto Oct 2013 OP

Well, there is an explanation to this nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #1

Ha! Aerows Oct 2013 #16

I remember Josh from the "Muckraker Days." KoKo Oct 2013 #20

You forgot, 911 also happened. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #26

Here's some good information. ProSense Oct 2013 #2

France, Germany And Brazil Have Surveillance Agencies Too Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #4

Feel free to ignore the facts. ProSense Oct 2013 #6

I'm betting they're all spying on Obama n/t malaise Oct 2013 #3

"I'm betting" Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #8

Josh Marshall is a joke... joeybee12 Oct 2013 #5

I remember him from the AOLchat days, a puffed up ego Rex Oct 2013 #22

I disagree. TPM has pretty in-depth reporting and seems to get it right most of the time. OregonBlue Oct 2013 #52

Half of the NSA is for securing US communication jeff47 Oct 2013 #7

If they aren't spying on us, they are idiots. Adrahil Oct 2013 #9

What do you mean "if'? Didn't Marshall tell us they ARE doing it? Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #10

I am confident they are. Adrahil Oct 2013 #11

You need to tell the NSA Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #12

1/2 of the NSA is information security. jeff47 Oct 2013 #36

tell me more. they want to end Germany's spying on US leaders? Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #44

Not the claim you were making. jeff47 Oct 2013 #45

yes, it was the claim i made Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #51

You telling us this might violate your security agreement and clearance nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #13

No, this is public knowledge and published in standard security training.... nothing secrety. Adrahil Oct 2013 #14

I am sure you telling us this is allowed too nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #15

? It's standard stuff. nt Adrahil Oct 2013 #17

Nope it is not nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #18

And there it is... SidDithers Oct 2013 #35

Yes, it really is standard stuff. jeff47 Oct 2013 #37

Yeah, don't bother actually having a discussion or anything.... Adrahil Oct 2013 #39

Damn! Usually you have to piss someone off more than this to be put on the prized Iggy List! randome Oct 2013 #23

<Shrug> Some people only want to hear people who agree with them on everything. nt Adrahil Oct 2013 #57

With friends like you ... GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #56

Well, I'm not a Pollyanna. Adrahil Oct 2013 #58

I like Josh Marshall and Talking Points Memo el_bryanto Oct 2013 #19

Josh, you're good at covering economic issues, so go ahead and make stuff up about spying Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #24

None of us 'knows' anything. Even Marshall is putting his opinion out there. randome Oct 2013 #28

it was not an opinion Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #29

It was a 3 paragraph blurb with his by-line, not a story with facts and figures. randome Oct 2013 #31

Factual claims dont necessarily have to be accompanied by figures Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #33

I edited my original post. The article is headlined 'TPM Editor's Blog'. It's his opinion. randome Oct 2013 #40

That is not the article's headline Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #42

Okay, okay, poor wording on my part. It's still a blog post. randome Oct 2013 #46

I think in the context of an editorial el_bryanto Oct 2013 #54

He's been carrying water for this administration since day one. Broward Oct 2013 #21

doesn't excuse any US spying or equivalize it all bigtree Oct 2013 #25

Bottom line, if they have the technical capability, they are doing it. n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #27

If thats so, then marshall KNOWS they have the capability Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #32

France, Germany, the UK all have the capability, ergo they are doing it. SamYeager Oct 2013 #47

How do you know that? nt Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #48

They have the same access to high technology as we do. SamYeager Oct 2013 #49

Where did you read that? nt Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #50

I've been working in technology for thirty years n/t SamYeager Oct 2013 #53

Have you written Mt Marshall at TPM? LanternWaste Oct 2013 #30

yes, on twitter. i was gonna comment under his article, but surprise surprise Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #34

I believe there is an email for the publication to which concerns may be made. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #41

of course you will say the obvious place is the one i didn't use Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #43

Charlie Rose, Jr. doxyluv13 Oct 2013 #55

After WWII and the Cold War, no competent intelligence service would wait until a conflict broke out struggle4progress Oct 2013 #38

Israel, for one, has been caught spying on us many times. n/t ieoeja Oct 2013 #59