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SunSeeker

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41. By the same token, being against the NSA does not make you a progressive.

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 12:02 PM

Oct 2013

Particularly the trolls who come here to flog Obama, but were nowhere to be heard when Bush set up the programs they are now railing against.

Libertarians are against the NSA because they think government should have no power. Of course, neutering government allows the the rich to abuse working people and the environment, unfettered by regulators and without recourse by their victims. Yeah, they don't want the government storing your meta data. But they are fine with you being a corporation's serf.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 OP

After all your trolling for spying love, you post this? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #1

That's your response? Where are my threads where I advocate for what the NSA is doing Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #3

You deny you advocated for the spying? RobertEarl Oct 2013 #4

Yes. Why would I want my emails, cell phone calls, etc. Saved by the government? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #6

There is a critical difference between someone who believes in civil liberties -- pnwmom Oct 2013 #10

PW loves The Party Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #33

Yeah, what is up with all the pro libertarian applegrove Oct 2013 #2

I believe that is the idea. They say reading Ayn Rand while high is a hoot. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #7

Reading Ayn Rand while high is the best sleeping pill ever. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #26

Very funny Southside Oct 2013 #47

They ignored my thread about the Third Way being pissed off at Obama... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #5

I think Obama is learning about NSA spying this year along with the rest of us Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #8

He's full of surprise endings when it comes to the big issues, BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #9

President Obama gets a daily presidential briefing. Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #11

On the information. Not the methods. nt BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12

Seems like you've read the PDB's...right?..nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #38

It's a "briefing" not a slog through everything. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #13

Wouldn't that be called a "longing" BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #15

clever /nt demwing Oct 2013 #28

Why bother posting in your threads Union Scribe Oct 2013 #23

BWAHAHAHA hootinholler Oct 2013 #30

MIR Team (EarlG) banned BluegrassStateBlues hrmjustin Oct 2013 #55

No more self deletes. Thanks EarlG Autumn Oct 2013 #56

I have seen some pro social libertarian threads, ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #14

Believing in "social liberties" does not make you a Libertarian. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #18

That doesn't seem to stop a segment of people here from screaming "Libertarian!" NuclearDem Oct 2013 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Oct 2013 #40

By the same token, being against the NSA does not make you a progressive. SunSeeker Oct 2013 #41

^^^This!^^^ eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #51

Why post Meta crap? nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #16

So we can all be very suspicious of each other. Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #17

You started it! joshcryer Oct 2013 #19

Me too. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #20

I started nothing. I find the constant "warnings" to DUers insulting to Luminous Animal Oct 2013 #21

The Libertarians are certainly, almost 100%, driving the narrative. joshcryer Oct 2013 #24

the hysteria far out of proportion to the influence that libertarian ideology has on this board Kolesar Oct 2013 #27

If by "this" you mean your thread Union Scribe Oct 2013 #22

I've only got one destination Fumesucker Oct 2013 #25

Link? morningfog Oct 2013 #29

While some are just openly trolling. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #31

If you're referring to me? I don't think it's trolling to say Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #34

Based on the level of defensiveness in this thread, I would say you hit a nerve. n/t Tanuki Oct 2013 #35

+1...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #37

Yep. He sure did. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #53

Link please whatchamacallit Oct 2013 #36

All the Meta posts of late remind me why the admins got rid of Meta. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #39

As a former host of GD I am astonished at the logic that would allow this thread. grantcart Oct 2013 #42

There are still 'hosts'? I assumed that had been ended since there are so many Meta Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #44

Feel free to chat with your friends and have it locked Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #45

I found the interference of non hosts unhelpful at the time. grantcart Oct 2013 #49

I may do that. But this site is driving me bonkers Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #50

They Hosting system is completely dysfunctional... SidDithers Oct 2013 #52

Not to mention Vegetarian, Presbyterian, and Kittenarian Love. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #43

Your posts always make me laugh. Not in a good way! nt Logical Oct 2013 #46

Are you looking to add to your collection of hidden posts? Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #48

are you saying that we are not supposed to work with each other? Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #54

Speaking of trolling... Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #57