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immoderate

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11. Unemployment doesn't damage people. Being broke does.

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 29, 2013, 05:49 PM

Oct 2013

A society organized with automation in mind, and with people's basic needs fulfilled, will not have to worry much about dreaming up busy-work for them.

The problem with work is it's destructive. And there won't be enough to go around. Although in some sense, we aren't too far apart either.

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We'd be better off if Obama WAS a Marxist. [View all] Ken Burch Oct 2013 OP

there is still the republican controlled house he would have to deal with JI7 Oct 2013 #1

I included an assumption, in the OP, that he had a Congress he could work with. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #2

if I were President.. stillcool Oct 2013 #3

Would there be borscht? 1000words Oct 2013 #4

Cute. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #8

Sorry, my post was intended to be good-natured 1000words Oct 2013 #15

Not meaning to be harsh in response...misread your intent. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #27

Pass ... But "White Russian" gives me a cracking idea! 1000words Oct 2013 #28

Why a "full-employment economy?" That's crazy. immoderate Oct 2013 #5

because of the damage unemployment does to people. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #6

Unemployment doesn't damage people. Being broke does. immoderate Oct 2013 #11

drudging, disrespected, meaningless work is destructive. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #13

We agree on main point. But citing "Marxist-Leninism" is a straw man. immoderate Oct 2013 #18

That was what I was trying to say. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #20

Question is: Who would Stalin NOT have had shot? immoderate Oct 2013 #21

uh...himself?... Ken Burch Oct 2013 #24

With a planned economy, if we could cover everybody's needs on......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #16

I'm with you. I have heard estimates that society's needs could be met with a 10 hour week. immoderate Oct 2013 #19

Also, a shorter work week would mean full employment. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #33

and unicorns. don't forget the unicorns Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #7

Ok...here ya go... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #38

Yes, yes we would Taverner Oct 2013 #9

Well, yeah, I was aware of that. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #10

IT sucks when we lose. But when we lose when we win? Sucks worse. Taverner Oct 2013 #12

I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #14

Remember Trotsky? The CLASSIC Marxist...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #17

I also think of people like James Connolly and Rosa Luxemburg-and John MacLean in Scotland Ken Burch Oct 2013 #26

You seem very confident... brooklynite Oct 2013 #22

Well, everyone who ever proposed any sort of genuine, transformational change Ken Burch Nov 2013 #36

Personally, I think that IF the USA actually became...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #37

Psst! Nobody tell the teabaggers what true Marxism is! Initech Oct 2013 #23

...and be careful about telling them what "teabagging" is, too. n/t. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #25

K&R Rex Oct 2013 #29

...many of whom are making their appearances in this very thread, I see. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #32

wow my ignore list is working overtime! bobduca Oct 2013 #34

Then Glenn Beck would finally have something to shit about. Rex Oct 2013 #35

If Obama were a true Marxist, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #30

As I said, the OP called on people to put "electability" out of their minds here. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #31