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lumberjack_jeff

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40. I think you're 1 for 5

Wed Oct 30, 2013, 03:15 PM

Oct 2013

- "America" is demonstrably less comfortable with Hillary than they were with a black guy named "Hussein"
- Yes, the 90's were awesome in retrospect.
- Republicans were galvanized against her. Her face on fundraising materials raised millions for Republican candidates. That said, I don't think there is anyone they would work with - and I would consider anyone they could work with as immediately suspect.
- I remember Hillarycare too. I think they'll only work with Hillary on items on their agenda; tax cuts, SS cuts, and "endingwelfareasweknowit"
- Benghazi!!!!

I admire her and think she'd be a good president, but I think it takes a seriously naive view of current events to think that it's a slam-dunk, or that she's a progressive panacea simply because she's a woman.

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How Hillary will cruise to an easy 2016 victory and why that will upset some on the left. [View all] johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 OP

you're number 2 point is wrong gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1

oh gosh what a typo lmao... thanks!! johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #5

not a problem I knew what you meant, but thought that you should fix gopiscrap Oct 2013 #8

BTW welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #9

hey thanks! nt johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #14

you're welcome hope we call learn from each other gopiscrap Oct 2013 #16

Replace 2016 with 2008, and you get exactly what people were saying back then. jeff47 Oct 2013 #2

Except that Hillary 2016 has Hillary 2008 as a comparison point. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #43

Who doesn't love someone leftynyc Oct 2013 #54

We got corporate candidate #2. polichick Oct 2013 #59

So how do the Dems raise $1 billion without corporate funds? Be Dem PC and tell them to go ahead libdem4life Oct 2013 #95

The only thing I can think of is if people got behind a candidate and funded... polichick Oct 2013 #106

Who would even run? They can't work, family suffers, and to depend on 63 million voters to each libdem4life Oct 2013 #125

These days I can feel depressed about the state of our country... polichick Oct 2013 #126

Ummm...Reagan was president for the majority of the 80's; the 90's was Clinton's era. nt LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #3

I fixed it sorry thanks nt johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #7

Raygun was the 80s president. HappyMe Oct 2013 #4

Spandan, is that you? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Oct 2013 #30

if clinton gets someting done mshasta Oct 2013 #10

I see it more like Hillary will have a lot of healing to do after 2016. nt johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #11

golly, this sure does remind me of what some here said in 2006. cali Oct 2013 #12

I'll say: Smarmie Doofus Oct 2013 #13

and if a fair portion of johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #15

Given her support of TPP, that's likely. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #18

IMO this goes awry just after "1)" HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #17

Last time, Hillary got 17+ million votes in the Primary season brooklynite Oct 2013 #20

Yes, her support WAS largely from "new democrats", "3rd wayers" HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #26

It makes no sense to add primary "votes" karynnj Oct 2013 #53

I think her base of support will be massive johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #21

You are most certainly encouraged to have an opinion HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #25

Yeah! It will be awesome to have them BOTH back in the White house . Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #37

That's one of my lessor problems, but I'll admit it...I have very little respect for BC HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #44

Just another pro-war, 3rd Way, corporatist, ambitious, pol. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #19

exactly my take pangaia Oct 2013 #80

It's an easy win for the Democratic party, but.... davidn3600 Oct 2013 #22

maybe... johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #27

no DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #109

*snooorree* *snoooooooooreee* Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #23

So, let me see if I've got this straight: NuclearDem Oct 2013 #24

+1 Chan790 Oct 2013 #28

Or me. pangaia Oct 2013 #81

+1 Marr Oct 2013 #111

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Oct 2013 #118

Another Spandanish post...yawn. Rex Oct 2013 #29

Well, I checked, and this doesn't seem to be a reincarnation of michigandemStateBlues. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #31

Okay kewl, just another hippie puncher then. Rex Oct 2013 #32

Hillary is a hippie? wuh? n/t Whisp Oct 2013 #41

SO you are saying that the OP is Hillary? Rex Oct 2013 #42

I have no idea who the punched hippies are supposed to be here... Whisp Oct 2013 #45

I won't. Maybe I am the confused one. Rex Oct 2013 #48

I'm not sure who I'll be supporting. Whisp Oct 2013 #49

Warren would make a hell of a good VP. Rex Oct 2013 #50

Yes, Warren would be a good VP but Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #71

80-20 G4A Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #33

I put money on AllINeedIsBlueGrassmichigandeniac. NuclearDem Oct 2013 #34

You can add... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #88

Regarding #4 - nope. They'll be just as nuts with Hillary. Eventually, just Pirate Smile Oct 2013 #35

About #2. Whisp Oct 2013 #36

IMO youre wrong on 1 thru 4 bowens43 Oct 2013 #38

They'll Live BKH70041 Oct 2013 #39

Viable is Pragmatic! bobduca Oct 2013 #122

I think you're 1 for 5 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #40

She'll win because she's already proved she can do the job as well, or better, JoePhilly Oct 2013 #46

Yes if the 90s taught us nothing else Union Scribe Oct 2013 #47

I guess that's why the entire Republican Party united to impeach him? - Only the second impeachment Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #66

And we learned from 2008 that 90% of Dems want Hillary. winter is coming Oct 2013 #92

Republican Law makers refused to work with Bill Clinton Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #51

I doubt that she will run. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #52

silly johnnyrak88 Oct 2013 #57

Hillary is all over facebook where she has a huge following. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #69

"Hillary is in it to win it." winter is coming Oct 2013 #91

People are judged by their food on cooking shows, not on how money moves opinion Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #123

Since that girl was 5 years old she wanted to be President. She's running. johnlucas Oct 2013 #72

"The left" is not in a mood to just accept another corporate Dem... polichick Oct 2013 #55

that is entirely possible and the status quo will prevail. Wealth will continue to be increasingly Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #56

Don't forget the continued failure to take significant action on climate change... antigone382 Oct 2013 #77

And Ted will cruz to an agonizing defeat Blue Owl Oct 2013 #58

"Republican lawmakers will work with Hillary Clinton" Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #60

You beat me to it. -nt- DireStrike Oct 2013 #87

Shhhh....just let it happen.....don't fight it Z_California Oct 2013 #61

So much, so wrong.... Xithras Oct 2013 #62

i agree MFM008 Oct 2013 #63

Can we get through 2014 first? Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #64

Hillary is definitely less evil than Ted Cruz. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #74

Ted Cruz won't be the Republican nominee. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #78

Haha. That was funny. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2013 #85

I think she's the favourite going in watch the sky Oct 2013 #65

Same argument heard in 2007. How'd that turn out again? AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #67

She got more votes than Obama? brooklynite Oct 2013 #79

No, she didn't. AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #108

The Green Papers say otherwise. joshcryer Oct 2013 #113

"conditions" ?????? AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #124

Her administration would be prosperous for the 1% that's for sure. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #68

And without me. pangaia Oct 2013 #83

Count me in with you n/t dflprincess Oct 2013 #97

I am not optimistic with republicans working with any Democratic President. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #70

Is there something in the water today? marmar Oct 2013 #73

It's hard to not laugh out loud when I read that Republicans would vote for Hillary because Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #75

Really. What is this shit? The republicans would work with the woman Nay Oct 2013 #90

Oh for the love of Graham4Anything BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #76

You can say that again.......... davidpdx Oct 2013 #115

Ok Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren vs. Rand Paul and Paul Ryan. Initech Oct 2013 #82

You got something wrong. It won't be 'some' on the Left, it will be a sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #84

++++++ fadedrose Oct 2013 #93

She also supports the TPP. Deal breaker. No more corporate democrats. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #94

"4) Republican lawmakers will work with Hillary Clinton." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DireStrike Oct 2013 #86

gosh, if its "prosperous and positive" how can anyone be upset? bobduca Oct 2013 #89

If Howard Dean runs, I'm voting for him Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #96

"Americans over 40 remember the Clinton presidency fondly" dflprincess Oct 2013 #98

Let's take it a little more slowly. Beacool Oct 2013 #99

Awesome prediction! jsr Oct 2013 #100

I don't think its a lock that she wins. mr_liberal Oct 2013 #101

Agree with some of this, disagree with other bits, but: TDale313 Oct 2013 #102

Did I wake up in 2008? Recursion Oct 2013 #103

ROFL davidpdx Oct 2013 #116

Jumped the shark at 4. Maybe 3 quakerboy Oct 2013 #104

or DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #105

Just don't feel the love avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #107

This early sales campaign is really turning people off, imho. Marr Oct 2013 #110

Republicans don't like Hillary or Bill. JVS Oct 2013 #112

You know what Republicans love even more? Power. nyquil_man Oct 2013 #114

This breaking news just in davidpdx Oct 2013 #117

Just to be realistic BootinUp Oct 2013 #119

I'm not opposed to a second Clinton presidency RFKHumphreyObama Oct 2013 #120

G4A? idwiyo Oct 2013 #121