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Ian_rd

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46. Word. Thank you.

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:27 PM

Oct 2013

Just because there's a legitimate consensus that he got away with manslaughter or worse doesn't automatically make him guilty of anything a proven liar says about him. Unless of course, there's proof.

Maybe the 2008 financial collapse is also his fault.

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George Zimmerman Left Wife, Shellie, Bullet-Riddled Target As Threat: Report [View all] Ohio Joe Oct 2013 OP

Subliminal... that word does not mean what you think it does, Mrs. Zimmerman. nt EOTE Oct 2013 #1

well that's hardly subliminal leftyohiolib Oct 2013 #2

Exactly. It's as blatant as a 2x4 across the face. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #35

Just another responsible gun owner. nt onehandle Oct 2013 #3

Homey has some SERIOUS issues. Myrina Oct 2013 #4

This is why we need to stop seeing stories about him every time he does something. winterpark Nov 2013 #101

I care Isoldeblue Nov 2013 #112

WRONG. Keep telling the stories. It serves as a paper trail when he murders again johnlucas Nov 2013 #116

Not only a paper trail but also demigoddess Nov 2013 #128

Little man with a gun in his hand.... mikeysnot Nov 2013 #106

Watt on 6-string IkeRepublican Nov 2013 #110

While I tend to believe zim did this, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #5

Oh brother.... arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #6

Oh brother what? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #7

Yes, keep in mind his past behaviour. Who has the credibility issue? Not her, imho. nt arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #11

Not her, except for the fact she's in probation for lying, and comes up with allegations constantly Mark Smithelio Oct 2013 #14

Lying versus murder....hmmm arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #17

Lying for whom? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #22

Welcome to DU. I agree, she is not believable, but neither is he. What do you think about his uppityperson Oct 2013 #23

Self defense? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #26

Thanks, was asking Mark Smithelio since he seems to have trouble believing Shellie. uppityperson Oct 2013 #28

Oooops. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #29

No problem and sorry, am posting fast without explaining uppityperson Oct 2013 #32

Yes, for lying for her murdering husband. EOTE Oct 2013 #30

welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #68

George Zimmerman liberal from boston Oct 2013 #77

She doesn't have a credibility issue? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #16

Here's the thing, though: Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #18

That doesn't change the fact that she was convicted of perjury, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #21

But if she was lying at his instructions.... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #24

She could have refuse to lie for him Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #27

Yes, but if the issue is weighing the credibility of the two... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #42

Which do you believe ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #48

Are you familar with the concept of duress? nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #51

I am, are you ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #53

When were the prior false accusations by her? nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #54

You didn't read the article did you ? One is in the first parapgraph or so. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #56

I don't believe she ever accused George of pulling out a gun... Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #59

no. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #64

His lawyer admitted that he was armed that day. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #65

"even if he wasn't armed"....... NM_Birder Oct 2013 #71

She didn't drop the charge. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #72

LOL..... NM_Birder Oct 2013 #75

here's one that will really cook your noodle. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #60

Again, show me the proof she lied/embellished about George Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #61

Why did she withraw the accusation NM_Birder Oct 2013 #67

She didn't withdraw the accusation. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #69

She "decided not to press charges"....... NM_Birder Oct 2013 #74

You keep on harping on that, but... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2013 #107

? NM_Birder Nov 2013 #132

I read enough to be informed. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2013 #133

George Zimmerman liberal from boston Nov 2013 #89

And if she lied for him because she was afraid of being a target herself? strategery blunder Oct 2013 #44

"thats not the news, we're just reporting it".........lol NM_Birder Oct 2013 #52

looks like you have very little understanding of women in abusive/sick relationships. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #49

This false equivalency is a joke... arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #20

Ok, don't buy it, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #25

Smart person would photo the target and then preserve it in a plastic bag. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #37

Yeah, it's not as if Spirochete Oct 2013 #63

Start at the beginning.... Stellar Nov 2013 #93

Please don't take this as a defense of Zim ... but when you embellish like that, you undermine brett_jv Nov 2013 #108

YOU are the only one Stellar Nov 2013 #120

TM's apparent assault against GZ happened very near the spot where GZ spoke to 911 operator cpwm17 Nov 2013 #123

can we just not agree here...please. Stellar Nov 2013 #129

You know... Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #8

I'm sorry that the thing about actual evidence being part of our criminal justice system. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #10

Oh boo hoo, poor Georgie...he gets to live another day while another doesn't... nt arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #13

Where is the call for him to be arrested? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #15

Defending him? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #19

Last time I checked, testimony WAS evidence. stranger81 Oct 2013 #84

Actual evidence would help answer your "real question" of who. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #39

Stop getting in the way of our wanting to believe the worst about this man. :) TeamPooka Oct 2013 #9

yeah libodem Oct 2013 #12

Word. Thank you. Ian_rd Oct 2013 #46

...and OJ is innocent to... both really stupid people are totally innocent uponit7771 Nov 2013 #99

Exactly! He clearly deserves the benefit of the doubt. stranger81 Oct 2013 #83

Wow. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #85

No, the thing that's out the door is having a defendant, apparently. stranger81 Oct 2013 #87

No: he was tried for murder and manslaughter (against the advice of many) cpwm17 Nov 2013 #102

And. . . . . another Zimmerman defender hits the ignore list. stranger81 Nov 2013 #103

Just like stranger81 has done to the evidence: ignore cpwm17 Nov 2013 #104

Yeah, he's the picture of honestly and credibility... why would anyone doubt the dude?!?!? uponit7771 Nov 2013 #98

hmm, maybe if he had left it under her door, that would have been "subliminal" unblock Oct 2013 #31

This guy is a fucking psycho. Arkana Oct 2013 #33

The guy is crazy and that jury was crazy too. WI_DEM Oct 2013 #34

She is suffering from spousal abuse living with a gun-toting sociopath. She's had to lie to herself libdem4life Oct 2013 #36

Zimmerman is evil! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #38

Put up or shut up, Shellie. Dr. Strange Oct 2013 #40

Two things I'm tired of: Updates on George Zimmerman, and pix of Ted Cruz beerandjesus Oct 2013 #41

Somebody PLEASE put that slime-sucker away before he kills someone (else)! lastlib Oct 2013 #43

Not good at all Aerows Oct 2013 #45

While such behavior is totally unacceptable, people do very odd things when divorcing. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #47

Wow! trumad Oct 2013 #50

Yes, they do a lot more. I'm trying to be restrained about comments. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #57

Kinda sorry. I've got PTSD and Trumad triggered... Shrike47 Oct 2013 #58

At least he's a poor shot - unless he holds the gun right to a body AAO Nov 2013 #94

You're right, but I think those people are a small minority... dorkzilla Oct 2013 #70

How is he said/she said between a divorcing couple a story? The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #55

I forsee a very very bad ending for that angry bully. DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #62

I hope she gets out of this without injury Southside Oct 2013 #66

Won't be long before he kills again n/t malaise Oct 2013 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #78

Lynchings weren't considered murder either malaise Oct 2013 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #88

Isn't that assault? D23MIURG23 Oct 2013 #76

"It is just a matter of time before he murders again. I doubt it. I don't see bluestate10 Oct 2013 #80

She didn't stick to the playbook... pacalo Oct 2013 #81

Oh fuck it. Can't we all just agree at this point that Zimmy's getting a free pass stranger81 Oct 2013 #82

IIRC, correctly she was staying at her parent's house that had security camera suevellience. Incitatus Oct 2013 #86

How about they both can be perceived as pathological liars..... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #90

I consider murderer to be considerably lower on the scale than Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #91

May the facts be with you... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #95

Yes, that's the subject of the OP. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #96

Thanks for the clarification, regardless of GZ's guilt or innocence, remember that Shellie bailed Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #100

Deep in his subconscious he wants to go to prison to be with like-minded racists AAO Nov 2013 #92

You know those uppity womens libodem Nov 2013 #97

actually, I'm waiting for the Karma LittleGirl Nov 2013 #105

Well, that's not subliminal, JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #109

This is what conservatives call a hero. Bucky Nov 2013 #111

Look at the bright side Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #113

he's killed before samsingh Nov 2013 #114

in self-defense or not? nt Playful Piranha Nov 2013 #118

The jury didn't buy his story, even if they had to find him "not guilty". moriah Nov 2013 #122

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #124

I know he was guilty of monumental stupidity, and is lucky he didn't follow me like that. moriah Nov 2013 #127

i believe he murdered. He started a fight and when he was getting samsingh Nov 2013 #130

Go away, you clowns! Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #115

Give a small boy a hammer, and he will find that everything he encounters needs pounding Major Nikon Nov 2013 #117

I just knew the little weenie couldn't keep his head down. marble falls Nov 2013 #119

George is going to kill his wife... ReRe Nov 2013 #121

It is not unreasonable to believe eilen Nov 2013 #125

why does this fucker always skate? gopiscrap Nov 2013 #126

She Needs to BillyRibs Nov 2013 #131