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ChisolmTrailDem

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15. I have done something that's very unusual for me. I have flown 4 times this year (so far) and

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:33 PM

Nov 2013

before this year I hadn't flown since before 9/11. Back when the TSA was a concept I hated the idea. I still don't like it. However, it's not as bad as I had been led to believe. The agents are very nice but you can tell that they are also very serious. Yes, there are incidences that are just absurd and ridiculous that we all become outraged about that the TSA has done. But I've accepted those things as no different in context than the ridiculous and absurd things that you might experience at a grocery store or out in traffic or anywhere, under any circumstance, in any industry at the point interaction with the general public.

We're talking about getting in an aluminum tube and going 34,000 feet into the air here. Though I might have issues with the TSA, I do not believe they are completely "useless", as postulated by the OP.

By way of disclaimer, my largest grievance with the existance of the TSA is my aversion to the growing police state in America.

I'm actively accepting taking the good with the bad, re: TSA.

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TSA is useless, except for keeping people scared. [View all] yorgatron Nov 2013 OP

Does nothing? I get that it's annoying to have hold ups and checks when travelling but nothing? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #1

Are they union workers? leftstreet Nov 2013 #2

Useless? Don't they give free feel-ups? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2013 #3

I appreciate the TSA. They have always been polite and considerate. broiles Nov 2013 #4

Same here. I've always found them to be professional and polite. n/t FSogol Nov 2013 #6

Not exactly a fun job to pat down a bunch of strangers and geek tragedy Nov 2013 #8

Especially when all those strangers are in a hurry to get somewhere and usually stresed. n/t FSogol Nov 2013 #9

I have done something that's very unusual for me. I have flown 4 times this year (so far) and ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2013 #15

You think TSA can stop airport shootings? Really? Also..... Logical Nov 2013 #46

I've never had a problem with them either Skittles Nov 2013 #54

What a horribly crass thread to post when a TSA worker was just gunned geek tragedy Nov 2013 #5

no kidding arely staircase Nov 2013 #68

They don't deserve to die for doing their jobs. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #7

Most great abuses of power... Xithras Nov 2013 #11

Oh sweet Jesus. You're comparing x-raying people's bags to internment camps and worse? nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #13

Lol. No, but you just did. Xithras Nov 2013 #17

Still don't get why you're hating on TSA agents for performing geek tragedy Nov 2013 #19

See, that's the point we disagree on. Xithras Nov 2013 #22

I disagree with your extreme libertarian view that checking for explosives and geek tragedy Nov 2013 #24

Ad hominem nice. Xithras Nov 2013 #27

You do realize that the same stuff the TSA does was going on before it existed, right? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #31

Yes, and they did it without feeling up little old ladies, or putting 6 year olds on No-Fly lists. Xithras Nov 2013 #41

It's not really a reason to kill someone in my books. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #14

Really? You're that easily scared? randome Nov 2013 #10

TSA is often a prisoner of bad policy, but DirkGently Nov 2013 #12

Dude, I'm no fan, but the timing of your post is tactless. Glassunion Nov 2013 #16

It provides good government jobs for people who otherwise might not have one frazzled Nov 2013 #18

That's a pretty lame reason Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #23

People said that about the WPA, the Conservation Corps, and other ... frazzled Nov 2013 #30

No, it just makes flying a pain in the ass. Throd Nov 2013 #61

How about we have 2 checkpoints instead of 1 under that dumb logic. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #47

I don't hate the agents. yorgatron Nov 2013 #20

How would privatized security guards be any less oppressive or intrusive? geek tragedy Nov 2013 #21

Privatization of government services is RW claptrap. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #35

Private security paid for by the airlines is the way it used to be. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2013 #53

TSA is a pain in the ass Link Speed Nov 2013 #25

They just restarted Clear in my area.. Buddha_of_Wisdom Nov 2013 #26

Thanks! It's now in place here. Link Speed Nov 2013 #36

TSA pre, and some places have lanes for preferred tiers jberryhill Nov 2013 #39

What a rotten post in the wake of the death of a TSA agent OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #28

Really, you think they stop anything? Where are the terrorists? Because if they..... Logical Nov 2013 #48

They keep amateurs from trying to take weapons onto an aircraft. OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #62

Bullshit. They have you believing it. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #63

TSA Finds Guns on Hundreds of Passengers Each Year OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #64

Those would of been found before 9/11. And the lotion, shoes, bullshit is just bullshit...... Logical Nov 2013 #65

My heart bleeds for those who had to remove shoes and take a laptop out of a bag OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #66

Your logic is amazing..... Logical Nov 2013 #67

Aircraft in flight are fairly fragile OmahaBlueDog Nov 2013 #72

Wait, the TSA was fully in place and this guy still died. Not sure what your point is. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #70

This kind of rhetoric leads to gunmen opening fire on innocent workers. KY5 Nov 2013 #29

The fucking post should have been banned. Why wasn't it? nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #38

pretty much anything that isn't a personal insult won't get hidden. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #40

FAIL on so many levels. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #32

Jesus,if ever the phrase "too soon" was in order sufrommich Nov 2013 #33

Sorry the guy got shot. GoneOffShore Nov 2013 #34

THIS is the type of attitude that resulted in a human being being killed today. bluestate10 Nov 2013 #37

So you think some want-to-be murderer is reading this? n-t Logical Nov 2013 #49

My God. How can you post something like this today? nolabear Nov 2013 #42

None of the 9/11 hijackers would have been stopped by today's TSA. Deep13 Nov 2013 #43

Disgusting. Today? You have to post this shit today? joeybee12 Nov 2013 #44

Has anyone alerted? joeybee12 Nov 2013 #45

Feel free. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #50

Jury results: Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #56

Thanks. joeybee12 Nov 2013 #59

I'm perfectly happy with the security level that they had customerserviceguy Nov 2013 #51

You get a free x-ray liberal N proud Nov 2013 #52

Sucking at life. WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #55

they found my watch that had fallen out of my plastic receptacle spanone Nov 2013 #57

It is all for the appearance of "security" mikeysnot Nov 2013 #58

A friend of mine is a TSA agent in Terminal 3 at LAX. He was there today. He's still there I heard. Beaverhausen Nov 2013 #60

It is the divide between the people of this country, who are not scared of terrorists Rex Nov 2013 #69

If it wasn't for the TSA, I wouldn't have a sex life. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #71