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In reply to the discussion: Daylight Saving Time Is Terrible: Here's a Simple Plan to Fix It (DST ends Sun, Nov 3) [View all]Scuba
(53,475 posts)54. I like his idea of only having two time zones in the US ....
This year, Americans on Eastern Standard Time should set their clocks back one hour (like normal), Americans on Central and Rocky Mountain time do nothing, and Americans on Pacific time should set their clocks forward one hour. After that we wont change our clocks againno more daylight saving. This will result in just two time zones for the continental United States. The east and west coasts will only be one hour apart. Anyone who lives on one coast and does business with the other can imagine the uncountable benefits of living in a two-time-zone nation (excluding Alaska and Hawaii).
It sounds radical, but it really isnt. The purpose of uniform time measures is coordination. How we measure time has always evolved with the needs of commerce. According to Time and Date, a Norwegian Newsletter dedicated to time zone information, America started using four time zones in 1883. Before that, each city had its own time standard based on its calculation of apparent solar time (when the sun is directly over-head at noon) using sundials. That led to more than 300 different American time zones. This made operations very difficult for the telegraph and burgeoning railroad industry. Railroads operated with 100 different time zones before America moved to four, which was consistent with Britains push for a global time standard. The following year, at the International Meridian Conference, it was decided that the entire world could coordinate time keeping based on the British Prime Meridian (except for France, which claimed the Prime Median ran through Paris until 1911). There are now 24 (or 25, depending on your existential view of the international date line) time zones, each taking about 15 degrees of longitude.
Now the world has evolved furtherwe are even more integrated and mobile, suggesting wed benefit from fewer, more stable time zones. Why stick with a system designed for commerce in 1883? In reality, America already functions on fewer than four time zones. I spent the last three years commuting between New York and Austin, living on both Eastern and Central time. I found that in Austin, everyone did things at the same times they do them in New York, despite the difference in time zone. People got to work at 8 am instead of 9 am, restaurants were packed at 6 pm instead of 7 pm, and even the TV schedule was an hour earlier. But for the last three years I lived in a state of constant confusion, I rarely knew the time and was perpetually an hour late or early. And for what purpose? If everyone functions an hour earlier anyway, in part to coordinate with other parts of the country, the different time zones lose meaning and are reduced to an arbitrary inconvenience. Research based on time use surveys found Americans schedules are determined by television more than daylight. That suggests in effect, Americans already live on two time zones.
It sounds radical, but it really isnt. The purpose of uniform time measures is coordination. How we measure time has always evolved with the needs of commerce. According to Time and Date, a Norwegian Newsletter dedicated to time zone information, America started using four time zones in 1883. Before that, each city had its own time standard based on its calculation of apparent solar time (when the sun is directly over-head at noon) using sundials. That led to more than 300 different American time zones. This made operations very difficult for the telegraph and burgeoning railroad industry. Railroads operated with 100 different time zones before America moved to four, which was consistent with Britains push for a global time standard. The following year, at the International Meridian Conference, it was decided that the entire world could coordinate time keeping based on the British Prime Meridian (except for France, which claimed the Prime Median ran through Paris until 1911). There are now 24 (or 25, depending on your existential view of the international date line) time zones, each taking about 15 degrees of longitude.
Now the world has evolved furtherwe are even more integrated and mobile, suggesting wed benefit from fewer, more stable time zones. Why stick with a system designed for commerce in 1883? In reality, America already functions on fewer than four time zones. I spent the last three years commuting between New York and Austin, living on both Eastern and Central time. I found that in Austin, everyone did things at the same times they do them in New York, despite the difference in time zone. People got to work at 8 am instead of 9 am, restaurants were packed at 6 pm instead of 7 pm, and even the TV schedule was an hour earlier. But for the last three years I lived in a state of constant confusion, I rarely knew the time and was perpetually an hour late or early. And for what purpose? If everyone functions an hour earlier anyway, in part to coordinate with other parts of the country, the different time zones lose meaning and are reduced to an arbitrary inconvenience. Research based on time use surveys found Americans schedules are determined by television more than daylight. That suggests in effect, Americans already live on two time zones.
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Daylight Saving Time Is Terrible: Here's a Simple Plan to Fix It (DST ends Sun, Nov 3) [View all]
ChisolmTrailDem
Nov 2013
OP
That is backwards. Tonight the sun sets at 6, tomorrow it sets at 5. Or do you mean in the morning?
uppityperson
Nov 2013
#9
This weekend we get off DSL. We fall back an hour, so rather than sun setting for example
uppityperson
Nov 2013
#21
The person said he had more evening daylight in winter. It will be darker
sinkingfeeling
Nov 2013
#25
I think farmers are smart enough to do their jobs no matter what the clock says.
former9thward
Nov 2013
#74
Just to clarify, I'm not the author of the article and I do like DST. However,
ChisolmTrailDem
Nov 2013
#8
Would love to see it go away. I get up before sunrise no matter what time
sinkingfeeling
Nov 2013
#4
No. Daylight savings doesn't add anymore sunlit hours to the day. I have
sinkingfeeling
Nov 2013
#23
I chill no matter what time it is, sun or moon. =) Just thought it'd make for a good discussion. nt
ChisolmTrailDem
Nov 2013
#13
If I had lots of money, and was oblivious to creating a larger carbon footprint...
Silent3
Nov 2013
#19
I hate daylight savings time, I wish they would leave it a standard permanently. Stop messing
Raine
Nov 2013
#20
Doesn't matter to me. I sleep 'til I wake up and go to bed when I can't find my drink.
Link Speed
Nov 2013
#35
Perhaps not surprisingly, the "plan to fix it" is to get rid of it. Oh, and to put the entire West
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#39
I'm not against DST as a whole, but it may not be needed everywhere, either.
AverageJoe90
Nov 2013
#59
It sounds like it is because you haven't worked a job without flex time since college, then
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2013
#66