Did Bill Cliinton really 'win the election' for Obama in 2012

[karynnj]

54. Actually I doubt ANY Republican could have won 2008 no matter who won the nomination -except Edwards

McCain tried to run as a "change" from Bush - it didn't work and he was really poor candidate leading to a landslide.

Romney was in some ways both a very flawed candidate and one who might have been the best chance the Republicans had - certainly better than anyone in the clown show who ever had a remote chance of getting the nomination. (ie everyone but Huntsman) because he could claim to be a moderate.

He was a pretty flawed candidate, but I would bet that if he had a better team than the MA team that he and Scott Brown shared, he might have pulled it off - if the 47% tape think all politicians assume when they are the nominee - that potentially anything they say can be taped. The fact that Fehrstrom raised the idea that between the primaries and general election, Romney's positions could be considered to as if written on an etch -a-sketch was also devastating meaning either Romney had no positions or convictions -- or he was willing to change them at will. This was already a Democratic accusation - and they could even use Teddy Kennedy's years old claim that Romney was neither pro choice or anti choice -- but multi choice.

It would be ironic if McCain and Romney have as a legacy that the party goes far right pointing out that picking "moderates" didn't work - right at an election that could possibly be tougher - giving the victory to Hillary or whoever else is our candidate.