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In reply to the discussion: Pope Francis drives an '84 Renault... [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)Combative, too! I think some of that fear you're talking about is coming from you!
Everyone here agrees, you say? How about these people? Do they "hate and persecute others?" Do they "Treat them as inferior?"
http://www.newwaysministry.org/
I don't think they agree with you at all. And I'll bet most of 'em are Democrats, too. Shall we toss THEM over the side because they don't see things "your" way?
You assume "facts" not in evidence, and you're pretty darned rude when you do it, too. Hide thread is your friend, as I said. All you're doing by lashing out at people (and that includes gay people, too) who have hope for a better church based on the signals this new guy has been putting out. Why do you care so much that you want to crush their hope for a better place of worship, that's the question, here. Why is it so important to you to stomp on their desires?
You probably ought to ask those Catholics (to include our VP, Joe Biden) how they feel before you condemn them with your "pontificating" commentaries. Or, you can read this study:
http://publicreligion.org/research/2011/03/for-catholics-open-attitudes-on-gay-issues/
It's pretty obvious that the Catholic Church is (albeit slowly, ponderously and painfully) headed in the right direction. I'm not going to stop them and repeatedly, incessantly, and with an "unforgiven" attitude, scold them for past behavior if they're on the right track. You don't have that ability, I notice. That's a bit of a flaw, IMO. You shouldn't take these things so personally. It doesn't do you any good. You should also read the study I've linked to, above, because you don't have an accurate view at all of how the Catholics actually feel about equality issues, these days.