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xmas74

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22. Are you calling me out?

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:42 PM

Nov 2013

We had a discussion about this a couple of days' ago and I do feel like I'm one of the people you are referring to.

In other words, I'm a bigot in your eyes. Thanks for the clarification. I'm sure that a number of other long time members needed to be reminded that you view us all as bigots.

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*EDITED*If you are showering unqualified praise and admiration onto an openly bigoted person.... [View all] eqfan592 Nov 2013 OP

is this about that football/sports guy? Whisp Nov 2013 #1

Is this about the Pope?!?! blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #2

Updated for clarification. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #3

this is just namecalling Enrique Nov 2013 #4

Oh, I thought it was another Ezra Pound thread. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2013 #5

How dare you mention the poetry of a fascist. rug Nov 2013 #10

I like that little piece of poetry, regardless, and am stealing it. freshwest Nov 2013 #80

Watch out, somebody will call you out for admiring a fascist collaborator. rug Nov 2013 #83

Nothing wrong with admiring him. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #86

I didn't call you hateful. I said your criticism was simple-minded. rug Nov 2013 #89

So thinking the pope needs to continue to be called out on his bigotry is simple minded. Got it. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #91

Kindly use my actual words if you want to state my position. rug Nov 2013 #93

They always make sense to me. I don't understand those who want them to fit in their narrow views. freshwest Nov 2013 #87

Do you own a mirror? Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #6

Oh please do enlighten me. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #12

for some of us that includes family. i am glad i am old enough to get nuance and roguevalley Nov 2013 #53

I don't live in an either/or land. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #55

This is so simple-minded a paradigm, I'm not so sure you understand what actual bigotry is. rug Nov 2013 #7

I'm not sure you understand what the term "unqualified" means. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #9

What about President Obama before he finished "evolving" on same sex marriage? BlueCheese Nov 2013 #8

Again, i said "unqualified." eqfan592 Nov 2013 #11

I don't see people praising Pope Francis unconditionally. BlueCheese Nov 2013 #14

I've seen a ton of it. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #15

That doesn't mean they don't disagree with certain of his positions. BlueCheese Nov 2013 #19

Again, i don't think the two situations are directly comparable, for reasons stated earlier. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #20

Yeah! I like the Pope. What's it to you? TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #33

Non committal?????? Hardly. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #39

That attitude is an example of the Left's worst enemy is itself. MicaelS Nov 2013 #13

Sorry, but what bull. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #18

he is moving in the right Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #76

I'm sorry, but "don't talk so much about our bigoted position" doesn't count as moving... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #78

The OP is really not among the Left gulliver Nov 2013 #114

I certainly agree… Tikki Nov 2013 #16

But he drives a Renault!!... SidDithers Nov 2013 #17

I think people are hopeful with the new pope. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #21

I understand that. However, he has a bad track record. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #27

From what I have seen here people like him but make clear that they want him to change things. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #82

my real anger stems from the fact that those of us that dared to question... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #88

I do not think anyone who points out where the RCC or any other church or religion is wrong is hrmjustin Nov 2013 #92

Are you calling me out? xmas74 Nov 2013 #22

That you feel this is directed at you says more about you than me. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #23

It says that you know nothing about the posters here xmas74 Nov 2013 #25

Then that's your problem. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #30

Some people like to stir shit up to get attention...... TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #35

I know some do xmas74 Nov 2013 #41

I thought you were talking about President Obama pre 2012 before I got to kelly1mm Nov 2013 #24

The president never said anything in the same ballpark as the pope. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #34

Simple question: Is supporting civil unions only and not marriage equality a kelly1mm Nov 2013 #40

Yes, it is. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #46

OK, fair enough. If I understand your argument you believe that pre2012 President Obama was a bigot kelly1mm Nov 2013 #50

Unqualified praise, yes. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #54

That is true, many here did point out his position as being bigoted. However, there were MANY kelly1mm Nov 2013 #64

No, that would be difficult to say the least. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #70

OK. And THANK YOU for fully explaining your position! I understand your point much better kelly1mm Nov 2013 #74

You're welcome. :) eqfan592 Nov 2013 #75

Like me you probably didn't call candidate Obama a bigot when you knocked doors (I assume in 2008). eomer Nov 2013 #111

3 to 3 newcriminal Nov 2013 #26

I've had three people send me a link to this thread xmas74 Nov 2013 #29

I'm juror number 6. newcriminal Nov 2013 #31

I'm tired of the same old whining on here xmas74 Nov 2013 #36

Yeah, screw gay rights and women's rights!!! He kissed a sick person and that's good enough, right? eqfan592 Nov 2013 #38

Screw women's rights xmas74 Nov 2013 #44

Given the number of women I've seen vote republican... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #47

So now that makes me anti-woman. xmas74 Nov 2013 #49

You keep applying all these labels to yourself, not i. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #51

I'm not naming names but someone in this thread is a shit-stirrer! TheDebbieDee Nov 2013 #117

Oh? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #63

Instead of following me around xmas74 Nov 2013 #69

I have a feeling John Hurt is either Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #72

I thought Valeyard at first xmas74 Nov 2013 #85

Oh I hope Capaldi lasts longer than 13 episodes. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #97

You're welcome. xmas74 Nov 2013 #100

I have not. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #103

np nt xmas74 Nov 2013 #105

Despite our different views on the Pope, I'm glad we can still get along. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #108

Thank you for going along with it. xmas74 Nov 2013 #110

Results from the Jury.... Taitertots Nov 2013 #28

Good...you can think I'm a bigot, you can think whatever your little mind needs you to think DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #32

You like him, in spite of him failing to make a single substantive change to church policy... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #37

Yes, I do like him. Was that not clear to you the first time around? DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #42

If you want to say you like this guy... eqfan592 Nov 2013 #48

Agree. It has been sickening. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #43

Catholic Bishops Oppose Discrimination, Oppose ENDA Too William769 Nov 2013 #45

It's observationally the second. Chan790 Nov 2013 #68

This is about the PETA supporters? Earth_First Nov 2013 #52

So, what's your opinion of Salvador Dali's artwork? Scootaloo Nov 2013 #56

I know little about him truth be told. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #58

I think people can be decent and be assholes at different times of the day Scootaloo Nov 2013 #116

Meh. Looked at objectively, it's an excellent study in how media-driven LadyHawkAZ Nov 2013 #57

If he were to enact substantive change, I'd be the first to applaud. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #62

Enact? He's pretty much the king of Catholicism. Deep13 Nov 2013 #66

Are you kidding? eqfan592 Nov 2013 #77

Why should I care that some online poster who doesn't even know me Contrary1 Nov 2013 #59

I don't like it because it is false. Deep13 Nov 2013 #60

The issue about the president has been gone over already in this thread. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #65

I'm not reading this whole thing. My response is to you directly. Deep13 Nov 2013 #67

So i should rehash an entire conversation already held because you can't be bothered to scroll? eqfan592 Nov 2013 #71

THANK. YOU. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #61

Well than could you at least provide a list Glassunion Nov 2013 #73

they want the votes Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #79

Once again, unqualified is the key word here. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #84

So no one on the planet is worthy of praise? Glassunion Nov 2013 #96

The admins provided SOP for General Discussion that says no threads about religion Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #118

That is not true. There are posts all the time in GD from atheist talking about religion. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #121

Bear in mind that until May 2012 Barack Obama was on the record as opposing gay marriage. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #81

I criticized him for that the entire time. Obama never said any of the horrors Francis Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #119

trashing thread. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #90

Eqfan, I think there's maybe a better way to go about this discussion... Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #94

*sigh* you're right. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #95

It happens to all of us, I've posted some things out of frustration that I regret Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #101

I think you summed up my feelings on the subject far better than i have so far with this post. eqfan592 Nov 2013 #106

I hope most here are sincere enough to refuse to alter Skip Intro Nov 2013 #98

When this Pope was first selected I thought as you did about him Bjorn Against Nov 2013 #99

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #102

K&R idwiyo Nov 2013 #104

He has made a few good gestures Warpy Nov 2013 #107

Define unqualified please.... cynatnite Nov 2013 #109

K&R JoeyT Nov 2013 #112

No one here is doing that. Do you understand what "unqualified praise" is? cali Nov 2013 #113

Criticism of a man whose rhetoric states that I am an attack on God is not hate Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #120

He's just more "likable." More like Pope JP2 than that most recent terror. alphafemale Nov 2013 #115