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Bluenorthwest

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45. You ignore the fact that many who oppose abortion rights also oppose other forms

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 10:04 AM

Nov 2013

of birth control. Francis says all of it is wrong. The RCC has clear anti birth control teachings. So how does adding mention of another form of that which they see as 'sin' do anything for the folks who oppose condoms and pills?
Like all health care it should be legal, safe, covered under health care plans and also private. It is not your concern what other methods were used, nor if any were used. And to repeat, the opponents of choice are opponents of choice, they oppose any form of birth control because what they favor is that the choices all lay with church and State, not with the individual.

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OK. How about "safe, legal and SECONDARY TO BIRTH CONTROL?" [View all] sibelian Nov 2013 OP

How about just "safe and legal"? REP Nov 2013 #1

+1 Laffy Kat Nov 2013 #2

+2 SunSeeker Nov 2013 #3

Hm! sibelian Nov 2013 #4

That is the language right there on point Nov 2013 #14

People don't use this language for anything else in health care gollygee Nov 2013 #5

TBH, I'd never head the phrase used before seeing it on DU. sibelian Nov 2013 #11

Safe, legal and PRIVATE Ava Gadro Nov 2013 #6

^^^THIS^^^ TorchTheWitch Nov 2013 #8

Yeah. Definitely coming round to that... sibelian Nov 2013 #10

I getyour point but I'm not sure adding "private" will do very much. CTyankee Nov 2013 #12

That's not a bad idea. CTyankee Nov 2013 #7

It already is secondary quaker bill Nov 2013 #9

nope. still none of anyone else's business why a woman needs to terminate. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #13

+1 theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #15

Rare means different things to different people. boston bean Nov 2013 #16

Exactly. That's why I discuss with liberals who use that antiquated phrase whenever I can. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #17

I like to add that women are moral agents and therefore, can make these decisions on their own. CTyankee Nov 2013 #29

control-z's signature of "Trust women" sums that up perfectly. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #30

correct! CTyankee Nov 2013 #32

... sibelian Nov 2013 #33

oh, I was responding to you PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #34

Excellent post..K&R haikugal Nov 2013 #52

Great post... prairierose Nov 2013 #56

Must there be a marketing/campaign meme? HereSince1628 Nov 2013 #18

How about "between a woman and her doctor"? Skidmore Nov 2013 #19

Even some pro-choice people consider abortion to be wrong. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #20

Correction: Until abortion has the same legal status as any other health procedure PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #22

That wouldn't really change what I wrote. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #26

we're discussing, not condemning. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #28

There will always be "soft supporters." NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #40

I still don't get how it's anybody else's business ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #27

So nobody else even gets to discuss it? NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #38

Honestly, no, you shouldn't have an opinion on healthcare choices of ANYONE. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #39

Fair enough. I'm out of here. NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #41

Awesome. Step aside, there's work to be done to restore women's rights. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #42

you would gain mire support Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #51

but as I say elsewhere here, women are "moral agents" and are capable of making "moral choice" on CTyankee Nov 2013 #31

Vasectomy means never having to say you're sorry. Safe, legal vasectomy Zorra Nov 2013 #21

Mine wasn't free... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #23

Safe and Legal are matters of law... Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2013 #24

Just "none of anybody's" business ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #25

Another mistake you made: Abortion *IS* a form of birth control. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #35

How about safe, legal and available without restrictions...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #36

afuckingmen. Canada's success is a role model to the world. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #37

How about nobody's business but the woman? giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #43

how about "get lawmakers the hell out of doctors exam rooms"? Doctor_J Nov 2013 #44

What if a lawmaker proposes free access to condoms for all high school students, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #47

I don't see what your post has to do with lawmakers interference in the doctor-patient Doctor_J Nov 2013 #48

Nothing. And that's precisely my point. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #49

You ignore the fact that many who oppose abortion rights also oppose other forms Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #45

your body your decision, not by bidness elehhhhna Nov 2013 #46

I prefer the phrase "Safe, legal and NOT MY DAMN BUSINESS". renie408 Nov 2013 #50

How about "Like other medical procedures"? ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #53

Yes, birth control would be so much easier treestar Nov 2013 #54

NO!!!! instead Safe, Legal and a Personal Choice! Drew Richards Nov 2013 #55

safe legal, and readily available to those who need it. bettyellen Nov 2013 #57

This is why I almost never post in threads about abortion. Brigid Nov 2013 #58

Do you support the sweeping restrictions that have been happening in every state? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #59

It should be secondary to birth control. Otherwise we will see a rise in STI's. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #60

Safe, legal and none of your business any more than my appendectomy was. nt DevonRex Nov 2013 #61