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35. If birth control weren't being used, the abortion rate wouldn't hold steady/decline

Reply to liberal_at_heart (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 07:36 PM

Nov 2013

It would increase each and every year.

Those judgeypants don't look good on you anyway.

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Contraception failure rates per method [View all] REP Nov 2013 OP

Thank you. idwiyo Nov 2013 #1

There's always the misapprehension that "if these damn sluts would just use The Pill!" REP Nov 2013 #3

I am wondering how long it will take before someone demands we use two methods at once. idwiyo Nov 2013 #23

Adoption, not abortion, emotionally damages women. REP Nov 2013 #25

Oral contraceptives were 100% effective for me over the course of 30 years. kestrel91316 Nov 2013 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author REP Nov 2013 #4

That's nice. REP Nov 2013 #5

Good for you. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that for everyone. idwiyo Nov 2013 #6

It might have worked for me if REP Nov 2013 #11

... idwiyo Nov 2013 #12

The key words here are laundry_queen Nov 2013 #8

When I was 17 OwnedByCats Nov 2013 #67

The abortion rate has fallen from ~29 per 1000 females aged 15-44 in the 80s to 15.1 NoOneMan Nov 2013 #7

Never mind that access to abortion got severely restricted since 80' idwiyo Nov 2013 #15

Note that these are for typical use, not correct use or even consistent use. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2013 #9

Unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world. idwiyo Nov 2013 #16

These studies show they are used correctly more often than not REP Nov 2013 #19

You would think implants would be more popular ... surrealAmerican Nov 2013 #10

Access, side-effects, and difficulties in removing them REP Nov 2013 #13

Two reasons why my wife does not use the implant Glassunion Nov 2013 #14

Upfront costs are fairly high Small Accumulates Nov 2013 #17

my daughter just got implenon. It's an implant they put in your arm. She is having some liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #36

As with injectibles, the side effects can be terrible. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #53

Where's the religious method of rhythm? nt valerief Nov 2013 #18

I didn't include that, though it's at the link. REP Nov 2013 #21

Ha! I see it. 24%. Thanks. valerief Nov 2013 #22

actually that isn't all that much worse than condoms dsc Nov 2013 #28

That's 'cause "typical use" for a condom jeff47 Nov 2013 #59

I realize why the condom numbers are high dsc Nov 2013 #62

If it's done properly, rhythm works well. jeff47 Nov 2013 #70

Let's see. gollygee Nov 2013 #74

And even harder if the woman has an irregular cycle REP Nov 2013 #75

Also, you can make some of the methods more effective pnwmom Nov 2013 #20

Regarding failure rates for the pill/shot B2G Nov 2013 #24

It's every 13 weeks, actually, but it takes 10 months for fertility to return once discontinued REP Nov 2013 #26

The pull out method doesn't work... giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #27

How about vascetomy? GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #29

Surgical vasectomy - .15%; Tubal ligation - .5% - not "ZERO" REP Nov 2013 #30

Vasectomy appears to be the most effective form of birth control Zorra Nov 2013 #31

Tubal ligation/fulguration is portable and permanent, though REP Nov 2013 #32

True, it's a top option if you're sure you don't want children, or more children. Zorra Nov 2013 #56

Especially in your doctor! REP Nov 2013 #58

I assume you mean the woman trusting the man. There is a simple solution. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #66

My doctor said he cut 'em, banded 'em, and burned 'em... cynatnite Nov 2013 #49

That's why my doc did a fulguration - my healing powers are freakish REP Nov 2013 #51

I had my vasectomy fail. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #65

There are TWO methods of vasectomy. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #64

Surgical sterilization is a great choice for some people gollygee Nov 2013 #33

Sterilizations are often denied to young women who absolutely want one REP Nov 2013 #38

It wasn't that long ago that women had to get their husband's permission... cynatnite Nov 2013 #50

I know. It shouldn't be. REP Nov 2013 #52

Doctors have to protect themselves from lawsuits. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #68

Informed consent makes the doctor sue-proof REP Nov 2013 #73

It only takes one lawsuit to be expensive for a doctor. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #78

the failure rate is not the issue. The issue is people either not having access to it, choosing not liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #34

If birth control weren't being used, the abortion rate wouldn't hold steady/decline REP Nov 2013 #35

I don't give a damn what you think of me. You will not change my mind, since you are liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #37

But I wuvs you!! REP Nov 2013 #39

lol @ "judgeypants" PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #40

I was not expecting so many on DU to be so backwards on preventing unwanted pregnancy and STI's. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #41

whooooooosh PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #43

STDs, no apostrophe. You're welcome. REP Nov 2013 #44

I knew it was, but my standards are super low REP Nov 2013 #42

trashing thread PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #45

It's a her. REP Nov 2013 #46

Pedantic: The number of abortions would go up, but the rate would remain unchanged jeff47 Nov 2013 #60

Not necessarily REP Nov 2013 #61

Right, but "increase every year" implies not correcting for population growth. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #69

When I worked in OBGYN... cynatnite Nov 2013 #47

And with the ACA, let's hope more women will be able to see a doctor REP Nov 2013 #48

Condom failure rate if used correctly is 2-3% FreeState Nov 2013 #54

Real-world numbers vs "perfect use" REP Nov 2013 #55

Education can fix a large portion of that 10% FreeState Nov 2013 #57

The demographics of people who have the experience to use condoms effectively lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #72

Wow! I was unaware of the oral contraceptives failure rate. The others run as I expected. freshwest Nov 2013 #63

That's a "real world" rate jeff47 Nov 2013 #77

It is long past time for a male birth control pill. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #71

yes! Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #76