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proverbialwisdom

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36. More here. I regard this material as factual (see extensive footnotes), neutral, essential reading.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:45 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Sat Jan 18, 2014, 09:16 PM - Edit history (1)

First citation below added on edit to refute inaccurate and ridiculous NVIC dismissals which follow post and refer to second citation.

http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/November-2013/Stephanie-Christner-Appointed-to-Serve-on-FDA’s-Va.aspx

Stephanie Christner Appointed to FDA Vaccine Advisory Committee
Posted: 11/11/2013 5:08:45 PM


Stephanie Christner, DO, has been appointed to a four-year term as the voting consumer representative on the Vaccines & Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC) of the Food & Drug Administration (FDA). On Nov. 13, 2013, she will participate in her first meeting as a member of VRBPAC, a 12-member FDA committee that reviews and evaluates vaccine safety, effectiveness and appropriate use of vaccines and biological products intended for public use, including clinical trial and other data submitted by drug companies seeking licensure of new vaccines.

Honoring Her Daughter & Advocating for Vaccine Education

Stephanie Christner, DO, is a Board Member of the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC). Her infant daughter, Victoria, died on Valentine’s Day 2009 after reactions to a series of vaccinations she received at two and four months old. In honor of her daughter, Dr. Christner founded “Valentine’s for Victoria,” educational fundraisers held in 2010 and 2011 supporting NVIC’s charitable public education and advocacy work. Dr. Christner’s personal experience and professional perspective on the need for greater physician and parent vaccine education was featured in the award winning 2011 film documentary The Greater Good.

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http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Whooping-Cough.aspx

[center]National VaccineInformation Center
Your Health. Your Family. Your Choice.

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The following information is provided to help you understand the disease pertussis (whooping cough) and the pertussis vaccine so you can make an informed decision regarding use of this vaccine. Information on this website with links to other websites and resources will help you become educated about many infectious diseases and vaccines so you can take control of and responsibility for your health choices. This information is not intended to serve as medical advice but as background information that you can use to educate yourself.

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What Is the Incidence of Pertussis in the US?

In 1922, there were 107,473 pertussis cases reported in the U.S. with 5,099 deaths. Mortality associated with pertussis declined dramatically in the 1940’s as living conditions improved, including sanitation and hygiene and access to health care. During the past quarter century, reports of whooping cough cases have increased among babies less than six months old and among teenagers and adults but mortality has remained low.

In 2010, out of a U.S. population of 308 million people, there were about 27,500 reported cases of pertussis including 27 deaths, with 25 deaths occurring in infants under age one year. However, many cases of whooping cough are never diagnosed or reported. Every four to five years, there are reported increases in whooping cough disease in the U.S. and other countries, no matter how high the vaccination rate.

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How Effective Is Pertussis Vaccine?

Most public health officials maintain that when pertussis vaccine is used on a widespread basis in a population, it appears to lessen the overall incidence of the disease and that vaccinated children have less severe cases of pertussis whooping cough. When pertussis vaccination rates fell to about 30 percent in Sweden, West Germany, England, and Japan in the 1970’s, these countries saw major increases in reported cases of the disease within three years of that drop in widespread use.

However, in 1984, Swedish epidemiologist B. Trollfors concluded that whole cell B. pertussis vaccines are only effective for 2 to 5 years. He pointed out that even countries with a 90-95 percent vaccination rate (such as the U.S.) could not completely prevent the disease.

According to a 2005 study in the journal, Pediatrics, pertussis containing DTP and DTaP vaccines were estimated to be from 83.6 percent to as much as 97.7 percent effective, depending on the number of doses administered, the combinations of vaccine used in the shot containing pertussis vaccine, and age of the child at which it was administered,

In 2010, an analysis of a California whooping cough outbreak published in the medical literature revealed that more than 80% were fully vaccinated and pertussis vaccine effectiveness was only between 24% and 41% in children two to 18 years old after three years from the date of vaccination.

In 2012, the CDC acknowledged that pertussis vaccine immunity has waned in older children, that DTaP/Tdap immunity begins to wane within five years of vaccination and that unvaccinated individuals and children with vaccine exemptions are not to blame for current whooping cough outbreaks.

There is another Bordetella pertussis whooping cough disease called B. parapertussis. Symptoms of B. parapertussis whooping cough can look identical to B, pertussis whooping cough but they are usually milder. B, parapertussis is increasing in the U.S. and other countries, which have had high pertussis vaccination rates for few decades. There are estimates that perhaps up to 30 percent of whooping cough disease in highly vaccinated populations may be caused by B. parapertussis organisms.

It is possible to have both B. pertussis and B. parapertussis infections at the same time. Parapertussis is often milder than B. pertussis but can also involve serious complications which lead to pneumonia and death.

Pertussis vaccines widely used around the world do not protect against parapertussis. There is no vaccine for parapertussis.

There is also some evidence that B. pertussis bacteria may have evolved to become vaccine resistant.

Other evidence points to emerging pertussis strains that are not covered in the current DTaP/Tdap and DTP pertussis containing vaccines used in the U.S. and globally.

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Conclusion

It is important to be equally concerned and knowledgeable about the risks of pertussis disease as we are about the risks of pertussis vaccine. Both B, pertussis whooping cough and the pertussis vaccine carry risks. Pertussis disease has the potential to cause seizures, brain damage, and even death, just as the vaccine can.

Most of America’s medical community believes that the risk of serious injury or death from pertussis is greater than the risk of injury or death which can be caused by pertussis vaccine. However, recognition of and concern about the risks of pertussis disease does not diminish our need and responsibility to acknowledge the need to minimize pertussis vaccine risks.

The challenge today is for parents, physicians, scientists, manufacturers and health officials to recognize the risks of both the disease and the vaccine and work to protect the health and well being of every child.

DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #1
Have you gotten your adult pertussis vaccine? The OP obviously didn't. pnwmom Nov 2013 #71
Considering pertussis is coupled with tetanus and diphtheria... Barack_America Nov 2013 #111
Thanks! Posted this in E&E, but can't recommend my own posts . . . hatrack Nov 2013 #2
Why didn't the writer get a booster shot? PADemD Nov 2013 #3
It's always easy to blame others for one's own mistakes. Pathwalker Nov 2013 #7
In the same boat iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #9
Is anyone saying you and your son are part of the problem? No. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #18
Anti-vaccinaters were around for DECADES before Jenny was born. Pathwalker Nov 2013 #44
Sure, there were a few, but McCarthy spewed her ignorance and made it mainstream. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #76
Thanks. Similar with my daughter. elleng Nov 2013 #21
One case does not matter, but herd immunity is good epidemiology Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #48
I blame each and EVERY parent who chooses to not vaccinate, Pathwalker Nov 2013 #52
The problem with stupid people is that they refuse to acknowledgr and accept their Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #55
Half the problem is people listening to celebrities in the first place. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #86
What was the one in the sugar cube with the pink dot? Maraya1969 Nov 2013 #110
my memory says it's polio catrose Nov 2013 #115
Because adults didn't have to bother before jeff47 Nov 2013 #12
My area is a 2-hour plane ride away. PADemD Nov 2013 #19
And if everyone was like you, this wouldn't be a problem. jeff47 Nov 2013 #22
Many have done that, but you can hear about this and think... Moonwalk Nov 2013 #14
If you are going to blame parents and Jenny McCarthy, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #79
Small oversight... gcomeau Nov 2013 #38
Being vaccinated is not a 100% guarantee that you won't catch the illness. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #40
Yes. I got an adult DPT shot SheilaT Nov 2013 #46
Not everyone knows that childhood immunizations wear off, and geek tragedy Nov 2013 #64
Exactly. The OP is blaming J.M. for his own failure to get the vaccine. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #70
+1 n/t truedelphi Nov 2013 #116
You should read up on herd immunity. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #138
I know all about herd immunity, and it is especially important pnwmom Nov 2013 #139
It hasn't been out that long and adults aren't recommended for it Warpy Nov 2013 #101
While you were hospitalized they should have advised you that adults can be vaccinated anytime Tdap lunasun Nov 2013 #4
See post #14 and you're responding to an article posted, not the poster of said article. Moonwalk Nov 2013 #16
Get vaccinated! Mz Pip Nov 2013 #5
Don't forget a shingles vaccine (if applicable)! DemoTex Nov 2013 #34
I got one a few years ago. Mz Pip Nov 2013 #59
You can now get the Shingles vaccine at age 50 pokerfan Nov 2013 #65
I hadn't heard that. Good info to spread around, thanks! n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #72
I had chicken pox as a kid - TBF Nov 2013 #102
Yes, but ask your doctor pokerfan Nov 2013 #103
I am going to ask about this and pertussis - TBF Nov 2013 #104
Yes, you can get shingles as an adult if you had chickenpox as a kid. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #105
can even get them as a kid MissMillie Nov 2013 #128
Yeah, you can. Lucky you. winter is coming Nov 2013 #129
Shaking my head pipi_k Nov 2013 #6
Your SIL seriously... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #33
OK, just double checked... pipi_k Nov 2013 #37
I'm a nurse myself... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #77
Actually, I understand you can, in rare cases. quakerboy Nov 2013 #144
Wow. Had no idea whooping cough vaccine wears off. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #8
Yeah. One of my kid's teachers just got revaccinated because one of her children came down with winter is coming Nov 2013 #13
I didn't know either hibbing Nov 2013 #15
Many, maybe all vaccines wear off in time. SheilaT Nov 2013 #49
Nor I. I'm glad I read this! nt Union Scribe Nov 2013 #67
The newest Tetanus booster (DTaP) shot (every 10 years) has whooping cough included. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #123
This is exactly how I got my poster for Whooping cough, just 2 years ago. n/t Sheepshank Nov 2013 #137
OMG, how stupid. closeupready Nov 2013 #10
I got a booster a couple of years ago. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #11
We have lost the memory of how bad childhood diseases used to be central scrutinizer Nov 2013 #17
I teach an exercise class at the YMCA and though it is an adult class.... Moonwalk Nov 2013 #20
The Jenny McCarthy Body Count...... Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #23
Thanks for the link. JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #28
I always get medical advice from Jenny dem in texas Nov 2013 #24
What's scary is how many people will believe anti-science craziness is 'mainstream' geek tragedy Nov 2013 #25
So McCarthy is responsible, except when it's inconvenient for you? closeupready Nov 2013 #29
I'm being perfectly consistent and logical. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #39
Jenny McCarthy is not the anti-christ; she is a personality. closeupready Nov 2013 #43
Maybe if she'd stop actively killing people with her propaganda, people geek tragedy Nov 2013 #45
Funny how your moniker alludes to reason when closeupready Nov 2013 #47
asdf geek tragedy Nov 2013 #51
You've had TWELVE HIDDEN POSTS in the last 90 days! LOL closeupready Nov 2013 #81
Maybe, but at least I don't think saving lives and preventing disease geek tragedy Nov 2013 #83
Right? LOL, people here can be so incredibly delusional, vesting closeupready Nov 2013 #27
Or got elected to something. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #98
I am older than Jenny McCarthy... SouthernLiberal Nov 2013 #26
My two sisters got the mumps--swollen necks and I riversedge Nov 2013 #32
My Mom got pertussis when she was about two . . . hatrack Nov 2013 #61
I had all the childhood diseases, including whooping cough. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #78
K&R NealK Nov 2013 #30
Getting a 'booster' isn't the point here... non-vaccination creates a vector that makes EVERYONE JCMach1 Nov 2013 #31
+1 HuckleB Nov 2013 #35
More here. I regard this material as factual (see extensive footnotes), neutral, essential reading. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #36
That's an anti-vaxxer propaganda site. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #41
DU's resident Wakefield defender checks in... SidDithers Nov 2013 #54
Like Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #113
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is a public charity anti-vaccination advocacy group. idwiyo Nov 2013 #93
Impressive list of publications they've accumulated there. Barack_America Nov 2013 #114
i know someone who jumped on the jennie band wagon. madrchsod Nov 2013 #42
I'm old enough to remember when measles and polio were real problems Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #50
What is sad about "celebrity" experts dem in texas Nov 2013 #53
The author is wrong on the reason that many did not take the full series karynnj Nov 2013 #56
Interesting perspective. Certainly those who act in accordance with the advice of a medical geek tragedy Nov 2013 #57
I had pneumonia MuseRider Nov 2013 #58
I'm not the author, thankfully. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #63
Glad to hear that. MuseRider Nov 2013 #74
You read it correctly, the post title is the same as the article title. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #75
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #60
anti-vaxxer propaganda kills people, and it seems you're doing your best geek tragedy Nov 2013 #62
Please carefully check out the Mumper study, noting the publication source and the article content. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #66
That's batshit insane. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #68
That's a really batshit-crazy conspiracy theory. idwiyo Nov 2013 #95
You are a menace. AngryAmish Nov 2013 #135
Why are you blaming her because YOU failed to get the adult vaccine pnwmom Nov 2013 #69
1) I am not the author; 2) most people don't realize that their childhood vaccines geek tragedy Nov 2013 #73
Research has shown that the main problem in CA right now pnwmom Nov 2013 #82
It's YOUR fault! Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #80
Had whooping cough in '39 and remember it as bad stuff indepat Nov 2013 #84
One of the misconceptions typically... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #85
BTW... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #118
The author of those pieces got a major fact wrong. pnwmom Nov 2013 #87
"make sure teens and adults get a pertussis vaccine at least every ten years" Number23 Nov 2013 #88
Everyone is supposed to be getting tetanus vaccines, which come with pnwmom Nov 2013 #89
No, I "really did not know that." Which is why I asked. Number23 Nov 2013 #90
If you don't keep up to date on tetanus, and you get a deep puncture wound, pnwmom Nov 2013 #94
I always thought that was common knowledge. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #97
Just fyi - it's typically given as "Tdap" or "Dtap" jtuck004 Nov 2013 #99
I had a tetanus booster Aerows Nov 2013 #131
Hard to guess. I would ask the provider, or see what your current Dr. says. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #140
I think I got the standard booster, it was from the Army Reserve Aerows Nov 2013 #143
Whooping Cough Epidemics in North Idaho. Blue Idaho Nov 2013 #91
k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #92
It's amazing how many people in this country ignore science and listen to idiots. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #96
While "herd immunity" has a specific meaning here Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #100
Oh gee..... sendero Nov 2013 #106
But what do Tom Cruz and Brooke Shields say about vaccinations? tclambert Nov 2013 #107
I think I was one of those who got whooping cough and didn't realize it dflprincess Nov 2013 #108
I blame Andrew Wakefield, not Jenny McCarthy. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #109
I got a booster after a couple babies died of it in CA a couple years ago. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #112
I caught it in my early 40's, about 10 years ago alittlelark Nov 2013 #117
Link to 2012 CDC Whooping Cough Surveillance Report PADemD Nov 2013 #119
I had whooping cough when I was very young RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2013 #120
All 5 cases in our area last week were in people who were up-to-date on their vaccines. Why so many? Liberty Belle Nov 2013 #121
I am wondering also classykaren Nov 2013 #125
Have you checked wind turbines? There might be a connection...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #126
I noticed my newest Tetanus booster had Pertussis included. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #122
I had whopping cough as a teen almost died classykaren Nov 2013 #124
there is no connection between vaccine/vaccine schedules and autism La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #133
Who do you believe? TNNurse Nov 2013 #127
People have to learn... LuckyTheDog Nov 2013 #130
anti-vaccine nuts are dangers and insanely selfish. i really cannot stand people who wont vaccinate La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #132
*applause and a rec* ColesCountyDem Nov 2013 #134
In all fairness barbaraj Nov 2013 #136
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #141
Not a fellow shill 4 the illuminati? chknltl Nov 2013 #142
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