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66. Please carefully check out the Mumper study, noting the publication source and the article content.

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 03:54 PM

Nov 2013

Last edited Thu Dec 12, 2013, 09:36 PM - Edit history (4)

Journal link included here (post #1): http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023557943

ADDED ON EDIT 2: Check out this official EU CDC site, too. Spend a little time exploring by country. Ask the same or different? Wonder why? Anyone calling ALL THESE PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS 'antivaxxers,' too? Wonder why not?

http://vaccine-schedule.ecdc.europa.eu/Pages/Scheduler.aspx

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Vaccine Schedule

ECDC collects information on vaccination schedules in the EU/EEA countries with the help of ECDC national focal points. This tool allows for comparison of shedules between two countries and diseases for all or a selection of countries.

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RESUME ORIGINAL POST: And, of course, it's no matter that, "Private equity has invested billions of dollars in the pharmaceutical industry," according to an article I decline to cite at http://www.commondreams.org (why don't you just google it).

More:
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130514-918807.html
http://www.reportlinker.com/p0305645/Global-Vaccine-Market-Forecast-to.html
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2013/07/welcome-ernest-hancock-listeners.html (previous and current US schedule here)

Watch "Bloomberg Market Makers Video: The Economics of Vaccines." Or don't, just flame away. This will be resolved, I am confident. Lots of good people are on it.

[img]http://www.bloomberg.com/video/the-economics-of-vaccines-556FjKcrRumuMfi9WfacAg.html[/img]

VIDEO (2:41): The Economics of Vaccines

Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Olivia Sterns reports on Merck's vaccines business. She speaks on Bloomberg Television's "Market Makers." (Source: Bloomberg)

https://www.facebook.com/TheCanaryParty

The Canary Party shared a link: Video above.

October 31
You know that talking point about how vaccines don't make any money and Pharma just does it for the good of humanity?

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ADDED ON EDIT 2: Incidentally, the Bloomberg video is NOT my own personal observation, as noted.

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I've Got Whooping Cough. Thanks a Lot, Jenny McCarthy. [View all] geek tragedy Nov 2013 OP

DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #1

Have you gotten your adult pertussis vaccine? The OP obviously didn't. pnwmom Nov 2013 #71

Considering pertussis is coupled with tetanus and diphtheria... Barack_America Nov 2013 #111

Thanks! Posted this in E&E, but can't recommend my own posts . . . hatrack Nov 2013 #2

Why didn't the writer get a booster shot? PADemD Nov 2013 #3

It's always easy to blame others for one's own mistakes. Pathwalker Nov 2013 #7

In the same boat iamthebandfanman Nov 2013 #9

Is anyone saying you and your son are part of the problem? No. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #18

Anti-vaccinaters were around for DECADES before Jenny was born. Pathwalker Nov 2013 #44

Sure, there were a few, but McCarthy spewed her ignorance and made it mainstream. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #76

Thanks. Similar with my daughter. elleng Nov 2013 #21

One case does not matter, but herd immunity is good epidemiology Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #48

I blame each and EVERY parent who chooses to not vaccinate, Pathwalker Nov 2013 #52

The problem with stupid people is that they refuse to acknowledgr and accept their Drahthaardogs Nov 2013 #55

Half the problem is people listening to celebrities in the first place. nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #86

What was the one in the sugar cube with the pink dot? Maraya1969 Nov 2013 #110

my memory says it's polio catrose Nov 2013 #115

Because adults didn't have to bother before jeff47 Nov 2013 #12

My area is a 2-hour plane ride away. PADemD Nov 2013 #19

And if everyone was like you, this wouldn't be a problem. jeff47 Nov 2013 #22

Many have done that, but you can hear about this and think... Moonwalk Nov 2013 #14

If you are going to blame parents and Jenny McCarthy, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #79

Small oversight... gcomeau Nov 2013 #38

Being vaccinated is not a 100% guarantee that you won't catch the illness. AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #40

Yes. I got an adult DPT shot SheilaT Nov 2013 #46

Not everyone knows that childhood immunizations wear off, and geek tragedy Nov 2013 #64

Exactly. The OP is blaming J.M. for his own failure to get the vaccine. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #70

+1 n/t truedelphi Nov 2013 #116

You should read up on herd immunity. nt eqfan592 Nov 2013 #138

I know all about herd immunity, and it is especially important pnwmom Nov 2013 #139

It hasn't been out that long and adults aren't recommended for it Warpy Nov 2013 #101

While you were hospitalized they should have advised you that adults can be vaccinated anytime Tdap lunasun Nov 2013 #4

See post #14 and you're responding to an article posted, not the poster of said article. Moonwalk Nov 2013 #16

Get vaccinated! Mz Pip Nov 2013 #5

Don't forget a shingles vaccine (if applicable)! DemoTex Nov 2013 #34

I got one a few years ago. Mz Pip Nov 2013 #59

You can now get the Shingles vaccine at age 50 pokerfan Nov 2013 #65

I hadn't heard that. Good info to spread around, thanks! n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #72

I had chicken pox as a kid - TBF Nov 2013 #102

Yes, but ask your doctor pokerfan Nov 2013 #103

I am going to ask about this and pertussis - TBF Nov 2013 #104

Yes, you can get shingles as an adult if you had chickenpox as a kid. n/t winter is coming Nov 2013 #105

can even get them as a kid MissMillie Nov 2013 #128

Yeah, you can. Lucky you. winter is coming Nov 2013 #129

Shaking my head pipi_k Nov 2013 #6

Your SIL seriously... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #33

OK, just double checked... pipi_k Nov 2013 #37

I'm a nurse myself... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #77

Actually, I understand you can, in rare cases. quakerboy Nov 2013 #144

Wow. Had no idea whooping cough vaccine wears off. SunSeeker Nov 2013 #8

Yeah. One of my kid's teachers just got revaccinated because one of her children came down with winter is coming Nov 2013 #13

I didn't know either hibbing Nov 2013 #15

Many, maybe all vaccines wear off in time. SheilaT Nov 2013 #49

Nor I. I'm glad I read this! nt Union Scribe Nov 2013 #67

The newest Tetanus booster (DTaP) shot (every 10 years) has whooping cough included. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #123

This is exactly how I got my poster for Whooping cough, just 2 years ago. n/t Sheepshank Nov 2013 #137

OMG, how stupid. closeupready Nov 2013 #10

I got a booster a couple of years ago. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2013 #11

We have lost the memory of how bad childhood diseases used to be central scrutinizer Nov 2013 #17

I teach an exercise class at the YMCA and though it is an adult class.... Moonwalk Nov 2013 #20

The Jenny McCarthy Body Count...... Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #23

Thanks for the link. JimboBillyBubbaBob Nov 2013 #28

I always get medical advice from Jenny dem in texas Nov 2013 #24

What's scary is how many people will believe anti-science craziness is 'mainstream' geek tragedy Nov 2013 #25

So McCarthy is responsible, except when it's inconvenient for you? closeupready Nov 2013 #29

I'm being perfectly consistent and logical. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #39

Jenny McCarthy is not the anti-christ; she is a personality. closeupready Nov 2013 #43

Maybe if she'd stop actively killing people with her propaganda, people geek tragedy Nov 2013 #45

Funny how your moniker alludes to reason when closeupready Nov 2013 #47

asdf geek tragedy Nov 2013 #51

You've had TWELVE HIDDEN POSTS in the last 90 days! LOL closeupready Nov 2013 #81

Maybe, but at least I don't think saving lives and preventing disease geek tragedy Nov 2013 #83

Right? LOL, people here can be so incredibly delusional, vesting closeupready Nov 2013 #27

Or got elected to something. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #98

I am older than Jenny McCarthy... SouthernLiberal Nov 2013 #26

My two sisters got the mumps--swollen necks and I riversedge Nov 2013 #32

My Mom got pertussis when she was about two . . . hatrack Nov 2013 #61

I had all the childhood diseases, including whooping cough. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #78

K&R NealK Nov 2013 #30

Getting a 'booster' isn't the point here... non-vaccination creates a vector that makes EVERYONE JCMach1 Nov 2013 #31

+1 HuckleB Nov 2013 #35

More here. I regard this material as factual (see extensive footnotes), neutral, essential reading. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #36

That's an anti-vaxxer propaganda site. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #41

DU's resident Wakefield defender checks in... SidDithers Nov 2013 #54

Like Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #113

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is a public charity anti-vaccination advocacy group. idwiyo Nov 2013 #93

Impressive list of publications they've accumulated there. Barack_America Nov 2013 #114

i know someone who jumped on the jennie band wagon. madrchsod Nov 2013 #42

I'm old enough to remember when measles and polio were real problems Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2013 #50

What is sad about "celebrity" experts dem in texas Nov 2013 #53

The author is wrong on the reason that many did not take the full series karynnj Nov 2013 #56

Interesting perspective. Certainly those who act in accordance with the advice of a medical geek tragedy Nov 2013 #57

I had pneumonia MuseRider Nov 2013 #58

I'm not the author, thankfully. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #63

Glad to hear that. MuseRider Nov 2013 #74

You read it correctly, the post title is the same as the article title. nt geek tragedy Nov 2013 #75

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #60

anti-vaxxer propaganda kills people, and it seems you're doing your best geek tragedy Nov 2013 #62

Please carefully check out the Mumper study, noting the publication source and the article content. proverbialwisdom Nov 2013 #66

That's batshit insane. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #68

That's a really batshit-crazy conspiracy theory. idwiyo Nov 2013 #95

You are a menace. AngryAmish Nov 2013 #135

Why are you blaming her because YOU failed to get the adult vaccine pnwmom Nov 2013 #69

1) I am not the author; 2) most people don't realize that their childhood vaccines geek tragedy Nov 2013 #73

Research has shown that the main problem in CA right now pnwmom Nov 2013 #82

It's YOUR fault! Cali_Democrat Nov 2013 #80

Had whooping cough in '39 and remember it as bad stuff indepat Nov 2013 #84

One of the misconceptions typically... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #85

BTW... 3catwoman3 Nov 2013 #118

The author of those pieces got a major fact wrong. pnwmom Nov 2013 #87

"make sure teens and adults get a pertussis vaccine at least every ten years" Number23 Nov 2013 #88

Everyone is supposed to be getting tetanus vaccines, which come with pnwmom Nov 2013 #89

No, I "really did not know that." Which is why I asked. Number23 Nov 2013 #90

If you don't keep up to date on tetanus, and you get a deep puncture wound, pnwmom Nov 2013 #94

I always thought that was common knowledge. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #97

Just fyi - it's typically given as "Tdap" or "Dtap" jtuck004 Nov 2013 #99

I had a tetanus booster Aerows Nov 2013 #131

Hard to guess. I would ask the provider, or see what your current Dr. says. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2013 #140

I think I got the standard booster, it was from the Army Reserve Aerows Nov 2013 #143

Whooping Cough Epidemics in North Idaho. Blue Idaho Nov 2013 #91

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #92

It's amazing how many people in this country ignore science and listen to idiots. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #96

While "herd immunity" has a specific meaning here Bolo Boffin Nov 2013 #100

Oh gee..... sendero Nov 2013 #106

But what do Tom Cruz and Brooke Shields say about vaccinations? tclambert Nov 2013 #107

I think I was one of those who got whooping cough and didn't realize it dflprincess Nov 2013 #108

I blame Andrew Wakefield, not Jenny McCarthy. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #109

I got a booster after a couple babies died of it in CA a couple years ago. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #112

I caught it in my early 40's, about 10 years ago alittlelark Nov 2013 #117

Link to 2012 CDC Whooping Cough Surveillance Report PADemD Nov 2013 #119

I had whooping cough when I was very young RFKHumphreyObama Nov 2013 #120

All 5 cases in our area last week were in people who were up-to-date on their vaccines. Why so many? Liberty Belle Nov 2013 #121

I am wondering also classykaren Nov 2013 #125

Have you checked wind turbines? There might be a connection...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #126

I noticed my newest Tetanus booster had Pertussis included. NutmegYankee Nov 2013 #122

I had whopping cough as a teen almost died classykaren Nov 2013 #124

there is no connection between vaccine/vaccine schedules and autism La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #133

Who do you believe? TNNurse Nov 2013 #127

People have to learn... LuckyTheDog Nov 2013 #130

anti-vaccine nuts are dangers and insanely selfish. i really cannot stand people who wont vaccinate La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #132

*applause and a rec* ColesCountyDem Nov 2013 #134

In all fairness barbaraj Nov 2013 #136

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #141

Not a fellow shill 4 the illuminati? chknltl Nov 2013 #142