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In reply to the discussion: There's nothing radical or exciting about Pope Francis. [View all]sibelian
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1. These days, actual Catholics hold something of a plurality of views on the politically significant aspects of catholic doctrine.
2. If the Catholic camps which we might recognise as "left wing" and "right wing" remain unaffected in their views by the transition from Ratso to Lovelypants it is neither surprising nor of any consequence, really, as that's how grown-ups behave these days, and, being the case, renders the Ratso-to-Lovelypants rebranding exercise something of a circus.
3. If the Catholic camps which we might recognise as "left wing" and "right wing" are in fact SWAYED by the transition from Ratso to Lovelypants then that is a cause for GREAT ALARM and awfulness as we are clearly dealing with people who base their opinions about reality on someone whose value as an opinionator rests on wearing pretty clothes and a silly hat. Also, in THAT context, Catholicism reveals itself to be a VERY BAD THING which (were it up to me and possibly it's better that it isn't) should NOT BE A THING as grown-ups these days SHOULDN'T THINK LIKE THAT. The reason being, all we'd need to lose all the useful stuff is another Ratso.
"OH. God likes being nice to people now because it's not the guy from Poltergiest II anymore. In fact, God digs the SHIT out of that shit. THAT MEANS I DO, TOO."
NOT a sensible way of being, says I.
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Only the difference that none of us have such influence over 1.2 billion adherents
hlthe2b
Nov 2013
#2
By my response to you, I meant to convey a certain cynicism regarding his Popeness's influence.
sibelian
Nov 2013
#38
I believe the stampede of conservatives distancing themselves from him speaks volumes. nt
onehandle
Nov 2013
#3
What do you mean? I have not seen one single Bishop or Cardinal resign nor
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#11
perhaps the first pope not to further the spanish inquisition would also be considered a great pope
dembotoz
Nov 2013
#6
What gets people excited about the pope is that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing
Renew Deal
Nov 2013
#7
Francis is the Ronald Reagan of religion, a facade of smiles and kindness covering
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#9
Indeed...kindly point out which bit of the doctrine you think the Pope is deviating from:
msanthrope
Nov 2013
#26
Those that like him like an anti choice homophobe. They are free to do so, of course.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#21
His opinion about marriage equality certainly is distinguishable from ordinary liberals...nt
SidDithers
Nov 2013
#33
"Liberals" don't think gay marriage is "a destructive attack on God's plan."
Arugula Latte
Nov 2013
#39