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In reply to the discussion: There's nothing radical or exciting about Pope Francis. [View all]theHandpuppet
(19,964 posts)What's not to like, if this is your cup of tea?
1. Continues to oppress and suppress progressive nuns
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/lets_face_it_pope_francis_still_aint_that_great_20130921?ln
In April, Francis reaffirmed his predecessors censure of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an umbrella organization that represents 80 percent of Catholic nuns in the United States. These nuns were penalized by the Vatican, and continue to be penalized, for focusing on poverty instead of stoking moral panic about the existence of gay people or sexually active teenagers exactly the kind of community-centered work that Francis just declared sorely missing from the church.
In the report admonishing the sisters, and stripping them of the independent authority to develop their own charter and conduct their own business, the Vatican said they were undermining issues of crucial importance to the life of Church and society, such as the Churchs Biblical view of family life and human sexuality and promoting radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.
Francis censure places these women under the full authority of the Vatican and its program of reform, which includes the appointment of three male bishops to manage the rewriting of the nuns conference statutes, review its community-based programs and otherwise ensure the group properly follows Catholic teaching.
2. Continues to support an Archbishop who heads the crackdown on nuns and shaped policy regarding the clergys sex abuse of minors
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57604023/
September 21, 2013, 1:40 PM
Pope keeps cleric who leads crackdown on liberal U.S. nuns
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In another important decision, Francis left Archbishop Gerhard Mueller in the powerful role of prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Mueller, originally appointed by Benedict XVI, directs the Holy See's crackdown on nuns suspected of undermining Catholic teaching on the priesthood and homosexuality. His office also shapes policy dealing with clergy who sexually abuse minors.
Under Mueller's tenure, critics of the Vatican's strategy have so far been frustrated in their lobbying for Vatican and other church hierarchy to be held accountable for policy that for decades left pedophile priests in their ministry, merely shuffling them from parish to parish when complaints emerged....
3. Is firmly against contraception and choice.
http://www.thenation.com/article/176345/pope-francis-sexism-human-face#
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Sure enough, the day after the publication of the interviewand to much less noticePope Francis gave a firmly anti-abortion speech to a gathering of Catholic gynecologists. He quoted Pope Benedict on the connection between openness to life and social justice (openness to life is code for banning not just abortion but contraception), castigated abortion as part of a throw-away culture and urged Catholic doctors to refuse to perform them
4. Will punish nuns and priests who speak out for the rights of women and gays
http://world.time.com/2013/09/25/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-who-supports-womens-ordination-and-gays/#ixzz2kDKqUsuJ
Pope Francis Excommunicates Priest Who Backed Womens Ordination and Gays
Despite his reforming attitude, Francis still supports traditional doctrine
5. Gay marriage and/or adoption? No way that will ever get the seal of approval.
Cardinal Francis George of Chicago quoted Pope Francis when defending the cuts of funding to the Immigration Coalition:
The cardinal quoted Pope Francis, saying that marriage should be a stable union of man and woman and that this union is born of their love, as a sign and presence of Godʼs own love.
Further quoting Pope Francis, he said that this union is also born of the acknowledgment and acceptance of the goodness of sexual differentiation, whereby spouses can become one flesh and are enabled to give birth to a new life. first Encyclical of Pope Francis: Lumen Fidei.
6. Has no use for feminists.
http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/pope-francis-women-and-chauvinism-skirts
What I would like to add is that feminism, as a unique philosophy, does not do any favors to those that it claims to represent, for it puts women on the level of a vindictive battle, and a woman is much more than that. The feminist campaign of the '20s achieved what they wanted and it is over, but a constant feminist philosophy does not give women the dignity that they deserve. As a caricature, I would say that it runs the risk of becoming chauvinism with skirts.
I'd say they are fretting about nothing at all.