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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
32. Tell them not to worry their pretty little heads
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:59 PM
Nov 2013

What's not to like, if this is your cup of tea?

1. Continues to oppress and suppress progressive nuns
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/lets_face_it_pope_francis_still_aint_that_great_20130921?ln

In April, Francis reaffirmed his predecessor’s censure of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an umbrella organization that represents 80 percent of Catholic nuns in the United States. These nuns were penalized by the Vatican, and continue to be penalized, for focusing on poverty instead of stoking moral panic about the existence of gay people or sexually active teenagers — exactly the kind of community-centered work that Francis just declared sorely missing from the church.
In the report admonishing the sisters, and stripping them of the independent authority to develop their own charter and conduct their own business, the Vatican said they were undermining “issues of crucial importance to the life of Church and society, such as the Church’s Biblical view of family life and human sexuality” and promoting “radical feminist themes incompatible with the Catholic faith.”
Francis’ censure places these women under the full authority of the Vatican and its “program of reform,” which includes the appointment of three male bishops to manage the rewriting of the nuns’ conference statutes, review its community-based programs and otherwise ensure the group “properly” follows Catholic teaching.

2. Continues to support an Archbishop who heads the crackdown on nuns and shaped policy regarding the clergy’s sex abuse of minors
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57604023/
September 21, 2013, 1:40 PM
Pope keeps cleric who leads crackdown on liberal U.S. nuns
(excerpt)
In another important decision, Francis left Archbishop Gerhard Mueller in the powerful role of prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Mueller, originally appointed by Benedict XVI, directs the Holy See's crackdown on nuns suspected of undermining Catholic teaching on the priesthood and homosexuality. His office also shapes policy dealing with clergy who sexually abuse minors.
Under Mueller's tenure, critics of the Vatican's strategy have so far been frustrated in their lobbying for Vatican and other church hierarchy to be held accountable for policy that for decades left pedophile priests in their ministry, merely shuffling them from parish to parish when complaints emerged....

3. Is firmly against contraception and choice.
http://www.thenation.com/article/176345/pope-francis-sexism-human-face#
(excerpt)
Sure enough, the day after the publication of the interview—and to much less notice—Pope Francis gave a firmly anti-abortion speech to a gathering of Catholic gynecologists. He quoted Pope Benedict on the connection between “openness to life” and social justice (“openness to life” is code for banning not just abortion but contraception), castigated abortion as part of a “throw-away culture” and urged Catholic doctors to refuse to perform them

4. Will punish nuns and priests who speak out for the rights of women and gays
http://world.time.com/2013/09/25/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-who-supports-womens-ordination-and-gays/#ixzz2kDKqUsuJ
Pope Francis Excommunicates Priest Who Backed Women’s Ordination and Gays
Despite his reforming attitude, Francis still supports traditional doctrine

5. Gay marriage and/or adoption? No way that will ever get the seal of approval.
Cardinal Francis George of Chicago quoted Pope Francis when defending the cuts of funding to the Immigration Coalition:
The cardinal quoted Pope Francis, saying that marriage should be “a stable union of man and woman” and that “this union is born of their love, as a sign and presence of Godʼs own love.”
Further quoting Pope Francis, he said that this union is also born of “the acknowledgment and acceptance of the goodness of sexual differentiation, whereby spouses can become one flesh and are enabled to give birth to a new life.” – first Encyclical of Pope Francis: Lumen Fidei.

6. Has no use for feminists.
http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/pope-francis-women-and-chauvinism-skirts
“What I would like to add is that feminism, as a unique philosophy, does not do any favors to those that it claims to represent, for it puts women on the level of a vindictive battle, and a woman is much more than that. The feminist campaign of the '20s achieved what they wanted and it is over, but a constant feminist philosophy does not give women the dignity that they deserve. As a caricature, I would say that it runs the risk of becoming chauvinism with skirts.”

I'd say they are fretting about nothing at all.

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context. cali Nov 2013 #1
It is a thing that I have said in the context sibelian Nov 2013 #12
Exactly. treestar Nov 2013 #18
Only the difference that none of us have such influence over 1.2 billion adherents hlthe2b Nov 2013 #2
Yeeeeah. Catholicism will be..... ReBOOOOOOOORN!!! sibelian Nov 2013 #13
I'm agnostic, so don't feel your comments impact me. But facts are facts... hlthe2b Nov 2013 #36
By my response to you, I meant to convey a certain cynicism regarding his Popeness's influence. sibelian Nov 2013 #38
Not sure about the influence treestar Nov 2013 #19
Absolutely, but I am pretty darned sure they are listening to him, nontheless hlthe2b Nov 2013 #35
I believe the stampede of conservatives distancing themselves from him speaks volumes. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #3
What do you mean? I have not seen one single Bishop or Cardinal resign nor Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #11
As a human, not so much. As a Pope, a lot. factsarenotfair Nov 2013 #4
I wouldn't say his opinions are those of an ordinary liberal. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #5
Yes, actually, that's TRUE. sibelian Nov 2013 #14
perhaps the first pope not to further the spanish inquisition would also be considered a great pope dembotoz Nov 2013 #6
What gets people excited about the pope is that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing Renew Deal Nov 2013 #7
Hopey Popey. sibelian Nov 2013 #28
I've decided Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #41
Why, thank you! sibelian Nov 2013 #44
he is the first pope in our lifetimes that has held some liberal views scheming daemons Nov 2013 #8
Francis is the Ronald Reagan of religion, a facade of smiles and kindness covering Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #9
I suggest the OP beachbum bob Nov 2013 #10
He's not deviating from church doctrine at all. Not a bit. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #15
.... sibelian Nov 2013 #17
Indeed...kindly point out which bit of the doctrine you think the Pope is deviating from: msanthrope Nov 2013 #26
I'm sure that there are many more people with that opinion. HappyMe Nov 2013 #16
Those that like him like an anti choice homophobe. They are free to do so, of course. Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #21
You have a very crabbed world view. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #46
... but Sister Sarah Palin has started a pissing contest with him ... Myrina Nov 2013 #20
Sigh. I don't want to barf on your Cheerios. Truthfully, I really don't. But. sibelian Nov 2013 #22
Looks like your OP is a good try at least... JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #24
It's going to cause some cranial implosion on the far right ... Myrina Nov 2013 #25
Well, that tickles me. :) sibelian Nov 2013 #27
The Catholic wingers at my work JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #23
Tell them not to worry their pretty little heads theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #32
Perhaps that will cheer them up! JNelson6563 Nov 2013 #45
Like I said, no cause for alarm on their part theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #47
Exactly. treestar Nov 2013 #37
You know what was so ironic about that photo? theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #29
It's infantilising bilgewater. It's not even as if his comments are sibelian Nov 2013 #30
Yup. Pope Photo-Op has a great PR team...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #34
Definitely. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #40
Well, liberals the world over don't hate homosexuals. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #31
I'm so glad you've reminded me. nt. sibelian Nov 2013 #42
His opinion about marriage equality certainly is distinguishable from ordinary liberals...nt SidDithers Nov 2013 #33
"Liberals" don't think gay marriage is "a destructive attack on God's plan." Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #39
True. nt. sibelian Nov 2013 #43
Liberals don't protect tens of thousands of child rapists and torturers. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #48
There's nothing radical or exciting about the OP. rug Nov 2013 #49
Wake me when you're finished theHandpuppet Nov 2013 #50
Like you've never said that before. rug Nov 2013 #51
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