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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
80. He "was killed" in the crash of a light Twin aircraft...
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 04:53 PM
Nov 2013

... (Beech King Air, IIRC) on a VFR approach in marginal weather.
The NTSB found "no evidence" of sabotage.

...so we don't really know.
We DO know that Cheney himself threatened Paul & his family the week before the vote on the IWR.

"At a meeting full of war veterans in Willmar, Minn., days before his death, Wellstone told attendees that Cheney told him, "If you vote against the war in Iraq, the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you. There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota."

Wellstone cast his vote for his conscience and against the Iraq measure, the lone Democrat involved in a tough 2002 election campaign to do so. And a few weeks later on Oct. 25, as he appeared to be winning his re-election bid, Wellstone, his wife, Sheila, his daughter, Marcia Markuson, three campaign staffers, and two pilots died in a plane crash in Minnesota.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x973521


I was in St Paul, working with the Campaign to re-elect Wellstone at the time of the crash.

Again, the NTSB found no evidence of sabotage.

Can our "Black Agencies" cause a light plane to crash without leaving "evidence of sabotage"?
The answer is an unequivocal YES. They do!
and can do so with the active knowledge of only a few insiders.

My opinion is that it is certainly possible that it was just a pilot error accident,
AND
it is also possible that this crash was the end result of a small, tight conspiracy
to rid the country of this troublesome loudmouth traitor.

It certainly was "convenient",
along with the other questionable deaths or marginalization of inconvenient Liberals over the last decade or so.

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He "was killed" in the crash of a light Twin aircraft... bvar22 Nov 2013 #80
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