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MADem

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21. And there's "social protocol," and I've seen examples of this usage back in the 1960s.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:01 AM
Nov 2013

If you go into the newspaper archives (Google has some that are robust if cumbersome) you can see examples of "President Truman" and "President Eisenhower" into the sixties. There are some papers that are careful to do the "former" or "ex" and say "Mister" or "General" but there are others that didn't bother--even way back when.

People are unwilling to let go of a leader that they happened to like, and adherence to that writing style might very well depend upon the editorial lean of the paper as much as anything else.

And here's a little CBS thing about former President Johnson's library, filmed a year before he died, and in it a bunch of folks, including then-President Nixon, call LBJ "President Johnson."



Social usage--it's probably always going to butt up against official protocol. I don't think it'll ever change.

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Her Maverickesty Enrique Nov 2013 #7
Nice 1000words Nov 2013 #14
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Call her Vice President Palin. nyquil_man Nov 2013 #10
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"Why, how nice to meet-chew, Fox News Analyst Palin!!!" MADem Nov 2013 #13
The protocol I was taught was "highest rank held." MADem Nov 2013 #12
The protocol is that if the position has one holder at a time (president, governor) only the current Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #15
I'm not arguing with the guidance in the book, but I can tell you that MADem Nov 2013 #16
There's protocol, and there's the laziness of our media. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #17
And there's "social protocol," and I've seen examples of this usage back in the 1960s. MADem Nov 2013 #21
GW needs to get some concealer to dab on that everlasting red nose of his. n/t Contrary1 Nov 2013 #20
For starters! Maybe ten layers of pan-stick to cover up those gin blossoms, too. nt MADem Nov 2013 #22
Emily Post agrees Sgent Nov 2013 #18
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