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cherokeeprogressive

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Fri Nov 15, 2013, 11:59 PM Nov 2013

Today? "You can KEEP your insurance, PERIOD." Tomorrow? "You can KEEP your DOCTOR, PERIOD." [View all]

This whole mess hasn't even begun to play out yet. President Obama made TWO prescient promises... promises he knew he couldn't/wouldn't/didn't plan to keep.

We're debating the first as if it's the end of the fucking world. It ain't. It's a lie which will be a mountain that could have been a molehill had those in charge of the message decided early on to be more transparent. Would that it could. I can only hope that the last living person on Earth chisels that into a rock before she dies...

"Would that it could."

Come January, MILLIONS of people are going to want to go see "THEIR" Doctor, now that their plan has changed... now that their plan entitles them to so much more than they paid for before...

What are they going to say when they find out that DR. SMITH doesn't participate in their plan? The DOCTOR they've seen for DECADES doesn't participate, and might as well now be as far from them as France?

New debacle.

What's the short-term answer for THIS one? January to November is a LONG time... and NOVEMBER is when the MID-TERM Elections happen.

We're spending all our waking hours arguing about insurance WHICH ISN'T HEALTH CARE and in less than 47 DAYS everyone's going to start scheduling appointments...

47 Days.

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True dat. And the government can't enforce either one. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #1
Not to nitpick, but if you can mandate people buy something they dont want to buy... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #14
I really don't think it is the same at all. BlueStreak Nov 2013 #50
Regarding ACA plans not including your doctor, look it up BEFORE you buy BlueStreak Nov 2013 #2
over half the counties in NC have only one company in the ACA dsc Nov 2013 #5
Active Republican sabotage? BlueStreak Nov 2013 #49
probably lots of things dsc Nov 2013 #56
Well it might just be good old-fashioned colusion BlueStreak Nov 2013 #59
Or a hospital that is no longer in network when something serious happens ... slipslidingaway Nov 2013 #3
Here in NJ we only have 3 providers on the exchange... Walk away Nov 2013 #55
Shop for another plan maybe Lifelong Dem Nov 2013 #4
Complete hogwash. Live and Learn Nov 2013 #6
The providers in your HC plan also include hospitals ... slipslidingaway Nov 2013 #7
"Everyone knew what he meant." Um... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #9
We have asked my wife's oncologists what programs they will be participating in legcramp Nov 2013 #8
First, Dr. Smith is not to be trusted. gulliver Nov 2013 #10
DANGER WILL ROBINSON! cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #12
One mistake in your premise Savannahmann Nov 2013 #11
ACA will be like HERPES... the "gift that keeps on giving". TO THE FUCKING REPUBLICANS. n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #13
How dare you! The ACA is the greatest law in the history of ever! Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #15
Because... Obama? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #17
Of course! He's dreamy. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #18
We cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #19
Are cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #20
SO cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #21
FUCKED IN 2014 cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #22
heh-heh Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #25
You never really loved him!!!1 QC Nov 2013 #52
I heard many times when I went on Medicare, that the doctor was not taking new patients. Not a damn libdem4life Nov 2013 #23
There are just not enough medical professionals to go around with the influx of new ... slipslidingaway Nov 2013 #26
I'm keeping MY Doctor.. right next to my walrus Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #24
I am the Eggman... they are the Eggmen cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #28
Not now, I have to go get Semolina Pilchard off the Eiffel Tower, again Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #31
Have I told you I loved you lately? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #32
Sweet! Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #33
Later though... when no one's watching. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #35
The promises were that the law didn't change those things. HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #27
I hope your pulled muscles are covered... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #29
Reality? HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #30
tired of the crap. fuck the shitheads who don't want to make this country better Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #34
One Problem: The shitheads vote. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #36
Then one year later... Keefer Nov 2013 #57
Pure fearmongering Fearless Nov 2013 #37
Back up that well researched and reasoned claim with the tiniest kernel cherokeeprogressive Nov 2013 #38
You made the claim. You back it up. Fearless Nov 2013 #40
Ah, but we have a uniquely American system of health care Fumesucker Nov 2013 #41
We will have fewer able to go to see doctors Fearless Nov 2013 #42
Uniquely American can be either good or bad Fumesucker Nov 2013 #43
Fear of what you don't know is irrational Fearless Nov 2013 #45
Even Nancy Pelosi couldn't figure out all the ramifications of the language in the bill Fumesucker Nov 2013 #47
You're blaming someone for not predicting Fearless Nov 2013 #58
um. people that had no coverage at all HAD no doctor scheming daemons Nov 2013 #39
Are you sure that no one in America pays out of pocket to see their doctor? Fumesucker Nov 2013 #44
Private insurance has always kept us from keeping our plans or our doctors eridani Nov 2013 #46
+1. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #53
It feels like there's a coordinated effort to fuck the thing up... MANative Nov 2013 #48
Nothing is forever... ever.. and "promises" made are routinely broken.. SoCalDem Nov 2013 #51
It looks like we're moving to Medicare, employer insurance, and Medicaid for everyone else FarCenter Nov 2013 #54
My husband has an ophthalmologist that he has seen for the past 12 years and I guarantee he will not liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #60
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