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DonViejo

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40. I agree, same applies to me...

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:55 PM

Nov 2013

however, Galileo didn't need forgiveness either for being brilliant and or a modern (for those times) scientist; that didn't stop the Church from damning him for the next 500 years. If you're expecting this Pope to issue one grand fiat declaring Church teaching and policy of the last thousands of years to be wrong, forget it. It ain't gonna happen. Maybe in a hundred years the Church will change but, Francis and his cronies will not do it. At best, Francis may have begun a process of the Church hierarchy reviewing its nonsensical teachings but there will be no overnight changes. The Church has barely begun dealing with women and the issues of their lives, hope for a re-evaluation of scriptural interpretation and Church teachings about the LBGT community is sadly, and imho, a long way off; part of the reason I am no longer an RC (for 39 + years) and no longer a Xtian for (34+ years)

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Why even Catholics should be insisting that Pope Francis [View all] MineralMan Nov 2013 OP

Don't' hold your breath William769 Nov 2013 #1

Don't worry. I won't. MineralMan Nov 2013 #2

Me either. William769 Nov 2013 #5

Absolutely. Churches may be able to dictate to their followers, but MineralMan Nov 2013 #8

Agreed. William769 Nov 2013 #11

Thank you. I also refuse to stand by and let the NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #9

None of us should stand by. We should MineralMan Nov 2013 #12

I agree. bravenak Nov 2013 #3

Thank you. MineralMan Nov 2013 #4

It took the Church 500 year to forgive Galileo DonViejo Nov 2013 #6

I don't need forgiveness. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #38

I agree, same applies to me... DonViejo Nov 2013 #40

You're looking for absolute results. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #7

With regard to human rights, yes, I am looking for absolute MineralMan Nov 2013 #10

How absolute was your opposition to the President when he didn't support gay marriage? nt DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #31

Personally, I was in favor of full marriage equality, MineralMan Nov 2013 #35

What are the differences other than the style? He's the same as Benedict, who is alive and still Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #13

Lol, the Guardian article at least had analysis. rug Nov 2013 #14

My commentary is quite visible in the post. MineralMan Nov 2013 #15

It is commentary, it is (unoriginal) opinion, it is not analysis. rug Nov 2013 #17

Everything I post on DU is my opinion if it states an opinion. MineralMan Nov 2013 #19

not a surprise from you that you don't care about cali Nov 2013 #16

You are incorrect. I did not mention those things MineralMan Nov 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #20

It damn sure isn't to deny it! William769 Nov 2013 #21

that's not an answer and the church would probably disagree leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #22

Since you self-deleted your post, nobody MineralMan Nov 2013 #24

that's fine i dont want to get wrapped up in another bash religion thread leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #30

Please do as you please. MineralMan Nov 2013 #32

you can call this whatever you like leftyohiolib Nov 2013 #33

Yes, I can. It's a thread I started. MineralMan Nov 2013 #41

What's not an answer? William769 Nov 2013 #26

I had just finished a longer reply, but it didn't post MineralMan Nov 2013 #23

Well I don't like to mince words. William769 Nov 2013 #28

Indeed. I like them more coarsely chopped, myself. MineralMan Nov 2013 #29

of course you don't. but we know where you stand. cali Nov 2013 #25

No, you don't know where I stand. MineralMan Nov 2013 #27

Eh, I'm sure he cares more about the poor than you do about LGBT people. n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #45

Hear, hear. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #34

Thanks! MineralMan Nov 2013 #36

There are some who do treestar Nov 2013 #37

There are, indeed. MineralMan Nov 2013 #39

Would you at least be willing to admit that... bvar22 Nov 2013 #42

What steps has he taken? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #43

The right direction with regard to what? MineralMan Nov 2013 #44