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Drunken Irishman

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18. There is a great deal of evidence...

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 04:49 PM

Nov 2013

1) More Americans today support gay marriage than in 2008.
2) Choice is becoming an aggressive fight for millions of Americans.
3) There is a bigger push at the ground level against union-busting politicians.

The problem isn't the people - it's the judges, congress and the minority ideologues.

As for Obama being an economic progressive, I look at him as more economically pragmatic. I see him to the left of Clinton, but certainly to the right of some past Democratic presidents (namely FDR).

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Regardless of what you think about Obama, a vast majority of the party still loves him... [View all] Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 OP

in their districts -- 'popular' elects tea party candidates. xchrom Nov 2013 #1

You probably don't give a fuck about winning, either. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #3

you think more highly of your opinion than i do. nt xchrom Nov 2013 #12

That's the problem - you think I need your validation. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #13

i don't think about you ...or your opinion at all. nt xchrom Nov 2013 #19

Good. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #21

Popular elected Barack Obama. pnwmom Nov 2013 #33

I love both Warren and Obama. Whisp Nov 2013 #2

I agree and I think Warren would agree with you there. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #4

+1 russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #6

Yes! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #31

So do I. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus. calimary Nov 2013 #43

Warren's great. I encourage her to run in the primaries. MineralMan Nov 2013 #5

How President Obama will or won't fare in the eyes of historians simply isn't known cali Nov 2013 #9

My opinion is that he will be remembered well in history. MineralMan Nov 2013 #17

I think you'll be proven correct. calimary Nov 2013 #44

Thanks. MineralMan Nov 2013 #54

I don't think for a moment that I'm articulating the majority position when cali Nov 2013 #7

I'm not really talking Hillary... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #11

I don't disagree that most democrats support the President cali Nov 2013 #15

There is a great deal of evidence... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #18

abortion services have been severely curtailed over the past few years. cali Nov 2013 #24

I think you're already starting to see blowback on the anti-choice agenda... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #26

It's not a matter of seeing what I want to see. It's a matter of FACTS cali Nov 2013 #41

any problems people have with Obama RainDog Nov 2013 #8

I appreciate Obama's efforts walkingman Nov 2013 #10

Welcome to DU. cali Nov 2013 #16

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #35

Welcome to DU, walkingman! calimary Nov 2013 #45

I could vote for Warren. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #14

K&R from a proud member of the 80% of Democrats Progressive dog Nov 2013 #20

I do. Iliyah Nov 2013 #28

Do the actual statistics - truedelphi Nov 2013 #22

Well they're not meaningless... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #23

And the "love" part is misleading too zeemike Nov 2013 #39

Cults of personality are sick and dangerous. Sad to see it. cali Nov 2013 #42

K & R Iliyah Nov 2013 #25

I still support him! samplegirl Nov 2013 #27

BHO is an '80s Republican. Glad you like 80s GOP. Bet you'll like 90s GOP, too, especially in blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #36

D'oh! Add country and world. Coyotl Nov 2013 #29

80%, huh? Proof that too many moderate Republicans have infiltrated the DEM Party. I was out on BHO blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #30

"I was out on BHO in 2012". blue neen Nov 2013 #46

Pot, meet kettle. 99Forever Nov 2013 #32

I don't think Warren would go along with that fadedrose Nov 2013 #34

Still like him - don't always agree LibGranny Nov 2013 #37

"Obama's approval, according to Gallup, is 80% with Democrats." R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #38

Very true...it might be higher. Maybe 90%. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #40

Or not accurate at all. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #47

How predictable. woo me with science Nov 2013 #48

that's for sure cali Nov 2013 #49

+++! Excellent post. who or what is responsible, and has it always been this way? solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #62

Exactly. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #67

I'm happy with Obama gollygee Nov 2013 #50

Warren is not going to run against Hillary... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #51

There are a couple of years gollygee Nov 2013 #52

it is not going to happen... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #55

I don't honestly care what you think gollygee Nov 2013 #56

What is the fixation on "loving Obama"? djean111 Nov 2013 #53

Love? No. But he's the President. His supporters make up a huge amount of the party... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #58

Do you really think the DNC gives a flying fuck if some Democrats do not like Obama? djean111 Nov 2013 #59

Because that's what I said, right? Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #61

He's very likeable. polichick Nov 2013 #57

I advocate for my position. LWolf Nov 2013 #60

"Obama and his administration have accomplished this with me: polichick Nov 2013 #63

Yes, and LWolf Nov 2013 #68

I've always been proud to be an enthusiastic Obama supporter, IrishAyes Nov 2013 #64

We should not be tearing down anyone in the party because there just aren't that many any more libdem4life Nov 2013 #65

Of course there's a need for corporate "help". The system has cali Nov 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author duffyduff Nov 2013 #66

Here is what you are missing.... Logical Nov 2013 #70

You raise a good point. Laelth Nov 2013 #71