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LWolf

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60. I advocate for my position.

Reply to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2013, 07:56 PM

Nov 2013

It's almost never a majority in any group.

That doesn't mean I shut up and get in line. It's simply not going to happen.

In my half a century + of experience, I haven't found the majority opinion on so many things to be necessarily well-informed or correct.

Obama? I don't love him. I never did. I always saw him pretty damned clearly. Obama and his administration have accomplished this with me: I'm more determined than ever not to support any neo-liberal Democrat. The majority of the Democratic Party, if they feel differently, can do whatever without me. I've been under the Democratic bus for a very long time. I don't really expect any differently.

Warren? If she runs, I'll probably be behind her, unless someone even better steps into the ring. My opinion of Obama has nothing to do with it; he's not running in '16.

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Regardless of what you think about Obama, a vast majority of the party still loves him... [View all] Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 OP

in their districts -- 'popular' elects tea party candidates. xchrom Nov 2013 #1

You probably don't give a fuck about winning, either. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #3

you think more highly of your opinion than i do. nt xchrom Nov 2013 #12

That's the problem - you think I need your validation. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #13

i don't think about you ...or your opinion at all. nt xchrom Nov 2013 #19

Good. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #21

Popular elected Barack Obama. pnwmom Nov 2013 #33

I love both Warren and Obama. Whisp Nov 2013 #2

I agree and I think Warren would agree with you there. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #4

+1 russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #6

Yes! passiveporcupine Nov 2013 #31

So do I. I'm not ready to throw him under the bus. calimary Nov 2013 #43

Warren's great. I encourage her to run in the primaries. MineralMan Nov 2013 #5

How President Obama will or won't fare in the eyes of historians simply isn't known cali Nov 2013 #9

My opinion is that he will be remembered well in history. MineralMan Nov 2013 #17

I think you'll be proven correct. calimary Nov 2013 #44

Thanks. MineralMan Nov 2013 #54

I don't think for a moment that I'm articulating the majority position when cali Nov 2013 #7

I'm not really talking Hillary... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #11

I don't disagree that most democrats support the President cali Nov 2013 #15

There is a great deal of evidence... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #18

abortion services have been severely curtailed over the past few years. cali Nov 2013 #24

I think you're already starting to see blowback on the anti-choice agenda... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #26

It's not a matter of seeing what I want to see. It's a matter of FACTS cali Nov 2013 #41

any problems people have with Obama RainDog Nov 2013 #8

I appreciate Obama's efforts walkingman Nov 2013 #10

Welcome to DU. cali Nov 2013 #16

welcome to DU gopiscrap Nov 2013 #35

Welcome to DU, walkingman! calimary Nov 2013 #45

I could vote for Warren. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #14

K&R from a proud member of the 80% of Democrats Progressive dog Nov 2013 #20

I do. Iliyah Nov 2013 #28

Do the actual statistics - truedelphi Nov 2013 #22

Well they're not meaningless... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #23

And the "love" part is misleading too zeemike Nov 2013 #39

Cults of personality are sick and dangerous. Sad to see it. cali Nov 2013 #42

K & R Iliyah Nov 2013 #25

I still support him! samplegirl Nov 2013 #27

BHO is an '80s Republican. Glad you like 80s GOP. Bet you'll like 90s GOP, too, especially in blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #36

D'oh! Add country and world. Coyotl Nov 2013 #29

80%, huh? Proof that too many moderate Republicans have infiltrated the DEM Party. I was out on BHO blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #30

"I was out on BHO in 2012". blue neen Nov 2013 #46

Pot, meet kettle. 99Forever Nov 2013 #32

I don't think Warren would go along with that fadedrose Nov 2013 #34

Still like him - don't always agree LibGranny Nov 2013 #37

"Obama's approval, according to Gallup, is 80% with Democrats." R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #38

Very true...it might be higher. Maybe 90%. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #40

Or not accurate at all. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2013 #47

How predictable. woo me with science Nov 2013 #48

that's for sure cali Nov 2013 #49

+++! Excellent post. who or what is responsible, and has it always been this way? solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #62

Exactly. nt laundry_queen Nov 2013 #67

I'm happy with Obama gollygee Nov 2013 #50

Warren is not going to run against Hillary... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #51

There are a couple of years gollygee Nov 2013 #52

it is not going to happen... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2013 #55

I don't honestly care what you think gollygee Nov 2013 #56

What is the fixation on "loving Obama"? djean111 Nov 2013 #53

Love? No. But he's the President. His supporters make up a huge amount of the party... Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #58

Do you really think the DNC gives a flying fuck if some Democrats do not like Obama? djean111 Nov 2013 #59

Because that's what I said, right? Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #61

He's very likeable. polichick Nov 2013 #57

I advocate for my position. LWolf Nov 2013 #60

"Obama and his administration have accomplished this with me: polichick Nov 2013 #63

Yes, and LWolf Nov 2013 #68

I've always been proud to be an enthusiastic Obama supporter, IrishAyes Nov 2013 #64

We should not be tearing down anyone in the party because there just aren't that many any more libdem4life Nov 2013 #65

Of course there's a need for corporate "help". The system has cali Nov 2013 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author duffyduff Nov 2013 #66

Here is what you are missing.... Logical Nov 2013 #70

You raise a good point. Laelth Nov 2013 #71