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Niceguy1

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82. it is alaays better

Reply to idwiyo (Reply #79)

Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:04 PM

Nov 2013

To advocate for the less invasive proceedure to reduce the need for a surgical one.

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Abortion is just like any other medical and surgical procedure, a necessity to treat... [View all] Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 OP

Are you a man? renie408 Nov 2013 #1

Yes, why? n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #5

Because I cannot understand why your opinion on abortion is any more valid than renie408 Nov 2013 #15

Actually, my post is far more sensitive than you think... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #16

Well, I am glad you cleared that up for me. renie408 Nov 2013 #20

If you're implying that it MUST carry more emotional baggage than a tonsillectomy, you're wrong. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #21

Yes, I think that is the CLEAR interpretation of what I have written... renie408 Nov 2013 #29

Oh right, you MUST be a snarky asshole on DU, I forgot. Ok, let me jump on that. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #30

No, you tend to be a snarky asshole when people misrepresent what you have written. renie408 Nov 2013 #32

I said nothing about emotional baggage, hell my Dad had a bad type of survivor's guilt... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #26

"Abortion is just like any other medical and surgical procedure, a necessity to treat..." renie408 Nov 2013 #36

I did write it in a clinical fashion... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #40

Abortion IS like any other medical procedure. It's no different than tooth extraction. idwiyo Nov 2013 #88

"The moral or emotional value you assign to it has nothing to do with procedure itself." Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #93

Your OP is perfectly fine. What's is wrong, is the stigma attached to this medical procedure. idwiyo Nov 2013 #97

Sorry but Men don't belong in this argument -EVER ! I know you meant well 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #59

Unlike you I am always happy to hear from supporters. idwiyo Nov 2013 #89

Of course we belong, it affects our decision making, both politically and personally... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #94

Thank you for the dose of reality. pnwmom Nov 2013 #34

Who is denying the impact here? I'm concerned about the societal level only in... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #42

There have been many posts lately by people pnwmom Nov 2013 #47

I think the problem is that people are projecting their experiences onto others... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #56

I agree every person will react in her own unique way. pnwmom Nov 2013 #58

Since when are major medical procedures considered trivial? Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #61

Bollocks! Ours are results of scientific studies, yours are anecdotes. Ours are facts, idwiyo Nov 2013 #76

Bullshit! There is nothing insencetive about this post. Never mind "regret" crap. idwiyo Nov 2013 #63

thank you PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #81

Nah, THANK YOU! idwiyo Nov 2013 #85

It can be like removing a splinter. lapislzi Nov 2013 #75

Well said. And that's totally ok, too. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #78

My experience was pure relief too. idwiyo Nov 2013 #86

I am strongly pro-choice and escort at Planned Parenthood, but no, HERVEPA Nov 2013 #2

With today's technology, any cells from any human have to potential to... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #6

In abortions, some degree of differentiation has already occurred. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #66

I don't see how that is relevant, nor why it would invalidate my comparison. n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #73

If you do work as an escort you should know that not every abortion... peace13 Nov 2013 #8

Of course. (It's volunteer, by the way). HERVEPA Nov 2013 #64

+10 rug Nov 2013 #11

Having had an ectopic and a 3 year old at the time HockeyMom Nov 2013 #80

'Every sperm is sacred' type of bullshit. It IS like any other medical condition to me. idwiyo Nov 2013 #92

Sorry but no Egnever Nov 2013 #3

It is always a necessity for the woman who chooses it to be. n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #4

Sorry but no it is always a choice Egnever Nov 2013 #7

I was putting it in context, and there are more than one treatment option for many other... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #9

They are different because Egnever Nov 2013 #12

So, in your world, pregnancy isn't a medical condition at all? n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #14

No, in my world abortion is not a necessity Egnever Nov 2013 #18

As I said, its a necessity for those who feel it is a necessity... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #22

I dont dissagree with that Egnever Nov 2013 #44

The human race would have ceased to exist long ago if abortions were a Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #51

I think the implication is that if Abortions were a necessity - every woman would have an abortion el_bryanto Nov 2013 #55

It is a necessity for every woman who thinks it is so. idwiyo Nov 2013 #90

are you a male ? if you are you have no validity in this-none! 4 t 4 Nov 2013 #62

That's bullshit. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #68

And as usual women's mental health, wants and dreams are casually discarded. Lars39 Nov 2013 #10

oooho strawmen! Egnever Nov 2013 #13

Really? Is a woman's brain somehow disconnected from her body? Lars39 Nov 2013 #23

Why is that a strawman? nt. polly7 Nov 2013 #24

Oh I don't know Egnever Nov 2013 #27

You're a forced birther if you discount women's mental health as a reason for abortion. Lars39 Nov 2013 #33

More strawman garbage Egnever Nov 2013 #39

Do you really believe women who have abortions don't polly7 Nov 2013 #41

Sally forth,polly7! Lars39 Nov 2013 #43

Clearly you are just going to continue to try to put words in my mouth Egnever Nov 2013 #45

No, I wasn't trying to do that at all. polly7 Nov 2013 #49

Some don't see carrying a child to term as an option at all. polly7 Nov 2013 #31

I have no problem with that Egnever Nov 2013 #35

So is gallbladder surgery Warpy Nov 2013 #37

Bollocks! It is a necessity if a woman decided she is not willing to play "incubator with legs" game idwiyo Nov 2013 #91

Untrue HERVEPA Nov 2013 #67

It's a necessity when a woman no longer wants to be pregnant. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #19

No Egnever Nov 2013 #25

Yes, it is. If a woman no longer wants to be pregnant, that is the only option. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #28

So what's your alternative for women who want to no longer be pregnant? jeff47 Nov 2013 #38

Abortion: a moral & positive choice that liberates women, saves lives, & protects families PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #17

The "choice" may be liberating but the outcome is the exact opposite. cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #46

It's extremely safe procedure and it saves countless millions of women from dying idwiyo Nov 2013 #69

the outcome arent always positive Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #50

Maybe you should start with changing the way you talk about abortion. Remove the stigma, and watch idwiyo Nov 2013 #71

I think that Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #74

That has what to do with stigmatising abortion, and damage it does to women as a result? idwiyo Nov 2013 #79

it is alaays better Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #82

That has what to do with stigmatising abortion, and damage it does to women as a result? idwiyo Nov 2013 #84

I don't talk about a bortion in that way Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #87

DU rec... SidDithers Nov 2013 #48

Um, no YarnAddict Nov 2013 #52

The health risks of carrying to term and delivery are much greater thank early termination. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #53

You seem to be unaware of the risks and complications associated with pregnancy... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #54

You really should google maternal death rates. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #57

Compare stats gollygee Nov 2013 #70

What "death of a patient"? Woman is The Patient. Period. Rest of it is forced-birthers crap! idwiyo Nov 2013 #72

Oh, I thought that poster was talking about the woman gollygee Nov 2013 #77

I am not buying that anyone can be so ignorant. Either way this post is pure RW anti-choice BS idwiyo Nov 2013 #83

Yes, I was talking about the woman as the patient. YarnAddict Nov 2013 #96

Abortion is safer than pregnancy, that's a fact. idwiyo Nov 2013 #98

I maintain that your point is based in ignorance. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #99

True. REP Nov 2013 #60

Thank you! This girl agrees with you 100%. Please, ignore "only man can say something like that" BS idwiyo Nov 2013 #65

No, it's not. cali Nov 2013 #95