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61. You're right!!! Ha! But not en masse. No matter what the lip service is, "groups of people" migrate

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Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:31 PM

Nov 2013

for basic needs, not religion.

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American Thanksgiving - let me get this straight... [View all] jazzimov Nov 2013 OP

It's just as bad as Columbus Day, really. (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #1

Oh Lord yeoman6987 Nov 2013 #29

How ironic. nt LWolf Nov 2013 #44

You don't know much about Columbus, do you? /nt Marr Nov 2013 #56

Can't be quite as embarrassing as not knowing which version of your/you're to use. EOTE Nov 2013 #69

Columbus was a murderous slave trader. piratefish08 Nov 2013 #70

You could get in a lot of trouble for telling these jaysunb Nov 2013 #2

For real. Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #36

And people wonder why often liberals ... earthside Nov 2013 #3

+1000. reformist2 Nov 2013 #41

Not exactly right William769 Nov 2013 #4

That's what I wondered treestar Nov 2013 #54

Worst part ... JoePhilly Nov 2013 #5

Yet people howl about stores being open on Thanksgiving Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #6

I think that via the mechanism of acculturation, pretty much every society will collectively celebra LanternWaste Nov 2013 #7

Wait...You mean I wasn't dressing up as a NASA astronaut (my favorite costume) ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #12

And I didn't dress up as a Indiana Jones (still my favorite costume) and drink a wee bit too much... LanternWaste Nov 2013 #14

you missed a couple of parts d_r Nov 2013 #8

I did not know that. However, I celebrate the myth of Wampanoag generosity. freshwest Nov 2013 #15

I don't think the generosity of the Wampanoag d_r Nov 2013 #16

Ah, I didn't mean that. I meant a day of peaceful celebration. And doubtless much embellished by the freshwest Nov 2013 #19

Pocahontas, though, is sort of a success story hfojvt Nov 2013 #23

The Virginia colony was a little different in intent. Benton D Struckcheon Nov 2013 #28

The word "myth" can have a much deeper meaning Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #52

got it d_r Nov 2013 #62

A holiday when one can hope to be off work with friends and family is just fine with me. goldent Nov 2013 #33

And it was mainly the Puritans, not the Pilgrims, who turned on the Native Americans starroute Nov 2013 #17

A lot messier than that. Igel Nov 2013 #9

I agree; the people of that time did not understand infection treestar Nov 2013 #55

They thanked the Native Americans by giving them blankets Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #10

No they didn't. former9thward Nov 2013 #18

Pilgrims did not do that. RebelOne Nov 2013 #65

The pilgrims did that? Dorian Gray Nov 2013 #71

I pay the historical context no mind. alphafemale Nov 2013 #11

Being Thankful & Gathering With Loved Ones Does Not Require A Holiday HangOnKids Nov 2013 #34

WTF is wrong with a holiday? Egnever Nov 2013 #37

You're right in one thing... pipi_k Nov 2013 #50

And karma has punished us Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #13

Circle of Violence JCMach1 Nov 2013 #20

I'm reading "The Barbarous Years" right now Recursion Nov 2013 #26

For me, it's a complicated mess how I feel about the history... JCMach1 Nov 2013 #31

I prefer to celebrate this version of Thanksgiving! csziggy Nov 2013 #21

Me too LiberalEsto Nov 2013 #24

No, you don't have that right Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #22

If you want to tell someone they are wrong please post some facts as to why HangOnKids Nov 2013 #35

Try this site Boom Sound 416 Nov 2013 #40

Not really Recursion Nov 2013 #25

No one leaves a country over religion. It had to be over money. That's the only reason. nt valerief Nov 2013 #27

Sure they do. Mariana Nov 2013 #38

You're right!!! Ha! But not en masse. No matter what the lip service is, "groups of people" migrate valerief Nov 2013 #61

IDK. Sarah Vowell's book "Wordy Shipmates" was a pretty good exploration of why they left Recursion Nov 2013 #48

Take an Indian to lunch this week! I think Stan Freburg got the facts down truthfully.... DreamGypsy Nov 2013 #30

It was America's first welfare line RobertEarl Nov 2013 #32

Boycott Thanksgiving, boycott Thanksgiving! davidpdx Nov 2013 #39

So go ahead and celebrate them... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #42

A review of this thread shows how Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #43

I'm reading Nathaniel Philbrick's book "Mayflower" Tanuki Nov 2013 #45

Modern Thanksgiving has fuck-all to do with history. Codeine Nov 2013 #46

You were good until that last word... Decaffeinated Nov 2013 #60

It is my least favorite holiday - and my family TBF Nov 2013 #47

Nah, I celebrate food. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #49

Meh... pipi_k Nov 2013 #51

the white folks FatBuddy Nov 2013 #53

They had religious Freedom in Amsterdam One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #57

Does anybody even notice the OP did a drive by? snooper2 Nov 2013 #58

Because I was drinking when I posted it jazzimov Nov 2013 #63

Our Family Robyn66 Nov 2013 #59

That's just silly Capt. Obvious Nov 2013 #64

Things have come a long way... pipi_k Nov 2013 #67

No. We celebrate the Harvest, thanking mother earth, father sky, god uppityperson Nov 2013 #66

You really think that is what I am celebrating with my family on Thanksgiving? nt. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #68