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Egalitarian Thug

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43. The point is exactly what was written. It is not 'OK' or 'not OK', it is Holland and up to the Dutch
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:20 PM
Nov 2013

to make their decisions, not hypocritically outraged Americans.

We can't even bring ourselves to admit that all people are people and as such possess the inalienable rights of humanity.

They are coming around (s l o w l y) antiquie Nov 2013 #1
I don't think we should necessarily impose US standards on other cultures. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #2
Actually they were a part of the slave trade to the Americas JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #4
I think an awareness on a national level of the realities of racism is a first step. MADem Nov 2013 #17
A further step on this JustAnotherGen Nov 2013 #22
Ain't that the truth! nt MADem Nov 2013 #25
Yes, and the first ship that brought Africans to the English N American BainsBane Nov 2013 #35
My sister Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #44
The Dutch were also early colonizers if Africa yardwork Nov 2013 #58
This is a little different than a symbol that the Nazis stole and used for their own purposes. MADem Nov 2013 #7
Years ago my son, who idolized Michael Jordan, wanted to be his hero for Halloween. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #19
I don't think the Dutch are stupid, though--and they aren't little kids, either. MADem Nov 2013 #29
In the US it would definitely be racist treestar Nov 2013 #33
The United States is the LEAST racist nation on Earth. Laelth Nov 2013 #3
Original material from WAPO 4Q2u2 Nov 2013 #6
Interesting map. I think their work is incomplete, but it certainly is a starting point. nt MADem Nov 2013 #11
Good Info 4Q2u2 Nov 2013 #13
Nice link. "Anglo and Latin countries most tolerant" except for Venezuela and Dominican Republic. pampango Nov 2013 #14
Forgot to add this in the answer 4Q2u2 Nov 2013 #8
Excellent. Laelth Nov 2013 #9
No, the US fought a war over southern secession. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #21
Sigh. We're not perfect by any means. Laelth Nov 2013 #28
US is the least racist on Earth? Back that one up. It is absurd. kwassa Nov 2013 #54
See links and studies above. Laelth Nov 2013 #57
You made a giant sweeping statement that you really can't substantiate. kwassa Nov 2013 #59
I think you're naive about racism in the rest of the world. Laelth Nov 2013 #62
You could try substantiating your claim. kwassa Nov 2013 #63
I have represented African-Americans in lawsuits under the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Laelth Nov 2013 #64
No amount of evidence will suffice? Why don't you try me? kwassa Nov 2013 #66
Your continued attacks on the credibility and knowledge of an ally are counterproductive. Laelth Nov 2013 #67
I have visited foreign countries. What is your point? kwassa Nov 2013 #68
This is about a former client of mine, fyi. Laelth Nov 2013 #65
"11 percent of the population is foreign-born" - about the same as the US. pampango Nov 2013 #5
picture of 'black pete' Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #10
I've always loved this take on it: Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #12
Beat me to it! nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #15
That's what immediately came to mind. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2013 #18
How the hell did I miss that! It's so hilarious because it's true! nt MADem Nov 2013 #26
One of my favorites! MadrasT Nov 2013 #34
I am going to meet (for the 1st time) my Dutch future brother in law in two hours, I will ask him. CBGLuthier Nov 2013 #16
Be careful what you say! Dutch people are sensitive about Black Pete mainer Nov 2013 #20
Well, I wouldn't lump "all" the Dutch in that pile. MADem Nov 2013 #27
My family is Dutch mainer Nov 2013 #31
How do the non-white family members feel about the whole slave/Moor business? MADem Nov 2013 #36
one non-white member is from Surinam mainer Nov 2013 #42
Well, all a "Moor" is, is a dark skinned Muslim person, from North Africa. MADem Nov 2013 #46
Come back and let us know what he has to say, if you get a chance to MADem Nov 2013 #30
The only Dutch I know are West Michigan Dutch gollygee Nov 2013 #23
Zwarte Pete will end up going along the way of Brer Rabbit NightWatcher Nov 2013 #24
If they started it before they had an African Immigrants treestar Nov 2013 #32
It's been going on for WAAAAAAY longer than they had any substantial immigration. MADem Nov 2013 #39
Yes. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #37
Who said the world was American? Not really sure what point you're making. MADem Nov 2013 #40
The point is exactly what was written. It is not 'OK' or 'not OK', it is Holland and up to the Dutch Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #43
How about the people who are offended by their "traditions?" You're saying they need to shut up? MADem Nov 2013 #45
There is no right to being free from offense (including you NoCal). I'm not defending their Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #49
I could not disagree with you more. I think your views are really strange, in fact. MADem Nov 2013 #50
Well said, MADem. Very well said. n/t pampango Nov 2013 #51
Thank you. nt MADem Nov 2013 #53
Of course you couldn't, big surprise there. You're more than happy to tell everybody else Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #60
That's an even stranger post than your last one. nt MADem Nov 2013 #61
I'm reminded of the recent Thai "blackface" Dunkin' Donuts ad... devils chaplain Nov 2013 #38
I started a thread on that awhile back. MADem Nov 2013 #41
David Sedaris has a hilarious piece about this regarding our Santa vs. europe's St. Nicholas. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #47
It's upthread--I busted a gut laughing! nt MADem Nov 2013 #48
Many traditions are racist malaise Nov 2013 #52
If I recall my college world history Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2013 #55
They were in the mix early on--they didn't have a huge share of the trade, but they MADem Nov 2013 #56
They were early to the gate, as were the Portuguese. MADem Dec 2013 #71
the dutch were huge slavers heaven05 Dec 2013 #69
What is your problem? MADem Dec 2013 #70
I know, old posting, sorry madem heaven05 Dec 2013 #72
No worries--have better days. Cheers! nt MADem Dec 2013 #73
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