For all of us favoring a Single-Payer (public health system)

[phantom power]

2. three thoughts...

1) I doubt you can make that kind of fundamental change with no disruption. I've never been a big fan of arguing against legislation on the grounds that it will be disruptive. Change is always disruptive to somebody.

2) These days, I also think, "compared to what -- it's not like we have a thriving economy now."

3) Although the single-payer / universal-healthcare histories I can think of happened when the medical industry in general was a lot smaller, maybe there are case studies of countries that already did this, and how it played out for them. For that matter, Vermont is about to do it, so there will be that experiment.