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Pretzel_Warrior

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23. we've got some really really really crotchety ultra liberals who whine about everything

Fri Nov 22, 2013, 07:25 PM

Nov 2013

Obama. So....they are the exact idealogical opposites of tea partiers but won't admit it.

They are the bleeding edge of liberalism and out-there thinking or non-thinking.

Consider that over 85% of self-described liberal Democrats said they supported and approved of Obama around the time of the heated news cycles around Syria and Snoweden.

So a broad swath of the U.S. is pretty moderate to liberal and will get on board to make this policy improvement work.

Don't be dragged down by the naysayers.

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I am now totally confused. Does DU support the ACA or not? [View all] philosslayer Nov 2013 OP

Surprisingly, the many people here on DU have many opinions. arcane1 Nov 2013 #1

So you started a thread and got negative feedback, welcome to DU. Rex Nov 2013 #2

I do. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2013 #3

The most common view is that it is an improvement, but still much worse than single payer. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #4

We have no choice but to support it at this point. Laelth Nov 2013 #5

On a scale of one to ten.. sendero Nov 2013 #6

where do you put ACA with public option? 6? 7? Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #28

Depends. sendero Nov 2013 #69

It's a discussion board. We have many opinions we are many people. We discuss. mucifer Nov 2013 #7

Whew ! Thanks for reminding us. pangaia Nov 2013 #45

There are lots of DUers who bash Obama and the ACA... SidDithers Nov 2013 #8

In your confusion you may have missed that whining about DU is outside the SOP of GD cthulu2016 Nov 2013 #9

asking for clarification on consensus views around here is not whining Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #27

Well, since you're new around here, let me explain a couple things. Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #10

Uhh... sorry philosslayer Nov 2013 #17

The last thing you mention is a fact edhopper Nov 2013 #31

"this post is a little trollish" NoOneMan Nov 2013 #35

We also tend to oppose rounding Pi off to an even 3, as the Bible would have is do, Jackpine Radical Nov 2013 #42

All Blacks? edhopper Nov 2013 #54

DU wasn't "pro same sex marriage" until Obama finished evolving. MNBrewer Nov 2013 #52

"epistemological orthodoxy" <-- blaahahhhahaha! nashville_brook Nov 2013 #56

I copied from the previous poster genius philosslayer Nov 2013 #62

slay that philosophy hoss nashville_brook Nov 2013 #74

Those are good points. ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #82

That's because Skinner explicitly prohibits one and explicitly allows the other. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #84

No, there are several anti-choicers among us allowed to post their drivel as well. PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #83

Of course you saw the thread, you posted it. last1standing Nov 2013 #11

it wasn't propaganda. it was a call to other like-minded folks to work to make things better Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Nov 2013 #12

DU is not made up of Republicans. kentuck Nov 2013 #13

You're surprised at ambivalence? Really? Marr Nov 2013 #14

So you want ACA to fail? philosslayer Nov 2013 #18

I'm sorry-- are you under the impression that liberals have magical powers? Marr Nov 2013 #19

But now that it's the best he could get treestar Nov 2013 #34

How does my lack of enthusiasm for the ACA help Republicans? /nt Marr Nov 2013 #59

They get more negativity thrown at it treestar Nov 2013 #71

Yes, I would. Marr Nov 2013 #76

They get to say the left doesn't support it either treestar Nov 2013 #78

So if people like myself would only cheer harder for the ACA, we might get Single Payer? Marr Nov 2013 #79

Where have I heard "you're either with us or against us" before? last1standing Nov 2013 #60

No middle ground is something you find at Free Republic. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #93

Some do, some don't. We have varying opinions here, Skip Intro Nov 2013 #15

"I guess some people aren't happy unless they get their pony." Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #16

Are we allowed to write OPs that mention "ponies" and such? LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #85

not everyone agrees alc Nov 2013 #20

Ambivalence PowerToThePeople Nov 2013 #21

I don't know why you'd be confused. LWolf Nov 2013 #22

we've got some really really really crotchety ultra liberals who whine about everything Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #23

You're confused that a forum with tens of thousands of users isn't a monolith? (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2013 #24

I don't want the ACA to fail. However, insurance finance reform is not Autumn Nov 2013 #26

DU does. Some confused DU members don't. Of course you have the third category (trolls). nt William769 Nov 2013 #29

There are many a troll on DU these days. nt okaawhatever Nov 2013 #44

If you have an accusation, make it philosslayer Nov 2013 #49

Oh, Lord no. You my dear are the anti-troll. I believe in the ACA/Obamacare. I know that single okaawhatever Nov 2013 #51

I do not know of anyone on here trying to sabotage the ACA rurallib Nov 2013 #58

they claim to be constructively critical from the left treestar Nov 2013 #30

My pony has a torn ligament NoOneMan Nov 2013 #32

Vets are a waste of time for torn ligaments anyway. Save the money. renie408 Nov 2013 #37

Okay, i take this topic seriously... philosslayer Nov 2013 #50

The day the DU universally agrees on ANYTHING renie408 Nov 2013 #33

A lot of DUers are under the impression single-payer will just happen if we vote on it. Drunken Irishman Nov 2013 #36

Wait...I thought we had to click our ruby slippers together and say renie408 Nov 2013 #38

I support it as a stepping stone to Single-payer, which is where it will take us. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #39

How will mandating that everyone under 65 buy private insurance Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #65

It goes like this... Fumesucker Nov 2013 #66

word. KG Nov 2013 #67

if people have to be browbeaten into supporting dems Enrique Nov 2013 #40

Compared to what we had before, a resounding yes. Compared to single payer, no. However, we do not lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #41

But the Democrats couldn't pass single payer without the Nuclear option, and they couldn't pass... NoOneMan Nov 2013 #43

Sorry to say but some Democrats in Congress never wanted single payer lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #53

bing bing bing NoOneMan Nov 2013 #55

the President is not well-liked stillcool Nov 2013 #46

ACA has good and bad features; politically it would have been a win; but the launch was screwed up FarCenter Nov 2013 #47

If it came down to a question of keeping the ACA or returning to the old system, nyquil_man Nov 2013 #48

Even I don't favor repeal, who is going to just return folks to the predatory individual market? TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #75

The name of this site is DemocraticUnderground, Jamaal510 Nov 2013 #57

I think it's important to ask questions Texasgal Nov 2013 #61

All or nothing, baby! Yeah!!! Iggo Nov 2013 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #64

So you wrote a post whining about the perceived lack of support for a bad republican idea, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #68

Moderates in Service to Mediocrity miss Meta very much!!!!! Bluenorthwest Nov 2013 #70

lol-- no kidding. Marr Nov 2013 #81

Yes and No JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2013 #72

that poor man! he's been forced to run and get elected president twice, and is KG Nov 2013 #73

Not everyone who posts to DU is a real DUer. nt valerief Nov 2013 #77

I have mixed feelings about ACA, though mostly positive. ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #80

I'm with you zombie. Jesus Malverde Nov 2013 #89

A segment of the DU population doesn't support President Obama BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #86

Yes and No fadedrose Nov 2013 #87

You can post all the insulting threads you want... polichick Nov 2013 #88

Some parts of it are...OK. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #90

It is easy to get confused... bobGandolf Nov 2013 #91

Some people like it, some hate it, some like parts and don't like other parts Marrah_G Nov 2013 #92

it's better than what we had, but it's not perfect La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #94