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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]Bonobo
(29,257 posts)But I think it is a difference than is not relevant. One that is more set by biology than anything else.
Remember, some women may fantasize about raping a man, but you will no doubt say that that is fine since it doest happen much in real life.
But look at what you wrote:
"the man will do whatever he wants to the woman and the screams to stop will remain unheard..."
What screams? Remember this is a fantasy. In his fantasy world, they are not real screams because, in your own words, everything he imagines what HE WANTS. He may imagine that the woman is scared, he may imagine that the woman starts liking it during the act, but the point is that it is a FANTASY.
Just as in your example where a woman may imagine or pretend that she is scared, she is actually in control. Well in this case, the man is imagining a situation that is not reality. His being excited by the fantasy is no more real than the woman being excited by being raped.
In the fantasy, the woman is not really being raped. By PRECISELY the same logic, the man's fantasy is also not really rape. I am sorry, but you completely go against your own logic.
Yes, different, but a difference without a distinction.