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Butch McQueen

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Sun Nov 24, 2013, 04:46 PM Nov 2013

I Can't Figure Out How Anyone In The 80% Could Be Right Wing [View all]

Is it a fear driven inability to acknowledge the precarious nature of their own security? "It will never happen to me" narcissism? Just plain old being dumb? I just can't get my mind around it!

I have an elderly (mid 70s) acquaintance who is constantly posting right wing themed bumper stickers on her facebook page (No Work, No Eat... that kind of crap) and I frequently have advised her to be careful what she wishes for. She has a daughter who because of health issues hasn't worked in years. Her daughter receives a disability check, food stamps, rent assistance, and has had Medicaid and state programs pay for what is easily over $1,000,000 in costs for medical needs over the last couple of years. When I remind her that her daughter would literally be dead if it weren't for these "welfare" programs she tells me "oh no I'm not talking about people like her"! I've tried and tried to explain that the people trying to reduce or eliminate all these programs are talking about people exactly like her daughter it falls on deaf ears. I ran into her a couple days ago and she was complaining about the fact her daughter's food stamp benefit was being reduced. Rather than say "I told you so" I once again tried to draw the causality between right wing viewpoints and her daughter's situation - which proved to be a waste of time.

I have a friend who is in his 60s who is on Medicare. He has had coronary by-pass surgery twice. He despises "Obamacare" with every breath he draws. He refuses to understand that the ACA isn't about "free" healthcare, it is insurance. I ask him what he would do if Medicare was reduced or eliminated. He says "I'd get back all the taxes I've paid and buy a private insurance policy"! I can not make him understand that, A: Without the ACA his pre-existing condition would guarantee no insurer would ever touch him with a 10 foot pole. And B: Without Medicare he would be up the creek because even if he could get insurance the policy would cost tens of thousands a month. His only response is to repeat the mantra of "the government is bad".

I have another friend who is in his 40s. He was raised in a single parent home by an alcoholic mother. Without "welfare" the family would have been living under a bridge somewhere. He has a daughter who is a single mother raising five children, without "welfare" they would be living under a bridge somewhere. He is employed in a very cyclic industry where periodic layoffs are a fact of life, so he himself has benefited from unemployment and food stamps. In spite of all this he is a total "Dittos Rush" right wind zealot. When I point out to him how many times "welfare: has saved 3 generations of his family all I hear back is the "I pay taxes I've earned those things". Being persistent, I actually start running the numbers... what he has paid in taxes vs what 3 generations of his family has received and demonstrate that from a accounting perspective he is way in the red to society as a whole. His response, "If I hadn't had to pay the taxes in the first place I could have invested the money and become a millionaire"!

The sad thing is these people I've described and the attitudes they have are not a minority amongst my acquaintances, they are a large majority (maybe I need to start hanging out with a better class of people!). As my wife described it the other day, "Their being Republicans would be like African-Americans joining a pro-slavery group".

So, back to the original question... Are they scared, narcissistic, or just plain dumb?

thanks for tolerating my rant!

Butch



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It's a rant lots of folks have made, although not as well as you. But, you really Hoyt Nov 2013 #1
Repugs specialize in propaganda elleng Nov 2013 #2
Welcome to DU, I see and hear this all the time. It amazes me so many people vote Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #3
But, using their 'logic', they are exceptional tsuki Nov 2013 #11
Thanks for the welcome! Butch McQueen Nov 2013 #13
There's plenty of right wingers on the DU Fumesucker Nov 2013 #29
Dumb. Really. Of course, the lack of critical thinking is cultivated via religion. valerief Nov 2013 #4
They're the 'just in case' folks... Tikki Nov 2013 #5
I've come to this conclusion as of late, scorpiogirl Nov 2013 #6
You partly answered the question by mentioning Rush... polichick Nov 2013 #7
Thanks! I never really thought of it in those terms Butch McQueen Nov 2013 #14
At least it's fun to think about. Welcome to DU! polichick Nov 2013 #17
To answer your question...........Yes abq e streeter Nov 2013 #8
I have no problem figuring it out. cali Nov 2013 #9
I'm guessing that you were not alive, or at least not old enough to know Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #10
Naw I'm a semi-old guy Butch McQueen Nov 2013 #16
Oops, I read your title as anyone in the '80s. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #24
Great question and someone once told me the beginning of great wisdom is asking great questions.. Vietnameravet Nov 2013 #12
God. NightWatcher Nov 2013 #15
Preacher and his/her church need to be taxed emsimon33 Nov 2013 #18
Well sometimes all 3 both and there is a 4th reason as well kydo Nov 2013 #19
Because Democrats / Liberals don't appeal to them, and in fact many look down on them AZ Progressive Nov 2013 #20
that last one is kidding himself treestar Nov 2013 #21
it's the authoritarian mind at work 0rganism Nov 2013 #22
+1 and thanks. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2013 #25
It's an US and THEM mentality. There are problems in this country, huge debt and deficit, decreasing okaawhatever Nov 2013 #23
I Like Your Rant Butch McQueen Nov 2013 #32
Just plain dumb, but also ill-informed and lied to on a regular basis. stopbush Nov 2013 #26
Glad to see you on DU and your post is an accurrate observation. not a rant IMO Populist_Prole Nov 2013 #27
I don't understand why people think Obamacare... NaturalHigh Nov 2013 #28
Yea, I'm going to go directly with Shankapotomus Nov 2013 #30
They are scared, primarily, I think. Laelth Nov 2013 #31
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