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In reply to the discussion: Scott Adams blog: I Hope My Father Dies Soon [View all]KamaAina
(78,249 posts)48. Alas, churches ARE allowed to support or oppose ballot measures. Just not candidates.
Look at the Mormons (followed closely by the Catholics) and Prop H8 in CA.
It may, however, surprise you to learn that by no means all of the opposition to physician-assisted suicide comes from the religious wrong. The disability rights community is concerned that the "right to die" might quickly become a "duty to die".
http://dredf.org/public-policy/assisted-suicide/why-assisted-suicide-must-not-be-legalized/
Assisted suicide strikes many people, when they first hear about it, as a cause to support. But upon closer inspection, there are many reasons why legalization is a serious mistake. Supporters focus on superficial issues of choice and self-determination. It is crucial to look deeper. Legalizing assisted suicide would not increase choice and self-determination, despite the assertions of its proponents. It would actually augment real dangers that negate genuine choice and control.
The disability communitys opposition is based on the dangers to people with disabilities and the devaluation of disabled peoples lives that result from assisted suicide. Further, this opposition stems from factors that directly impact the disability community as well as all of society. These factors include the secrecy in which assisted suicide operates today, even where it is legal; the lack of robust oversight and the absence of investigation of abuse; the reality of who uses it; the dangers of legalization to further erode the quality of the U.S. health care system; and its potential for other significant harms.
In view of this reality, we address many of the disability-related effects of assisted suicide, while also encompassing the larger social context that inseparably impacts people with disabilities as well as the broader public. First, after addressing common misunderstandings, we examine fear and bias toward disability, and the deadly interaction of assisted suicide and our profit-driven health care system. Second, we review the practice of assisted suicide in Oregon, the first U.S. state to legalize it, and debunk the merits of the so-called Oregon model. By detailing significant problems with Oregons supposed safeguards, we raise some of its real dangers, particularly for people with depression and other psychiatric disabilities. Third and finally, we explore the ways that so-called narrow assisted suicide proposals can easily expand. This article focuses primarily on conditions in the United States, though much of our discussion also applies in other countries.
In short, we must separate our private wishes for what we each may hope to have available for ourselves some daya hope that often fails to understand how assisted suicide actually operatesand, rather, focus on the significant dangers of legalizing assisted suicide as public policy in our society today. Assisted suicide would have many unintended consequences.
The disability communitys opposition is based on the dangers to people with disabilities and the devaluation of disabled peoples lives that result from assisted suicide. Further, this opposition stems from factors that directly impact the disability community as well as all of society. These factors include the secrecy in which assisted suicide operates today, even where it is legal; the lack of robust oversight and the absence of investigation of abuse; the reality of who uses it; the dangers of legalization to further erode the quality of the U.S. health care system; and its potential for other significant harms.
In view of this reality, we address many of the disability-related effects of assisted suicide, while also encompassing the larger social context that inseparably impacts people with disabilities as well as the broader public. First, after addressing common misunderstandings, we examine fear and bias toward disability, and the deadly interaction of assisted suicide and our profit-driven health care system. Second, we review the practice of assisted suicide in Oregon, the first U.S. state to legalize it, and debunk the merits of the so-called Oregon model. By detailing significant problems with Oregons supposed safeguards, we raise some of its real dangers, particularly for people with depression and other psychiatric disabilities. Third and finally, we explore the ways that so-called narrow assisted suicide proposals can easily expand. This article focuses primarily on conditions in the United States, though much of our discussion also applies in other countries.
In short, we must separate our private wishes for what we each may hope to have available for ourselves some daya hope that often fails to understand how assisted suicide actually operatesand, rather, focus on the significant dangers of legalizing assisted suicide as public policy in our society today. Assisted suicide would have many unintended consequences.
Disclaimer: I have worked with the author in the past. I can assure you that she is as progressive as any of us.
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And not everybody dies in hospice. My mother is now 3 years out of hospice and
sinkingfeeling
Nov 2013
#42
Very understandable, and absolutely nothing to be alarmed or shocked about, IMNSHO.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#5
I'm not judging and please feel free to ignore my question if its too personal/painful
riderinthestorm
Nov 2013
#73
Thank you for posting it. I feel exactly as Mr Adams does. It's torture, pure and simple.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#4
You forgot about GREED. The longer someone lives, the more money can be made off them.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#8
"devolved" might be a better word. at one time, doctors might actually have cared about "healing".
niyad
Nov 2013
#37
Torture for profit. Every one of us has or is going to go through this.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#54
I am thankful there is Dignitas and I am close enough to be able to make it there.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#57
They got my mother and my little sister. They tortured mom for months while draining her assets.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#58
Thank you. It is horrific and most people refuse to even talk about it.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2013
#61
I will talk about it, and I will and do support every effort to make euthansia legal.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#63
I can't describe how sorry I am. This is beyond horrific, knowing it's not just one person but many
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#72
Alas, churches ARE allowed to support or oppose ballot measures. Just not candidates.
KamaAina
Nov 2013
#48
"women are treated differently by society for exactly the same reason that children...
ZRT2209
Nov 2013
#16
sorry, got that wrong. the man is a misogynistic creep, and his feelings for his father do not
niyad
Nov 2013
#40
there is a difference between dumb and hateful. you are free to make whatever assessment you
niyad
Nov 2013
#90
Sorry, this was taken out of context and misinterpreted by someone who can not read.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#62
sorry, I read the whole damned thing, and it was disgusting, no matter how he tried to weasel
niyad
Nov 2013
#76
Unfortunately there is no cure for willful blindness, and I am not talking about Mr Adams here.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#82
While nothing to be proud about, you do get a point for admitting to it publicly.
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#91
when my adversary is a misogynistic jerk who denies my humanity, my right to existence, claiims
niyad
Nov 2013
#71
On the other hand, it's great at fostering an air of smug, patronizing condescension.
Orrex
Nov 2013
#94
tweeting and raping are on the same level??? wow. . .just. . .wow. won't say what I think should
niyad
Nov 2013
#41
Another taken out of content quote. Have you actually bothered to read what he wrote?
idwiyo
Nov 2013
#65
Guessing no = He just can blame "the gubermint " now even if it is one he voted in!!!
lunasun
Nov 2013
#30
Yes, his complaint should be with the RW politicians who only care about the unborn fetus and then
Fla Dem
Nov 2013
#43
If he doesn't have his mental faculties anymore, then SOMEONE has medical power of attorney
kestrel91316
Nov 2013
#53
There's a lot of conditions where the person can still linger and linger and linger
jeff47
Nov 2013
#68
Scott Adams is a capitaliist misogynist tool but even a tool is right sometimes.
hunter
Nov 2013
#75