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RainDog

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27. Thanks for your reply!
Mon Nov 25, 2013, 10:08 PM
Nov 2013

My experience with the issue of porn was via second-wave feminists who opposed the Dworkin/MacKinnon legislation because of two principles - the first was 1st amendment issues and the second was "unintended consequences" of the attempt to eliminate "vice" - which is not limited to porn or prostitution, but also concerns drugs, alcohol, and other substances/behaviors.

My pov, b/c of my educational and interpersonal experiences, is that economic empowerment is, b/c of the way our society is set up, the best defense against all sorts of "vice" issues.

This doesn't solve all problems, of course. Nothing does. But a basic minimum income seems to me to be the best defense against abuses of power and people.

I have a friend who dated a woman in the porn industry for a while and they're still friends. She has some interesting insights. The reason she got into the business was because of financial opportunity there that wasn't available to her elsewhere. She was in the industry willingly, and now she's out of it.

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I've noticed something here on DU RandySF Nov 2013 #1
I've watched porn, just not the so-called "simulated rape" porn that's been discussed. last1standing Nov 2013 #5
It is claiming to be real rape gollygee Nov 2013 #85
In the legal sense, that is called "puffery." last1standing Nov 2013 #86
If they write that it is real rape gollygee Nov 2013 #87
Again, not in the legal sense. last1standing Nov 2013 #88
People have to write "barely legal" with very young women gollygee Nov 2013 #90
They don't have to, they do it to keep the law off their backs. last1standing Nov 2013 #92
Well then I'll say it gollygee Nov 2013 #93
We don't disagree on that subject. last1standing Nov 2013 #94
It does, doesn't it? RainDog Nov 2013 #10
I've studied the subject and have worked in the industry. Is that good enough? last1standing Nov 2013 #2
actually RainDog Nov 2013 #52
I'm pretty vanilla, myself, especially when restraint or pain is involved. last1standing Nov 2013 #69
I'm a male porn star. Ask me anything! flvegan Nov 2013 #3
The things I see when I check in on DU. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #4
He was on the down low. kwassa Nov 2013 #9
The closest he's come to porn stardom is grabbing my camera off the nightstand. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #11
If you want to return the pics, feel free. flvegan Nov 2013 #13
She uploaded them to one of those sites. kwassa Nov 2013 #16
Nope, they're ALL MINE. *villain laugh* LeftyMom Nov 2013 #18
So... look for "Veggie Tails?" RainDog Nov 2013 #19
Shhhh... flvegan Nov 2013 #21
actually, "Veggie Pit-Bull Tails" kwassa Nov 2013 #25
Not if you know where to look. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #68
Hmmm...I should have some royalty checks coming then. flvegan Nov 2013 #20
They probably passed my birthday present in the mail. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #23
I didn't know royalty checks could do that! kentauros Nov 2013 #47
Oh I've got something for you. RandySF Nov 2013 #6
We are the studs and we do flvegan Nov 2013 #15
You've got a typo. Dr. Strange Nov 2013 #111
The only porn I've ever liked is in comic book form. kentauros Nov 2013 #7
I would assume RainDog Nov 2013 #31
Did you ever get to read Omaha The Cat Dancer? kentauros Nov 2013 #32
I'll have to check it out RainDog Nov 2013 #35
I don't think it's in print any more, but look up Reed Waller. kentauros Nov 2013 #37
I skimmed 50 Shades soon after it was published RainDog Nov 2013 #45
Writing porn is difficult. kentauros Nov 2013 #46
Yeah. I think it has its own challenges RainDog Nov 2013 #49
Sounds like you had fun anyway :) kentauros Nov 2013 #50
Great series Blue_Adept Nov 2013 #108
I think they then refelected that in the story, kentauros Nov 2013 #110
How does one define "some porn"? Kaleva Nov 2013 #8
in opposition to "no porn" RainDog Nov 2013 #12
Okay. Sounds good to me and I voted accordingly. Thanks! Kaleva Nov 2013 #14
oops Skittles Nov 2013 #51
Your unedited post was much more interesting! Kaleva Nov 2013 #59
I wasn't trying to insinuate anything!! Skittles Nov 2013 #60
Of the quantitative options, PhD in porn fits best. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #17
Thanks for your reply! RainDog Nov 2013 #27
Agreed. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #34
Yes. Education and information RainDog Nov 2013 #48
I've seen so many threads recently about this "porn" thingummy that I'm petronius Nov 2013 #22
No use checking the internet, you won't find any there. dimbear Nov 2013 #53
I am constantly and proudly proclaiming my love of porn on DU, No Shame Heather MC Nov 2013 #24
I went with option number three. I can't resist a good pun. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #26
you're just philosophical n/t RainDog Nov 2013 #29
okay libodem Nov 2013 #84
I like watching porn at Olive Garden Atman Nov 2013 #28
Is your pitbull circumcised, though? kentauros Nov 2013 #39
I don't talk much about porn here, but I used to host some porn sites Recursion Nov 2013 #30
interesting RainDog Nov 2013 #33
Piracy is an even bigger problem for them than for music studios Recursion Nov 2013 #36
pardon my ignorance RainDog Nov 2013 #40
The hackers will pay one tenth of a cent per infected computer (or however much) Recursion Nov 2013 #43
I have an open account at Mr S, and was a BDSM model twice mwrguy Nov 2013 #38
What's Mr. S? RainDog Nov 2013 #41
Store in SF that sells leather and BDSM toys mwrguy Nov 2013 #44
I've seen a good amount of porn both personally and educationally. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #42
IMHO sex should be interested in love or at least lust otherwise it's like watching jello…. Tikki Nov 2013 #54
Is any porn not interested in lust? RainDog Nov 2013 #55
The viewers might be lusting…the actors, I doubt it... Tikki Nov 2013 #56
well, it's acting, right? RainDog Nov 2013 #57
I am sorry…I have never seen porn where someone was in love…maybe it has changed, I watched a... Tikki Nov 2013 #58
I was talking about another genre: romance RainDog Nov 2013 #61
I like a good romance..I'll sit in a crowded theatre and cry, cheer or sigh. Tikki Nov 2013 #62
I'm not a big fan of romance or rom-coms RainDog Nov 2013 #63
Always someone overcoming a trial in their life and finding someone who champions that victory. Tikki Nov 2013 #64
thanks for the recommendations RainDog Nov 2013 #78
"50 Shades of Grey" as read by... Ben Stein. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #70
I view porn regularly. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #65
What is p0rn? grahamhgreen Nov 2013 #66
Depends on how broadly you define "in the industry" Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #67
I once took a job interview for one of America's largest online porn video sites ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #71
Everyone knows that #4 is the pinnacle of the series. Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #72
I compare it to the Bourne Series, actually.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #73
You mean you didn't like The Boring Ultimatum? Warren DeMontague Nov 2013 #74
Nope, and yet for some reason I watched The Boring Legacy ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2013 #75
yeah RainDog Nov 2013 #80
I have some friends on the fringes of the gay porn industry Kurska Nov 2013 #76
I write porn Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #77
so, what are sales like in the ebook end of things? RainDog Nov 2013 #82
Depends on the genre Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #123
The "within the boundaries of consent" is the issue gollygee Nov 2013 #79
I didn't follow that discussion RainDog Nov 2013 #81
the "some porn" that i have watched Scout Nov 2013 #83
that's about where I'm at RainDog Nov 2013 #101
My porn name is Smoky Ivanhoe. Nuff said. Vattel Nov 2013 #89
Nice to meet you Smoky. HappyMe Nov 2013 #95
NTMU. Was Shadow a dog or a cat? Vattel Nov 2013 #97
A dog. HappyMe Nov 2013 #98
Smoky was a grey cat. Vattel Nov 2013 #99
whooooooosh RainDog Nov 2013 #96
Come on Raindog. Vattel Nov 2013 #100
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Nov 2013 #102
ROFL. Thistlewood sounds like it hurts. But, hey, S & M is a color of the rainbow too. Vattel Nov 2013 #104
I know. too bad I didn't live on Luscious street... lol n/t RainDog Nov 2013 #105
Porn, you are talking about war movies? B Calm Nov 2013 #91
nah RainDog Nov 2013 #103
I currently work in the industry HappyinLA Nov 2013 #106
welcome to du RainDog Nov 2013 #109
Porn has been part of my life since I was 13 or so.... Bennyboy Nov 2013 #107
interesting RainDog Nov 2013 #112
I adore this thread. OneGrassRoot Nov 2013 #115
love to you RainDog Nov 2013 #116
well, Bennyboy Nov 2013 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Nov 2013 #122
Thank you for such an honest post! PassingFair Nov 2013 #121
Sure! However, "What turns me on is erotic; what turns you on is pornographic." Ellen Willis n/t retread Nov 2013 #113
It was my understanding she coined the phrase RainDog Nov 2013 #119
I avoid it if I see it. I have no voyeuristic tendencies. PassingFair Nov 2013 #114
my one concern is boredom RainDog Nov 2013 #117
Not a concern for me....so far. PassingFair Nov 2013 #118
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