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BainsBane

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79. I misunderstood an earlier point you made

Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:32 PM

Nov 2013

Thus the cross communication.

The argument that something does not affect behavior because it is "fiction" does not hold water. 1) Porn is not billed as fiction. It is advertised as real and can also be real. 2) If fiction were so irrelevant to our lives and had so little influence, why would we read literature? Why would play writes and poets write? Clearly, art has an impact on the human imagination. You seem to think news does, yet have decided porn is somehow immune. It makes no sense. Whatever one spends a significant amount of time watching or doing is going to influence how they see the world.

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It turns out Fox really isn't a danger to American political life [View all] BainsBane Nov 2013 OP

yea. so i do not have to PARENT any more and kids could do, watch, expeirence whatever the fuck seabeyond Nov 2013 #1

Still waiting for others to concur BainsBane Nov 2013 #2

see... ya. that. surely there is a GLARING difference. surely. oh ya.... cause. lol nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #3

well. let see. i guess then religion has no influence? nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #4

I'd be interested in hearing perspectives of how some thing rape porn and religion are different BainsBane Nov 2013 #5

ha ha. and i was going to say, has to be in changing a definition like we do with rape and violence seabeyond Nov 2013 #9

The bible is fiction too rrneck Nov 2013 #16

I guess it depends what kind of a literalist you are. rrneck Nov 2013 #6

So where does this put gollygee Nov 2013 #7

In the same place as any other fiction rrneck Nov 2013 #11

It is intended to reproduce in these cases gollygee Nov 2013 #17

Why would that be a selling point? rrneck Nov 2013 #22

they can get off on what they THINK is real rape but they shouldnt get off on REAL rape? seabeyond Nov 2013 #25

Yes, I believe that is what he is saying. EOTE Nov 2013 #65

It is being called actual rape gollygee Nov 2013 #38

Yes, it's a fact. rrneck Nov 2013 #45

If it shows someone getting raped gollygee Nov 2013 #48

Is the sticker certification or advertising? rrneck Nov 2013 #50

It is an admission of guilt. gollygee Nov 2013 #53

Then the trial will not be lengthy. ntt rrneck Nov 2013 #63

This'll really bake your noodle... rrneck Nov 2013 #64

So you're saying that Fox News is fiction xulamaude Nov 2013 #19

The bulk of it, yes. rrneck Nov 2013 #26

I agree that it is pretty fantastical but xulamaude Nov 2013 #30

True that, and it's a damn shame. rrneck Nov 2013 #33

My point is this though: xulamaude Nov 2013 #41

Stupid ain't illegal. rrneck Nov 2013 #43

people are not talking about legality. that is not the issue we are addressing. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #46

You're addressing your umbrage. rrneck Nov 2013 #47

no. i am staying on point calling out strawman. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #49

What do you want? nt rrneck Nov 2013 #51

world peace? seabeyond Nov 2013 #52

Me too. ntt rrneck Nov 2013 #59

really what i want is poeple to be honest about ti and not pretend that this garbage has no effect seabeyond Nov 2013 #56

That's understandable. rrneck Nov 2013 #58

What issue are you addressing? rrneck Nov 2013 #62

Not yet anyway. xulamaude Nov 2013 #54

Backatcha. rrneck Nov 2013 #60

Except the pornographers claim it is real BainsBane Nov 2013 #8

There is an implicit claim of reality in all fiction. rrneck Nov 2013 #12

so a man believing it is rape and getting off on what he thinks is rape, but rape victims seabeyond Nov 2013 #18

Not only that but rrneck stated upthread xulamaude Nov 2013 #21

i know.... such a twisting all over the place to make it fucking work. and it doesnt. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #23

Sure rrneck Nov 2013 #28

I sure am. Very, very much so xulamaude Nov 2013 #34

They can be bothered, rrneck Nov 2013 #24

i am not talking legislation. nor is baine. it is the validation on getting off on what a man thinks seabeyond Nov 2013 #27

Wiggle out of what? rrneck Nov 2013 #31

emotional? i would say i am a hell of a lot more pragmatic about it than you appear to be. seabeyond Nov 2013 #32

"fuckin for real" rrneck Nov 2013 #36

then you would love my post about redefining violence in order to swallow the violence. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #40

I might if you'd post a link. nt rrneck Nov 2013 #44

and it will have an effect on a man just as fox, just as any of the other crap we threw up, that is seabeyond Nov 2013 #29

I'll let you in on a little secret... rrneck Nov 2013 #35

clue in, dude. i am not the one that denies the obvious. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #37

That is nonsensical BainsBane Nov 2013 #70

That is nonsensical rrneck Nov 2013 #76

Some pornography chronicles real rape BainsBane Nov 2013 #77

And some food is tainted with salmonella. rrneck Nov 2013 #78

I misunderstood an earlier point you made BainsBane Nov 2013 #79

That's cool. rrneck Nov 2013 #80

Glad that's settled lame54 Nov 2013 #10

Also, businesses can save millions and millions of dollars that they've been wasting on tblue37 Nov 2013 #13

Excellent point BainsBane Nov 2013 #14

oh, damn. i always bring up the ads. ya. that. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #20

What consumers of rape porn? DUers? Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #15

Yes, have you missed the recent BainsBane Nov 2013 #55

If it's not too windy so I don't have to continually dick around with the smoker snooper2 Nov 2013 #39

This has actually been proven to be true, ZombieHorde Nov 2013 #42

in a society where men are harolded as all that and their sexual premise is gold, seabeyond Nov 2013 #57

Here's my view on the parallel BainsBane Nov 2013 #75

False analogy, rape porn is not lying, rape porn is real and happens it is not a farce. Rex Nov 2013 #61

Only many have insisted rape porn is fantasy BainsBane Nov 2013 #66

Well as I said in another thread, anyone that has a rape porn fetish Rex Nov 2013 #67

Oh, I agree BainsBane Nov 2013 #68

Same reason the Church turns a blind eye to their rape problem. Rex Nov 2013 #69

We need more like you in the world, Rex. BainsBane Nov 2013 #72

Thanks! Rex Nov 2013 #73

You might have noticed BainsBane Nov 2013 #74

It also means all the hue and cry about the 60 minutes piece on Benghazi BainsBane Nov 2013 #71