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kentuck

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Fri Nov 29, 2013, 05:08 PM Nov 2013

Which do you trust the most: the "government" or the "market"? [View all]

The conservative argument is always for "smaller government" and the magic of the "marketplace".

Liberals tend to argue for government solutions to problems in our society.

For many conservatives, government cannot be too small. For many liberals, government cannot be too big.

The reality is that both are likely wrong on that count. Government can be too big and government can be too small. The best argument is for the government that is needed. If it is not needed, it is too big. If it needed and not supported, it is too small.

But the idea is for government to do what people cannot accomplish as individuals, whether it be fixing our roads and bridges or providing healthcare that is needed for our citizens.

The idea that the "marketplace" will take care of all these needs is misguided and cruel. The "free market" is based on winners and losers and is based on the profit motive. It is not possible to fulfill the needs of the people thru a "free market". Only the "government" can do that.

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For all its flaws, I have a hand in determining the operation of the government Scootaloo Nov 2013 #1
Aren't they the same thing now? nt valerief Nov 2013 #2
You nailed it. (n/t) spin Nov 2013 #27
Both need checks and balances, and separation of powers. JHB Nov 2013 #3
Well, you said trust, and I do not trust the government in most intances. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #4
I agree. kentuck Nov 2013 #7
Well arlight. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #9
We need the government to protect Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2013 #5
That's why we need to keep them separate, like the church and state. Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #10
Interesting perspective. kentuck Nov 2013 #12
Wal-Mart, for all its ills, Nuclear Unicorn Nov 2013 #6
The market doesn't know how to manage the commons without government on point Nov 2013 #8
Are they different? ananda Nov 2013 #11
You can't trust either under capitalism..... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #13
Isn't that somewhat of a False Dichotomy? Captain Stern Nov 2013 #14
I disagree. kentuck Nov 2013 #15
Why not? Captain Stern Nov 2013 #18
Do you mean something like crop subsidies? kentuck Nov 2013 #20
I wasn't thinking of crop subsides in particular. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #34
Neither. Why should I? nt bemildred Nov 2013 #16
I believe in people - TBF Nov 2013 #17
Which government? What market? FarCenter Nov 2013 #19
Republicans are "market" people. kentuck Nov 2013 #22
Municipality runs a competent garbage collection and the US market for No 2 yellow corn seems OK. FarCenter Nov 2013 #33
the government, because we all get one vote treestar Nov 2013 #21
That's like asking "shit" or "go blind" REP Nov 2013 #23
Does that mean you dislike them both equally?? kentuck Nov 2013 #24
Neither sounds like a great choice REP Nov 2013 #28
I just watched 'the market' feed thousands yesterday. maced666 Nov 2013 #25
Was it the market or was it the people? kentuck Nov 2013 #30
A tricky question in a world where the distinction has become meaningless. nt Democracyinkind Nov 2013 #26
There's a difference? nt LWolf Nov 2013 #29
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2013 #31
Chomsky calls the players in the market "tiny tyrannies". Antidemocratic forces. I believe in Ed Suspicious Nov 2013 #32
Ah yes, the "free hand" .... Scuba Nov 2013 #35
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