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In reply to the discussion: Yep... They Killed Him... [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)147. FBI work for you?
Apart form all the corruption I mean, they do keep paper records:
Which is what GHWB told the FBI when dropping a dime on a suspect an hour afterward. Larry Sabato did not bring this up when talking about JFK the other day, for some reason.

Things have pretty much gone the warmongers' way ever since: "Money trumps peace."
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3669640

Date: November 29, 1963
To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State
From: John Edgar Hoover, Director
Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963
Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.
Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.
An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.
The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.
# # #
What's a real coincidence is how the CIA failed to tell the FBI and the Warren Commission that it was involved in plots with the Mafia to murder Fidel Castro -- even after being ordered to stop by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3669640
A few more examples:
And those who believe "Them" in the secret government who hold onto metadata and the rest of the inside knowledge and secrets are all good patriots, remember what the national security state has done for We the People lately: Kept the secrets that most benefit them -- the warmonger have-mores -- and most penalized the 99-percent We the People of democracy.
That secret government is at the heart of the rot that is modern America. The management of that same secret government, after being ordered to stop trying to kill Castro, failed to tell President Kennedy about ZR/RIFLE. Then, they didn't tell the Warren Commission they hadn't told him. Later, when asked by Congress, they also lied.
That same secret national security leadership would later tell President Johnson that North Vietnam attacked our destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, later bug the Watergate on behalf of CREEP, later meet with the Ayatollah's people to extend the hostage ordeal in Iran, tell Ronald Pruneface that trading arms for hostages and sending the profits to go around Congress in Central America was a good idea, got paid big time by petrodollars at BCCI and big bucks from Rev Moon, would help loot the S&Ls and later the entire banking system, and made war on Iraq and Afghanistan and other nations that had zero to do with September 11.
Odd, that long string of unconstitutionality by the people running the cia and nsa and all the rest of the secret alphabet soup in the the secret government. Going from their actions, the actions of the national security state are treasonous as they only serve to benefit themselves -- the friends of the Dulles Brothers, Harrimans, Rockefellers, the Have-Mores -- at the expense of everyone else, the BFEE. And while it didn't start there, what we live in today was made possible by what went on down there in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963.
That specific enough, Riftaxe?
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No. I mean those are only SOME lies only fools would claim our govt would never tell.
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#29
So you're a Denier who refuses to look at the evidence that is continuing to emerge with each
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#80
And every fucking one of those lies has been exposed. But one of the single most cataclysmic ...
11 Bravo
Nov 2013
#118
You might listen to Guns and Butter on KPFA. It played today and will be available for 2 weeks
AnotherDreamWeaver
Nov 2013
#32
You haven't had time to listen to an hour show. You don't care to hear what may change your mind.
AnotherDreamWeaver
Nov 2013
#43
Listen to the Guns and Butter show and hear it all yourself, I'm done responding to you.
AnotherDreamWeaver
Nov 2013
#54
Witness saw a man with a rifle and gave a description that fit Oswald.
Spider Jerusalem
Nov 2013
#99
The easy answer is "the CIA manipulated the evidence". Thats all anyone who disagrees will say.
7962
Nov 2013
#38
Let's assume that Oswald killed Kennedy. It's been 50 years, and they have established
JDPriestly
Nov 2013
#114
The original story Ive heard was that the family didnt want it released for 75 yrs i think
7962
Nov 2013
#117
"those more powerful than the POTUS. Guess what? They're still here running things."
Thirties Child
Nov 2013
#131
Yes, he's dead. Another amazing coincidence, and no he can't tell us. Maybe that's why he's dead.
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#88
well his nephew is no authority on anything, you know, not like that stellar human Arlen Specter
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2013
#11
Are you equating venomous lies about Jews ("Protocols of Zion") with the facts of Communist
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#25
And Kennedy's dad was a Nazi sympathizer too! So that ties it all up nicely doesnt it?
7962
Nov 2013
#50
Start with the "What". You get that right, and the "they" becomes a lot more clear.
BlueStreak
Nov 2013
#127
Actually, according to my count of the CT theories, everybody in the world wanted JFK dead.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#35
in the linked articles "they" is the CIA/mafia coalition that was going to kill Castro --
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#148
Saw and heard him individually and with panel at Duquesne University conference...
MrMickeysMom
Nov 2013
#71
Because they KNOW it was CIA/KGB/CCCP/Cuba/FBI/LBJ/Allen Dulles/Castro/Secret Service/Mafia/Big Foot
longship
Nov 2013
#84
The evidence alone put me on the fence. The bullying tone taken by those who insist there was no
Jetboy
Nov 2013
#101
If you don't see bullying tones and ridicule from both sides of this issue
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#104
But it's the quality of the conspiracy theorists' bullying and slander that you should note.
Bolo Boffin
Nov 2013
#111