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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
147. FBI work for you?
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:48 AM
Nov 2013

Apart form all the corruption I mean, they do keep paper records:

Which is what GHWB told the FBI when dropping a dime on a suspect an hour afterward. Larry Sabato did not bring this up when talking about JFK the other day, for some reason.



Things have pretty much gone the warmongers' way ever since: "Money trumps peace."

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3669640





Date: November 29, 1963

To: Director
Bureau of Intelligence and Research
Department of State

From: John Edgar Hoover, Director

Subject: ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY
NOVEMBER 22, 1963


Our Miami, Florida, Office on November 23, 1963, advised that the Office of Coordinator of Cuban Affairs in Miami advised that the Department of State feels some misguided anti-Castro group might capitalize on the present situation and undertake an unauthorized raid against Cuba, believing that the assassination of President John F. Kennedy might herald a change in U. S. policy, which is not true.

Our sources and informants familiar with Cuban matters in the Miami area advise that the general feeling in the anti-Castro Cuban community is one of stunned disbelief and, even among those who did not entirely agree with the President's policy concerning Cuba, the feeling is that the President's death represents a great loss not only to the U. S. but to all of Latin America. These sources know of no plans for unauthorized action against Cuba.

An informant who has furnished reliable information in the past and who is close to a small pro-Castro group in Miami has advised that these individuals are afraid that the assassination of the President may result in strong repressive measures being taken against them and, although pro-Castro in their feelings, regret the assassination.

The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency on November 23, 1963, by Mr. W. T. Forsyth of this Bureau.

# # #



What's a real coincidence is how the CIA failed to tell the FBI and the Warren Commission that it was involved in plots with the Mafia to murder Fidel Castro -- even after being ordered to stop by Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy.

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3669640

A few more examples:

And those who believe "Them" in the secret government who hold onto metadata and the rest of the inside knowledge and secrets are all good patriots, remember what the national security state has done for We the People lately: Kept the secrets that most benefit them -- the warmonger have-mores -- and most penalized the 99-percent We the People of democracy.

That secret government is at the heart of the rot that is modern America. The management of that same secret government, after being ordered to stop trying to kill Castro, failed to tell President Kennedy about ZR/RIFLE. Then, they didn't tell the Warren Commission they hadn't told him. Later, when asked by Congress, they also lied.

That same secret national security leadership would later tell President Johnson that North Vietnam attacked our destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, later bug the Watergate on behalf of CREEP, later meet with the Ayatollah's people to extend the hostage ordeal in Iran, tell Ronald Pruneface that trading arms for hostages and sending the profits to go around Congress in Central America was a good idea, got paid big time by petrodollars at BCCI and big bucks from Rev Moon, would help loot the S&Ls and later the entire banking system, and made war on Iraq and Afghanistan and other nations that had zero to do with September 11.

Odd, that long string of unconstitutionality by the people running the cia and nsa and all the rest of the secret alphabet soup in the the secret government. Going from their actions, the actions of the national security state are treasonous as they only serve to benefit themselves -- the friends of the Dulles Brothers, Harrimans, Rockefellers, the Have-Mores -- at the expense of everyone else, the BFEE. And while it didn't start there, what we live in today was made possible by what went on down there in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963.

That specific enough, Riftaxe?


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And Yeah... It Does Matter... 50 Years Later... WillyT Nov 2013 #1
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Says You... WillyT Nov 2013 #3
Says all the evidence. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #5
Gulf of Tonkin. Iraq's WMD's. NSA. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #22
You mean those are the things that killed JFK? stopbush Nov 2013 #26
No. I mean those are only SOME lies only fools would claim our govt would never tell. WinkyDink Nov 2013 #29
So, you're a closed-minded CT denier. stopbush Nov 2013 #41
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Would that include the evidence that JFK was shot by his limo driver? stopbush Nov 2013 #121
...or the Secret Service guy with the AR-15? lastlib Dec 2013 #152
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I've heard it all before. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #45
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Most murder suspects deny they did it. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2013 #82
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well his nephew is no authority on anything, you know, not like that stellar human Arlen Specter Warren Stupidity Nov 2013 #11
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Sorry... Not Too Clever...Or Funny... WillyT Nov 2013 #8
Happy Thanksgiving to you, too. longship Nov 2013 #9
WillyT, you ever get the impression whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #13
Yup, We're all part of the conspiracy too! FSogol Nov 2013 #16
Not part of any particular conspiracy whatchamacallit Nov 2013 #19
a Pavlovian response to anything that challenges the status quo. AlbertCat Nov 2013 #37
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You need to keep up. The Midway Rebel Nov 2013 #110
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Oh Yeah... A Looooooong Time Ago... WillyT Nov 2013 #18
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yes alato Nov 2013 #96
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in the linked articles "they" is the CIA/mafia coalition that was going to kill Castro -- KurtNYC Nov 2013 #148
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K&R DeSwiss Nov 2013 #42
Yes they did! All three of them! Ian_rd Nov 2013 #47
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It was HE who killed THEM. Period. duffyduff Nov 2013 #62
Saw and heard him individually and with panel at Duquesne University conference... MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #71
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K&R, WillyT MrMickeysMom Nov 2013 #73
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And Who Would Be Better Equipped To Hide It, Than The MIC... Bigfoot ??? WillyT Nov 2013 #91
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... SidDithers Nov 2013 #107
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One of their names to remember: BUSH. Octafish Nov 2013 #132
I suppose it would be too much to ask Riftaxe Nov 2013 #141
FBI work for you? Octafish Nov 2013 #147
Worked for the WC Riftaxe Dec 2013 #150
I didn't think it would. Octafish Dec 2013 #153
I wonder which side is really the "conspiracy theorist"?? kentuck Nov 2013 #133
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KNR leveymg Dec 2013 #151
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